CSBill Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Should the Bills offence look like it has looked, and the even worse Defense continues to show it can't carry the team either ...... Provided he is fully healthy, is it time to throw Cardale Jones out there for the rest of the season to see what the Bills have in him (after 0-5, 0-6) ????? Reasoning: If the record is going to put us in the top five of the draft, there will be tremendous pressure to draft a QB higher than unidentified QB should be drafted. If Cardale proves capable, it would take that pressure off. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 No. It's too soon because he's not NFL ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 No. It's too soon because he's not NFL ready. Is Tyrod Taylor NFL ready? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Is Tyrod Taylor NFL ready? More ready than Cardale and they are not going to give up on the season just two games in. There's no justifying Cardale at this juncture of the season no matter how hard one might try. Ain't gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Theres no reason to. Give Tyrod all season to play. They have to know beyond a reasonable doubt whether to cut him this offseason or not. Huge money is at stake next year for him and so far, hes flatlined. We dont need a 25 million dollar placeholder while we look for another QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) At 0-4 I'd say it's time to start thinking about blowing it up and tanking so yes, maybe. I would be surprised if Tyrod makes it through 16 game anyways. Edited September 24, 2016 by bmur66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Theres no reason to. Give Tyrod all season to play. They have to know beyond a reasonable doubt whether to cut him this offseason or not. Huge money is at stake next year for him and so far, hes flatlined. We dont need a 25 million dollar placeholder while we look for another QB. Good point and a very important consideration to the team moving forward. They need to have a definitive answer on Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 After we lose to the pats and go O fer then why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Only after the Bills are eliminated from playoff contention. The season is far from over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 some garbage time reps wouldn't hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 If they think that there is any chance that Jones could develop into a good NFL QB, then they should not play him this year.- he isn't ready and that could destroy his confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 If the Pats can play Edelman at QB, why can't we put Cardale in there? Oh, because Edelman will look better than Cardale..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 If they think that there is any chance that Jones could develop into a good NFL QB, then they should not play him this year.- he isn't ready and that could destroy his confidence. They need to see if he can be the answer, which will dictate whether they let TT walk and/or draft a QB early next year. If the Pats can play Edelman at QB, why can't we put Cardale in there? Oh, because Edelman will look better than Cardale..... No it's because they apparently can plug any QB into their system and still win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Theres no reason to. Give Tyrod all season to play. They have to know beyond a reasonable doubt whether to cut him this offseason or not. Huge money is at stake next year for him and so far, hes flatlined. We dont need a 25 million dollar placeholder while we look for another QB. At this juncture, right now as it sits, I don't not think the Bills are going to give TT the $$$. He would need to be so good over the remaining 14 games for them to even consider it IMO. Him being the elite of the elite isn't going to come close to happening so if they go 0-4 why not a new direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 some garbage time reps wouldn't hurt so you're saying start him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 At this juncture, right now as it sits, I don't not think the Bills are going to give TT the $$$. He would need to be so good over the remaining 14 games for them to even consider it IMO. Him being the elite of the elite isn't going to come close to happening so if they go 0-4 why not a new direction. Because Dareus comes back after game 4. With Dareus playing against the Jets, they likely win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 At this juncture, right now as it sits, I don't not think the Bills are going to give TT the $$$. He would need to be so good over the remaining 14 games for them to even consider it IMO. Him being the elite of the elite isn't going to come close to happening so if they go 0-4 why not a new direction. If they put Cardale in there it won't be a "new direction". It'll be the same direction with a steeper downward slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterthegator Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) There are two options to make the Bills better on this board. 1. Find a new QB after 2 games. 2. Fire a coach or front office suit. Although I am entering into the fire Rex camp, can we let a QB who has shown some signs of brilliance try to develop? I'd like to see McCoy be McCoy. McCoy certainly has skated on being incredibly pedestrian. Edited September 24, 2016 by taterthegator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I miss the days before the Internet when I was blind to how many idiots masquerade as Bills fans. Tyrod Taylor made the Pro Bowl last year and after 2 games you are willing to cast him off in favor of a QB who never played in a regular season game and only played vs backups in pre season. I understand someone will counter with Taylor was a Pro Bowl Alternate. Nevertheless he is the first Bills QB to be selected to the Pro Bowl this century. You would think he would be given more than 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) There are two options to make the Bills better on this board. 1. Find a new QB after 2 games. 2. Fire a coach or front office suit. Although I am entering into the fire Rex camp, can we let a QB who has shown some signs of brilliance try to develop? I'd like to see McCoy be McCoy. McCoy certainly has skated on being incredibly pedestrian. 31 carries through 2 games for 117 yards ? Needs more carries, might happen once we can extend drives with a real Qb. Yes put in Cardale or Ej. Converting 3rd and short will be nice. Edited September 24, 2016 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Let's see how Tyrod does with a simplified offense that allows more time to assess the defense. Why dump a guy 2 games in that just signed a new contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I miss the days before the Internet when I was blind to how many idiots masquerade as Bills fans. Tyrod Taylor made the Pro Bowl last year and after 2 games you are willing to cast him off in favor of a QB who never played in a regular season game and only played vs backups in pre season. I understand someone will counter with Taylor was a Pro Bowl Alternate. Nevertheless he is the first Bills QB to be selected to the Pro Bowl this century. You would think he would be given more than 2 games. He's been given more than 2 games. I have yet to see a game winning 4th quarter drive and/or an efficient 2 minute offense. That may not be his fault but we will see soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Should the Bills offence look like it has looked, and the even worse Defense continues to show it can't carry the team either ...... Provided he is fully healthy, is it time to throw Cardale Jones out there for the rest of the season to see what the Bills have in him (after 0-5, 0-6) ????? Reasoning: If the record is going to put us in the top five of the draft, there will be tremendous pressure to draft a QB higher than unidentified QB should be drafted. If Cardale proves capable, it would take that pressure off. Thoughts? No. They saw him play in preseason. It was quite obvious that Cardale is not anywhere close to being ready to start for any NFL team. Plus, like other people said here, you have to see as much Tyrod as you can before you make the decision to part ways with him or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I miss the days before the Internet when I was blind to how many idiots masquerade as Bills fans. Tyrod Taylor made the Pro Bowl last year and after 2 games you are willing to cast him off in favor of a QB who never played in a regular season game and only played vs backups in pre season. I understand someone will counter with Taylor was a Pro Bowl Alternate. Nevertheless he is the first Bills QB to be selected to the Pro Bowl this century. You would think he would be given more than 2 games. I love this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 He's been given more than 2 games. I have yet to see a game winning 4th quarter drive and/or an efficient 2 minute offense. That may not be his fault but we will see soon. Yes he has been given more than 2 games.. During that time he has shown enough to be selected to the pro bowl which no other Bills QB has done since 1999. But you know better than those making the selection. I am beginning to think many on the Anti Tyrod camp would always be in the Anti Tyrod camp regardless of what he stats or wins he puts up.. Not saying this is you but just an observation based upon some of the stuff I am reading on other threads that is not football related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 so you're saying start him? Very Funny post ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 so you're saying start him? Made me Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 If they know through like 6 games that he looks worse and worse, I say they just throw EJ in and get final final answers on both of these guys. Do not let Cardale anywhere near the field until MAYBE the last game or two. If by chance the kid has anything, he can not be thrown to the wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Should the Bills offence look like it has looked, and the even worse Defense continues to show it can't carry the team either ...... Provided he is fully healthy, is it time to throw Cardale Jones out there for the rest of the season to see what the Bills have in him (after 0-5, 0-6) ????? Reasoning: If the record is going to put us in the top five of the draft, there will be tremendous pressure to draft a QB higher than unidentified QB should be drafted. If Cardale proves capable, it would take that pressure off. Thoughts? He won't play after a couple of games, but I'd love for him to play after 5 or 6 and this thing has blossomed into a full blown tire fire. Cardale would help the tank immensely. We are already playing for a draft pick this year; soon enough everyone will realize this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commish Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 If they think that there is any chance that Jones could develop into a good NFL QB, then they should not play him this year.- he isn't ready and that could destroy his confidence. Actually, I think Cardale's confidence is bullet-proof - def. a strong point and valuable commodity for an NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Actually, I think Cardale's confidence is bullet-proof - def. a strong point and valuable commodity for an NFL QB.word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Actually, I think Cardale's confidence is bullet-proof - def. a strong point and valuable commodity for an NFL QB.Yeah, I think the "Playing early on a bad team will shatter his confidence" argument is nonsense. Almost any QB picked in the top 3 is going to start right away for a bad team. If that's going to destroy a guy, then he probably was never going to be any good anyway. And Cardale didn't look bad at all in preseason. He had one very good game, one mediocre one, and one not so good, all playing behind the second and third team O-line and throwing to now-unemployed receivers. If this team is 2-6 at the bye, I would run him out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 This is Tyrod's opportunity to show the football world just what he has got to offer. And given the way his contract situation is structured that is simply the way it has got to be in the best interests of theteam andthe player. I can't foresee starting Cardaleunless things go so far south that its apparent Tyrod is not the answer. If that happens it would be late in the season and after the Bills have been eliminated from the post season. However if that is where we wind up (or in the event Tyrod goes down) I would seriously consider starting Cardale (ahead of EJ). I don't think getting some live reps is going to destroy his confidence. He looks to be a very confident young man. Dak Prescott is doing quite well thank you, as is Carson Wentz. And especially if Tyrod craps out the onus will be on the Bills to start finding out fast exactly what they have in Cardale. Frankly, so far this year he is the only one of the three who looks anything like an NFL quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) Is Tyrod Taylor NFL ready? This is why we can't have nice things (or don't deserve nice things, or something banal like that). Seriously, we constantly whine for this QB who will save us, but when a QB comes along who in his first season's worth of games has 23 tds, 7 ints, and nearly 600 rushing yards, we're ready to throw him to the curb for the next thing b/c of two games -- one of which wasn't all that terrible and included two accurately thrown scores of over 70 yards. Edited September 24, 2016 by thurst44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) FEAR. -Fear the risk won't pay off.... Fear that he'll outperform the veteran backup, they've pinned their hopes to... Fear that his natural instincts may be better that Dave Lee's PATHETIC instruction... Fear they'll be exposed as idiots for not starting him sooner.. Soon the decision may be taken from them. Edited September 24, 2016 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) I think you have to give Tyrod the entire year. If a change at QB is absolutely necessary then put in Cardale. I never want to see EJ start another game for this team. We already know there is no upside with him. Edited September 24, 2016 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Im hoping the Offense takes the greatest leap it has in 17 years and D stays the same and they fire the Rex's.....Hey, a man can hope right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Im hoping the Offense takes the greatest leap it has in 17 years and D stays the same and they fire the Rex's.....Hey, a man can hope right? You're rooting against the Bills' success. Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 You're rooting against the Bills' success. Good job! Define "Bills' success." 6-10 success? Why not look at the whole forest instead of the tree in front of your face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Only after the Bills are eliminated from playoff contention. The season is far from over. Okay, then wait until after the Patriot game. Then the season will be over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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