FutureBillsGM Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Mark Asper promoted from PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Damn you Marrone!!! I was looking forward to Brown shattering the record for all time worst grade in a season by PFF...woukd have been an untouchable record....oh well, lol I think he already has.... in only 6 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 You seriously don't think they thought that through? Was it my lead in saying "I know I don't have the whole story" that made you think that? There is an argument to be made for "making an example" of non-performers, but more likely, they saw something from McClain and validated Legursky also looked better than Brown. I forgot they brought on McClain, which is most of what I was missing. I think watching him for a week in practice is still a flimsy basis for releasing Brown. The Bills promoted OL Mark Asper to the Active Roster and released OL Colin Brown in a flurry of roster moves on Tuesday http://www.buffalobills.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Anyone have any info on Chris Hairston's status? Still circling the practice field at St. John Fisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhIDunno Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Also signed OL Bryant Browning to PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 3 pages dedicated to the worst OL in the NFL? Let's see if he can surpass the Shawn Powell thread that was dedicated to the release of the worst punter in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Looks like Bills app update is now wonky. I was just notified that Flynn was signed and Meeks went on designated IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beebes Bubble Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Ouch Thomas Welch is the swing tackle right now.....scary times folks......Anyone have any info on Chris Hairston's status? I'm guessing the hip could be career threatening if it is still giving him trouble..... Hairston was placed on the Reserve/Non-Football Illness list before the season and was done for the year at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Brown was over his head and Marrone (former NFL O Lineman) should have seen that early. The Bills should have been gleaning the street free agent and veteran unsigned free agent lists for a replacement. I will not be surprised that the bring in a sign another guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'm shocked people are calling it a mistake for releasing him after most of the people here have been ripping on how horrible he's been in every game he's played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 and this is why I love this HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Jesus. Marrone don't play. That's exactly what I was thinking...The message is pretty clear... Mark Asper promoted from PS He took the long route through Minnesota and J-Ville to get there...But congrats to Asper for finally making that Draft pick pay off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 He has graded out as the worst OL in the league. No reason to keep him around. I think he actually graded out as the worst player in the league. They were just waiting on Legursky to give him the heave ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Mark Asper promoted from PS I have been wondering if he would end up on the roster... Can't be any worse then Brown.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 My first thought was the Langston Walker situation, when they needlessly expelled depth because they didn't want to overpay for a veteran who wasn't going to start. But then I realized it's Colin freakin' Brown we're talking about. He's the definition of a replacement-level player. You could sign a guy off of the street who would be no worse than him. And it sounds like they have, and his name is Mark Asper (ironically enough, a guy they drafted and cut before the season a few years back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'm shocked people are calling it a mistake for releasing him after most of the people here have been ripping on how horrible he's been in every game he's played. Same people that were saying it was a bad move to make Rogers inactive and play Gilmore with a cast. Apparently, coaches thought Gilmore with one hand>Rogers with two hands when it comes to coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 about dang time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Justin Rogers was just spotted attempting to purchase a pitchfork-proof uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Releasing Brown had to happen. When your backup is the worst Guard in the league, then you have no backup. Why not try someone else for depth, if they end up being the worst in the league, then its a lateral move at least. If they end up being the second worst, its an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Seriously. People are upset I question the move? We didn't address LG in the off season. We did not do anything in regard to LG until this? He knows the playbook and he has played some. Chemistry on the OL is hard to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Seriously. People are upset I question the move? We didn't address LG in the off season. We did not do anything in regard to LG until this? He knows the playbook and he has played some. Chemistry on the OL is hard to explain. You're completely avoiding the fact that he is AWFUL. Literally ANY street free agent is better than him. Legursky proved to be much better than him and they have McClain and Asper now up. Both those are better options than Colin "I suck at football" Brown. Seriously, this is the definition of "no-brainer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All I Need is Hope Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I remember Nix on the John Murphy show awhile back, explaining why they let Levitre and Reinhart leave... something to the effect that they had several "good" players that will step up. This was before Legursky was even signed. Not a specific dig on Nix, just funny I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Justin Rogers was just spotted attempting to purchase a pitchfork-proof uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 You're completely avoiding the fact that he is AWFUL. Literally ANY street free agent is better than him. Legursky proved to be much better than him and they have McClain and Asper now up. Both those are better options than Colin "I suck at football" Brown. Seriously, this is the definition of "no-brainer". a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I applaud and love the message Marrone is sending. If you want to be here you better be working hard and improving weekly. Nobody is safe from the surgeons scalpel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinMychal Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Why? What's the point? What is our better option? This is a stupid move. some people make it so obvious how little they know about football outside of big play QBs and big hit defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 It's refreshing to see non-performers held accountable. Darcy Regier would have given him a contract extension. This... Marrone gives guys a shot but understands once you make a decision a guy is not good enough you move on. I see him only keeping guys around that are either worthy starters or that he can develop into worthy starters. He really seems to have no interest in retaining career "depth" players or guys that plateau as second rate.... I embrace the approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I love how this staff isn't afraid to dump crappy players when they continue to suck week after week (first Shaun Powell and now Colin Brown). There are literally hundreds of free agents sitting at home. You might as well give someone a chance. It's unlikely anyone could play worse than Brown was through 6 games. He doesn't need to be on our roster. Period. Not every street free agent is worthless. Brian Moorman was unemployed. In one game, he proved that he's a much better option than Powell. For way too long, the Bills have been content to keep mediocre talents in starting positions and terrible players sitting on the bench. Once a guy proves he doesn't have what it takes, cut them. A real front office should be doing everything in their power to roster the best 52 players possible. I have a feeling that Justin Rogers isn't far behind once we get some players like Stephon Gilmore and Ron Brooks healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthtobrint Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I can't believe how many people are praising Marrone/Whaley for cutting Colin Brown. Releasing a truly terrible player, the worst offensive linemen in the league no less, shouldn't be praiseworthy. That's something that any team would do. What we all should be doing is condemning the fact that they chose to enter this season with Colin Brown as our team's starting left guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Releasing Brown had to happen. When your backup is the worst Guard in the league, then you have no backup. Why not try someone else for depth, if they end up being the worst in the league, then its a lateral move at least. If they end up being the second worst, its an upgrade. They could even end up being the worst in the league and still be an upgrade!!! I can't believe how many people are praising Marrone/Whaley for cutting Colin Brown. Releasing a truly terrible player, the worst offensive linemen in the league no less, shouldn't be praiseworthy. That's something that any team would do. What we all should be doing is condemning the fact that they chose to enter this season with Colin Brown as our team's starting left guard. I find it fine. They brought in an upgrade who then got hurt and weren't able to transition to better right away. Maybe brown showed something that made them give him a chance... Maybe his area of weakness is tough to assess in practice and camp... Hindsight is 20/20, and people who do and strive to accomplish always subject themselves to the risk of being criticized by the watchers and those who do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I saw both Sam young and Colin brown play in the preseason 2, maybe 3 years ago. I remember telling my wife how they (and snow) were horrendous and just camp fodder. I am concerned that real football guys in our FO took 3 years to figure that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I saw both Sam young and Colin brown play in the preseason 2, maybe 3 years ago. I remember telling my wife how they (and snow) were horrendous and just camp fodder. I am concerned that real football guys in our FO took 3 years to figure that out. I agree, I saw Snow for two snaps and just scratched my head. We have made many troubling moves and many troubling non-moves. One of maybe 3 signings I would have liked this team to have made was Ritchie Incognito, it would have changed everything. He and Levitre starting with Urbik a backup. Levitre goes and we're cool because we brought Urbik up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Why? What's the point? What is our better option? This is a stupid move. How is this a stupid move? If Legursky didn't get hurt Brown would never have started. and Legursky is the better option, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I agree, I saw Snow for two snaps and just scratched my head. We have made many troubling moves and many troubling non-moves. One of maybe 3 signings I would have liked this team to have made was Ritchie Incognito, it would have changed everything. He and Levitre starting with Urbik a backup. Levitre goes and we're cool because we brought Urbik up. Letting incognito walk was stupid. He was good and cheap. Same with Marcus price, if you remember him--solid backup swing tackle. This team has a history of extraordinarily poor talent evals when it comes to oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 He took the long route through Minnesota and J-Ville to get there...But congrats to Asper for finally making that Draft pick pay off... A rather circuitous route, but he's always had Asper-ations of making the Bills look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 How is this a stupid move? If Legursky didn't get hurt Brown would never have started. and Legursky is the better option, obviously. Brown had the edge on legursky in camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Also signed OL Bryant Browning to PS. Booya! Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 How is this a stupid move? If Legursky didn't get hurt Brown would never have started. and Legursky is the better option, obviously. If ifs and buts whatever that saying is... Yes, if Legursky did not get hurt we would still have a journeyman mid grade at best OG. With all due respect to the beneathly quoted, Legursky did not give me the highest of hopes. It goes back years and it has been a trend. Letting incognito walk was stupid. He was good and cheap. Same with Marcus price, if you remember him--solid backup swing tackle. This team has a history of extraordinarily poor talent evals when it comes to oline. Yet, when we play we get the most out of them. It is confounding. It makes me more frustrated. We must think that we can pick up players from garbage and put them as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 A rather circuitous route, but he's always had Asper-ations of making the Bills look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 3 pages dedicated to the worst OL in the NFL? Let's see if he can surpass the Shawn Powell thread that was dedicated to the release of the worst punter in the league. just to add to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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