Draconator Posted August 29 Posted August 29 6 minutes ago, NickelCity said: I'd also much rather live in Wisconsin than Dallas. I've been to both areas and stadiums. Green Bay is a family type neighborhood. AT&T Stadium and the surrounding area is like Disneyland for Football, complete with 2 Major League Baseball Stadiums. 1 Quote
NewEra Posted August 29 Posted August 29 1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Why bring in Micah Parsons when you can extend Rousseau? /S Lotta cope there. My guess is if Beane and McDermott are still around, they'll pursue Parsons when he's washed Thanks- 🍿 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted August 29 Posted August 29 10 minutes ago, NickelCity said: I kind of like it for Green Bay more than for us. Don't get me wrong I'd like Parsons, but he moves the needle a lot more for them than for us. Potentially worth the higher risk? I'd also much rather live in Wisconsin than Dallas. Haven't seen Green Bay, but I did live in Dallas for 2 years. Thought it was a very metropolitan, world-class city with a solid food and bev and entertainment scene across many distinct neighborhoods. Not prohibitively expensive (when I was there ~15 years ago). Fairly diverse. Lotta trust fund southerners, but nowhere is perfect. My girlfriend at the time actually bartended at Cowboys games, in the bar the Cowboys players run through. Happening place to be in my early 30s, even if I was behind enemy lines. Don't think I'd go back, but also not sure Green Bay would be an invigorating place to live. Quote
Mikie2times Posted August 29 Posted August 29 (edited) For those that are in the camp of too much money, what do you expect to pay if we hit on a elite DE? Are you going to let him walk after his first contract? The goal is to be in a position to pay somebody this type of money. We haven’t been yet. So in some ways whenever we see these deals, especially given our inability to find this type of talent ourselves, yes, it’s a little frustrating that we aren’t in the mix. A player like this is the difference at this point and a couple picks in the 30s hasn’t really elevated this team. To me, a guy like this is worth Keon Coleman, Max Hairston, and Ed Oliver. That’s a couple 30 picks and your DT. It’s not even a thought. I hope we at least made the call. Edited August 29 by Mikie2times 1 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted August 29 Posted August 29 8 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: For those that are in the camp of too much money, what do you expect to pay if we hit on a elite DE? Are you going to let him walk after his first contract? The goal is to be in a position to pay somebody this type of money. We haven’t been yet. So in some ways whenever we see these deals, especially given our inability to find this type of talent ourselves, yes, it’s a little frustrating that we aren’t in the mix. A player like this is the difference at this point and a couple picks in the 30s hasn’t really elevated this team. To me, a guy like this is worth Keon Coleman, Max Hairston, and Ed Oliver. That’s a couple 30 picks and your DT. It’s not even a thought. I hope we at least made the call. Hasn't recent SB history shown that the DL is more about collective talent than about fielding one elite EDGE guy? Or moreover, if you have one elite guy, it's better to have him on the inside? I actually prefer McBeane's approach to building a deep DL, it's just that they haven't picked the right guys and/or haven't properly developed the guys they've picked (coaching/scheme). Hopefully Nielsen can help get more out of the DL room overall. Some interior disruption would go a LONG way towards making this D work. Especially while the dynamic LBs behind them are healthy. 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted August 29 Posted August 29 1 hour ago, Mikie2times said: For those that are in the camp of too much money, what do you expect to pay if we hit on a elite DE? Are you going to let him walk after his first contract? The goal is to be in a position to pay somebody this type of money. We haven’t been yet. So in some ways whenever we see these deals, especially given our inability to find this type of talent ourselves, yes, it’s a little frustrating that we aren’t in the mix. A player like this is the difference at this point and a couple picks in the 30s hasn’t really elevated this team. To me, a guy like this is worth Keon Coleman, Max Hairston, and Ed Oliver. That’s a couple 30 picks and your DT. It’s not even a thought. I hope we at least made the call. When you're gearing up to re-sign your own you see it coming and plan accordingly. It is much harder if not impossible to work in a $47M AAV contract out of the blue a week before the season starts after you just spent a whole offseason tying up your cap for the next few years. I'm more open to this argument as it pertains to DK Metcalf where we had a legit opportunity to add him while the team building process was still ongoing. That is a potential missed opportunity that could theoretically look really bad depending on how this season ends. But Parsons just wasn't possible IMO. The argument is Rousseau plus Bernard plus Hoecht, or just Parsons, and if that was the trade off I would of course take Parsons. But we weren't presented with that trade off and Beane couldn't just sit on his hands all offseason saving future cap for a hypothetical move that nobody saw coming. 4 1 1 Quote
BillsfaninSB Posted August 29 Posted August 29 3 hours ago, julian said: If the Cowboys have a top 10 pick next year they will now have the ammo to move into the 1 spot to get Arch Manning. They have to hope the Titans have the worst record in football this year, if they do then the Titans will 100% move outta that spot to get extra 1st round pick(s) and only have to slide down a few spots, Titans took Cam Ward this year so they could cash in on the Manning golden ticket. Saints are tanking. They are going to take Arch all day long. 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted August 29 Posted August 29 32 minutes ago, HappyDays said: When you're gearing up to re-sign your own you see it coming and plan accordingly. It is much harder if not impossible to work in a $47M AAV contract out of the blue a week before the season starts after you just spent a whole offseason tying up your cap for the next few years. I'm more open to this argument as it pertains to DK Metcalf where we had a legit opportunity to add him while the team building process was still ongoing. That is a potential missed opportunity that could theoretically look really bad depending on how this season ends. But Parsons just wasn't possible IMO. The argument is Rousseau plus Bernard plus Hoecht, or just Parsons, and if that was the trade off I would of course take Parsons. But we weren't presented with that trade off and Beane couldn't just sit on his hands all offseason saving future cap for a hypothetical move that nobody saw coming. This and we would've had a lot of ammunition if we knew Parsons was available for a trade in March (a 1st, two 2nds, Cook and Rousseau on their rookie deals). Dallas dropped the ball here as they could've gotten a lot more for him in March including pieces that would've helped them compete this year. 3 Quote
RobbRiddick Posted August 29 Posted August 29 Reminds me of when they signed Reggie back in the day. Jerry probably didn’t like Parsons getting so much attention off the field with his podcast and all, taking the attention away from himself 1 1 Quote
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 29 Posted August 29 (edited) It would be the most stunning trade of the year for just about any other city in America besides Dallas, which has now seen its sports teams deal away two young cornerstones in Parsons and NBA standout Luka Doncic in a matter of eight months.Like Doncic, Parsons is the sort of young superstar at a critical position who isn't supposed to ever hit the market. Barnwell-ESPN https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46098256/micah-parsons-trade-2025-nfl-dallas-cowboys-green-bay-packers Edited August 29 by Mike in Horseheads 1 Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted August 29 Posted August 29 (edited) 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: When you're gearing up to re-sign your own you see it coming and plan accordingly. It is much harder if not impossible to work in a $47M AAV contract out of the blue a week before the season starts after you just spent a whole offseason tying up your cap for the next few years. I'm more open to this argument as it pertains to DK Metcalf where we had a legit opportunity to add him while the team building process was still ongoing. That is a potential missed opportunity that could theoretically look really bad depending on how this season ends. But Parsons just wasn't possible IMO. The argument is Rousseau plus Bernard plus Hoecht, or just Parsons, and if that was the trade off I would of course take Parsons. But we weren't presented with that trade off and Beane couldn't just sit on his hands all offseason saving future cap for a hypothetical move that nobody saw coming. The GM is paid in part to predict the NFL landscape. We spend every offseason discussing options of names that may be available. Somehow, the Packers GM managed to sit on his hands enough to have the space to absorb Parsons. The downside to extending all those young dudes earlier was that we tied up all our finances to make a move like this next to impossible. That’s a choice the GM made. Edited August 29 by RoscoeParrish Quote
julian Posted August 29 Posted August 29 4 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: Saints are tanking. They are going to take Arch all day long. They’re definitely in the running Quote
gonzo1105 Posted August 29 Posted August 29 I will say this too, Green Bay may have given up less because in addition to the 47 AAV they got Parsons signed to they are also taking on 35 million dollars in dead cap by trading Kenny Clark. That’s 82 million dollars in one trade 1 1 Quote
Ray Finkel Posted August 29 Posted August 29 What would Bruce Smith’s salary be if he played today? 1 Quote
Chaos Posted August 29 Posted August 29 13 hours ago, Process said: I feel like I'll be in the minority, but Dallas won this trade. I feel like we got to a point in this process where Parsons became slightly overrated. 47 million is insane. Dallas is in a world of hurt. Jalen Hurt. Plus Jayden Daniels and maybe Jaxon Dart. Dallas should next to try and trade Prescott and as much of his salary as another team will take for even a second round pick. This puts them in a position to compete in the Arch Manning sweepstakes and have the draft capital and cap space to build around him instantly. Quote
BillsFan130 Posted August 29 Posted August 29 6 hours ago, Mikie2times said: For those that are in the camp of too much money, what do you expect to pay if we hit on a elite DE? Are you going to let him walk after his first contract? The goal is to be in a position to pay somebody this type of money. We haven’t been yet. So in some ways whenever we see these deals, especially given our inability to find this type of talent ourselves, yes, it’s a little frustrating that we aren’t in the mix. A player like this is the difference at this point and a couple picks in the 30s hasn’t really elevated this team. To me, a guy like this is worth Keon Coleman, Max Hairston, and Ed Oliver. That’s a couple 30 picks and your DT. It’s not even a thought. I hope we at least made the call. The contract should have been done after year 3. If it was, parsons was probably signing for mid to high 30s, before Garrett reset the market after the 2024 season. Jerry did the same thing with Dak. Tried to play hardball, and it ended up costing him as he had to ante up and pay 60 mil per year 2 Quote
frostbitmic Posted August 29 Posted August 29 He'll both help and hurt the Packers, on the field he'll be great ... When they have to pay their QB that'll be over 100M for two players, they still have 51 other players they have to pay. I don't think I'd give up two firsts for anything other than a QB. Not having those picks will hurt. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted August 29 Posted August 29 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: I will say this too, Green Bay may have given up less because in addition to the 47 AAV they got Parsons signed to they are also taking on 35 million dollars in dead cap by trading Kenny Clark. That’s 82 million dollars in one trade How are they paying anyone else? 1 Quote
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