Kaiir Elam traded to Cowboys

[DrDawkinstein]

37 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

90% of guys who make these type of comments clearly didn’t learn their lesson about why they were failures at their old team.  It takes a hard look in mirror and being humble about why you failed.  

 

I dont think it has much of anything to do with the old team and the time spent there. These are just PR/Marketing blurbs to endorse the new team and ingratiate themselves with the new coaches and new fans.

 

We shouldnt even be reading it. It's like reading the texts between your ex-gf and her new bf. If she says "I've never been happier" dont take it as a direct attack on you and your time together.

[BADOLBILZ]

The Elam's were all knuckleheads at his age.   Whether he was different than his dad/uncle was always the biggest question to me.   He isn't.   I expect he will get it together eventually.   He has plenty of talent so he will get enough shots til it sticks.   It's not a direct comparison but Rasul Douglas was terrible until he was suddenly really good.   

[Steve O]

3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

The Elam's were all knuckleheads at his age.   Whether he was different than his dad/uncle was always the biggest question to me.   He isn't.   I expect he will get it together eventually.   He has plenty of talent so he will get enough shots til it sticks.   It's not a direct comparison but Rasul Douglas was terrible until he was suddenly really good.   

Same with Rich Gannon. More like below average until he was suddenly really good but you get the picture.

[LabattBlue]

Wait until 2-3 years from now when he experiences the “energy” of working at McDonalds.  

[machine gun kelly]

3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I dont think it has much of anything to do with the old team and the time spent there. These are just PR/Marketing blurbs to endorse the new team and ingratiate themselves with the new coaches and new fans.

 

We shouldnt even be reading it. It's like reading the texts between your ex-gf and her new bf. If she says "I've never been happier" dont take it as a direct attack on you and your time together.

Agreed on leaving it alone.  Hey, if he’s happy, and thinks he can be successful on the Cowgirls, good for him.  It was no great secret he and his position coach did t get along.  It honestly doesn’t matter.  All of us have had a manager we didn’t like, but had to follow their lead.  It’s just business.

[H2o]

5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

I mean once he played, or practiced, or whatevered himself into the dog house, he never found the way out. His first year seemed promising, imo. I expected a nice step forward into year two. Then he ends up injured, then inactive, or barely seeing the field when he was active on game days. At that point, I think whatever it was had him completely and he just wasn't going to find his way onto the field consistently. I think a fresh start is good for him and he will be better in Dallas for that alone. I don't think he will all of a sudden turn into a superstar, but I think he fits better with what they do in their Secondary. For whatever reason, he fell out of favor quickly here. 

[YoloinOhio]

5 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

I have no doubt the guys on wgr get all of their talking points from two bills drive. Sal is talking about this now 

Plot twist. I’m Sal. 

[Draconator]

6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Plot twist. I’m Sal. 

Is that why you have over 118K posts? Getting show material yo?

[hondo in seattle]

“I love the enthusiasm, and also I would just say the energy from the coaching staff, they actually make you feel like they care, and that’s something that’s very exciting.”

 

Apparently, he didn't feel loved in Buffalo.

[Fleezoid]

6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

I think he got caught up with all the AT&T Stadium tours and is confusing that with the team and coaching staff. 

[transient]

1 hour ago, H2o said:

I mean once he played, or practiced, or whatevered himself into the dog house, he never found the way out. His first year seemed promising, imo. I expected a nice step forward into year two. Then he ends up injured, then inactive, or barely seeing the field when he was active on game days. At that point, I think whatever it was had him completely and he just wasn't going to find his way onto the field consistently. I think a fresh start is good for him and he will be better in Dallas for that alone. I don't think he will all of a sudden turn into a superstar, but I think he fits better with what they do in their Secondary. For whatever reason, he fell out of favor quickly here. 

Whatever the disconnect, he looked so tentative and unsure of himself in that KC playoff game that he might as well have been playing in mud.

[folz]

On 3/12/2025 at 3:19 PM, Process said:

We got basically nothing and somehow we still fleeced them

 

 

I know this is an old thread and an old post. But, if it hasn't been noted yet, we can see a little bit better now how the Elam trade is panning out.

 

Dallas got: Kaiir Elam and a 6th round pick (204 overall) in the 2025 draft with which they selected OT Ajani Cornelius (Oregon)

Buffalo got: 2025 5th round pick (170 overall) with which they selected CB Jordan Hancock (Ohio State), and they still get Dallas' 2026 7th round pick.

 

 

Interesting to note, Buffalo also picked an OT, Chase Lundt two picks after Dallas in the 6th round (pick 206). This wasn't part of the trade, it was Buffalo's pick, but interesting to note that we still got what Dallas got with the pick we sent them, an OT (depending on which guy ends up being better), in the same range of the 6th round. [FYI: according to nfl mock-draft database, which is a consensus of 200 big boards and over 1,500 mock drafts, Lundt was mocked 31 picks higher than Cornelius.]

 

 

So, as far as the Bills are concerned, it's already a good trade. Elam was going nowhere on our team. Hancock at least has potential. Beane still has a 7th next year to play with. And we still got an OT in the 6th, like Dallas did with the pick we sent them.

 

As for Dallas, it will mostly depend on Elam. If he's a bust in Dallas too, bad trade for Dallas. If he becomes a solid starter for them (iffy), win/win for both teams.

 

 

And if we were to look at just value, per the draft trade value chart: Pick 170 (2025) is worth 23.4 points, 7th rounder (2026) = 1 point. Pick 204 is worth 9.4 points.

 

So, at this point, we can look at the trade in two ways:

Buffalo got Jordan Hancock and Dallas' 2026 7th round pick for Kaiir Elam and Ajani Cornelius. 

Or...Buffalo got the value of pick 190 in the top half of the 6th round for Elam 

 

I wouldn't call it a fleecing (unless Elam is a total bust in Dallas as well and Hancock becomes a player), but we did at least get something (not nothing) for Elam---basically a mid-6th rounder in overall value. But if Hancock becomes a guy...

 

[Kirby Jackson]

Haven’t read the whole thread or any of it so sorry if this has been discussed. What did we expect him to say about Dallas? “I liked the last place better.” Of course he is going to say what he said and we shouldn’t care at all. 
 

As for Kaiir the person. He’s a fantastic human being. We know the family of Sophia. You’ve all probably seen the story whether you remember it or not but it’s all genuine. That guy would call her, show up there, I’m told that he still keeps in touch with the family. There was nothing fake or contrived about how he handled that situation and how that family feels about him. You see things like this when ESPN does “my wish” but this went on for what was left of her life (and still to this day). He’s a world class human being. We should all hope that our children grow up to be like him. https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/remembering-sophia-sophia-the-fierce-benintende

[folz]

16 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Haven’t read the whole thread or any of it so sorry if this has been discussed. What did we expect him to say about Dallas? “I liked the last place better.” Of course he is going to say what he said and we shouldn’t care at all. 
 

As for Kaiir the person. He’s a fantastic human being. We know the family of Sophia. You’ve all probably seen the story whether you remember it or not but it’s all genuine. That guy would call her, show up there, I’m told that he still keeps in touch with the family. There was nothing fake or contrived about how he handled that situation and how that family feels about him. You see things like this when ESPN does “my wish” but this went on for what was left of her life (and still to this day). He’s a world class human being. We should all hope that our children grow up to be like him. https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/remembering-sophia-sophia-the-fierce-benintende

 

He didn't work out here in Buffalo (whatever the reasons may be), but for three years, despite the rocky ride for him, he didn't complain, or try to work the media, or cause any problems in the locker room, etc. As he said, he just kept his head down and worked hard. As a Bills fan, it would be hard to see him turn it around and be successful in Dallas...but he seems to be a really good kid and I actually hope he can do just that.

[Alphadawg7]

9 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

Energy will only get you so far.   You also have to play with intelligence and technique.  I am sure the Bills coaches did stop caring for Kair when they realized he refused to play with intelligence and technique.     I tell my kids all the time.   Dont worry about when a coach yells at you.  Worry when they stop talking to you. 

 

Dude you nailed it.  This couldn't be more true.  

 

And people making this Elam comment into something need to realize a few things as well:

• "Benefit from a change a scenery" is a statement that exists for a reason.  He was in a rut here, fell behind.  Of course being some place new where there is new energy within him and around him is going to feel different and better.  
• What else is he supposed to say?  Dallas sucks and he misses Buffalo?  He is trying to make this team, start on this team, and amp himself to compete.  If he didn't say this I would be more surprised than him saying this.  
• He is gonna leave feeling short changed being a first round pick and just not getting the opportunities because a 6th rounder beat him out and he never figured out how to play in our system.  

This is a big nothing burger in terms of anything people want to point to the Bills about.  

[eball]

4 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

“I love the enthusiasm, and also I would just say the energy from the coaching staff, they actually make you feel like they care, and that’s something that’s very exciting.”

 

Apparently, he didn't feel loved in Buffalo.

 

LOL -- I think even McD's fiercest critics would acknowledge he goes above and beyond in the "caring" department.  They just gave up on Elam because he wasn't doing what they needed him to do even with a lot of coaching.

 

But whatever; I wish the dude all the best.

 

[RoscoeParrish]

3 hours ago, folz said:

 

I know this is an old thread and an old post. But, if it hasn't been noted yet, we can see a little bit better now how the Elam trade is panning out.

 

Dallas got: Kaiir Elam and a 6th round pick (204 overall) in the 2025 draft with which they selected OT Ajani Cornelius (Oregon)

Buffalo got: 2025 5th round pick (170 overall) with which they selected CB Jordan Hancock (Ohio State), and they still get Dallas' 2026 7th round pick.

 

 

Interesting to note, Buffalo also picked an OT, Chase Lundt two picks after Dallas in the 6th round (pick 206). This wasn't part of the trade, it was Buffalo's pick, but interesting to note that we still got what Dallas got with the pick we sent them, an OT (depending on which guy ends up being better), in the same range of the 6th round. [FYI: according to nfl mock-draft database, which is a consensus of 200 big boards and over 1,500 mock drafts, Lundt was mocked 31 picks higher than Cornelius.]

 

 

So, as far as the Bills are concerned, it's already a good trade. Elam was going nowhere on our team. Hancock at least has potential. Beane still has a 7th next year to play with. And we still got an OT in the 6th, like Dallas did with the pick we sent them.

 

As for Dallas, it will mostly depend on Elam. If he's a bust in Dallas too, bad trade for Dallas. If he becomes a solid starter for them (iffy), win/win for both teams.

 

 

And if we were to look at just value, per the draft trade value chart: Pick 170 (2025) is worth 23.4 points, 7th rounder (2026) = 1 point. Pick 204 is worth 9.4 points.

 

So, at this point, we can look at the trade in two ways:

Buffalo got Jordan Hancock and Dallas' 2026 7th round pick for Kaiir Elam and Ajani Cornelius. 

Or...Buffalo got the value of pick 190 in the top half of the 6th round for Elam 

 

I wouldn't call it a fleecing (unless Elam is a total bust in Dallas as well and Hancock becomes a player), but we did at least get something (not nothing) for Elam---basically a mid-6th rounder in overall value. But if Hancock becomes a guy...

 

I honestly considered getting anything for Elam a bonus.

 

I was concerned he was going to be outright cut in camp and had zero value. 

[JimBob2232]

Good trade all around.  He was done here.  No way to revive him.   At the same time, he is a former first round pick.  Worth a shot by Dallas.  Similar reason I liked the swing on Justin Shorter (although not a first rounder, former 5 star recruit).  these kinda guys have potential...but usually they dont work out.  But its a lottery ticket IMO.

[DCofNC]

I expect him to be a contributor in Dallas, he flashed quite a bit when he got a chance here.  He also had a lot of mental lapses, so if the coaching there can reach him, he was a 1st round pick for a reason.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

15 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

I have no doubt the guys on wgr get all of their talking points from two bills drive. Sal is talking about this now 

Pretty sure it was this board but a few years ago, a wgr host started a debate on their show that was word for word a thread that was started a hour prior 

 

Proceeded to just read the posts as their own opinions and own counter arguments