Warriorspikes51 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 27 years old 5’10 183 lbs I’m not a big fan….but his production is better than I expected especially having been stuck on their inept offense Edited March 9 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 27 years old 5’10 183 lbs Too deep a draft class and he is meh… pass 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Would trade a second for him in two seconds 9 1 7 3 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 GIT ‘R DUN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 I’d give up one of those 4th round picks we got instead of taking a 2nd WR in the draft. But that’s about it. 4 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) If the price is right, sure, but still also need to add a WR in first two rounds. Edit: Strange move if they are trying to bring in Russ… Edited March 9 by JohnBonhamRocks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Not needed. I like Shakir’s upside and Johnson does alot of the same things as him and Diggs. Buffalo needs a different style wr. Pickens? We can talk about that but for a day 3 pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) Guy drops A LOT of passes. Does have some talent, though. I would be a buyer at nothing more than a late pick swap (we give them a 6th for Johnson and a 7th) Edited March 9 by BuffaloBillyG 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 He is very good and has suffered from an awful OC and awful QB. He is only 27 years old, and would fit well in our offense. Assuming the compensation required is not significant -- something like a day 3 pick seems fine -- then I WOULD do it. The only thing that gives me pause is that 2024 is the last year of his deal, and he'd need to be re-signed. Drafting a rookie in round 1 or 2 probably makes more sense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 5 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: If the price is right, sure, but still also need to add a WR in first two rounds. Edit: Strange move if they are trying to bring in Russ… Maybe they really like a WR in the draft? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warriorspikes51 Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 (edited) His cap hit is 15 mil. Not sure what acquiring team takes on ? His base salary is 7 mil so I believe that could be converted to a bonus Edited March 9 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 10 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Guy drops A LOT of passes. Does have some talent, though. I would be a buyer at nothing more than a late pick swap (we give them a 6th for Johnson and a 7th) 5, 7, and 2 are his drop totals from the last three seasons. Much better than I thought, honestly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 So a shorter and lighter Shakir? I'd rather see if Shakir can play outside. Surprisingly, he isn't a slot guy 5 minutes ago, Logic said: He is very good and has suffered from an awful OC and awful QB. He is only 27 years old, and would fit well in our offense. Assuming the compensation required is not significant -- something like a day 3 pick seems fine -- then I WOULD do it. The only thing that gives me pause is that 2024 is the last year of his deal, and he'd need to be re-signed. Drafting a rookie in round 1 or 2 probably makes more sense. I'm ehhh on it. I don't like going into the draft with such a MUST FILL mentality, but I am not sure if he is worth the compensation. If the Bills pull the trigger for a 4th or 5th I won't hate it, but I'd still want to draft a WR high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: 5, 7, and 2 are his drop totals from the last three seasons. Much better than I thought, honestly. agreed. Okay then. I’d offer a day 3 pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: His cap hit is 15 mil. Not sure what acquiring team takes on ? His base salary is 7 mil so I believe that could be converted to a bonus Pitt would eat the signing bonus, could possibly eat the roster bonus. $7 M for a vet is a bargain, but I'm kind of meh on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 2 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I'm ehhh on it. I don't like going into the draft with such a MUST FILL mentality, but I am not sure if he is worth the compensation. If the Bills pull the trigger for a 4th or 5th I won't hate it, but I'd still want to draft a WR high. Yeah I honestly wouldn't want to give up a premium pick (nor do I think the Steelers can reasonably request one, since he's in the last year of his deal, wants out, and is coming off two lackluster seasons), and I wouldn't want it to preclude us from drafting a WR early. If we could trade a 5th (we have three of them) for him AND still draft a WR in round 1 or 2? Sign me up all day, every day. Edited March 9 by Logic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, Logic said: Yeah I honestly wouldn't want to give up a premium pick (nor do I think the Steelers can reasonably request one, since he's in the last year of his deal, wants out, and is coming off two lackluster seasons), and I wouldn't want it to preclude us from drafting a WR early. If we could trade a 5th (we have three of them) for him AND still draft a WR in round 1 or 2? Sign me up all day, every day. that’s key here. If Beane did this and then didn’t draft a WR early that’s a problem https://steelersdepot.com/2023/07/diontae-johnson-is-a-misunderstood-player-elite-route-runner-analyst-argues/#:~:text=People look at him as,build and way to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 This is the guy that doesn't block and pouts on the sideline. Zero percent he's a Buffalo Bill IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 (edited) Dionate actually plays mostly the X 4 minutes ago, dpberr said: This is the guy that doesn't block and pouts on the sideline. Zero percent he's a Buffalo Bill IMO. Ahhh forgot about that https://youtube.com/shorts/Fi5CJOBA7SM?si=D9G2BCo6Fh_GObz_ Edited March 9 by Warriorspikes51 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 He's one of the more talented WRs in the league IMO (not like top 10 or anything but probably top 30) but he had a really weird season this past year. Granted the QB play in Pittsburgh has been atrocious in recent years but he seemed to just give up last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 NO! He’s an explosive WR, but drops and dumb mistakes seem to follow him. I remember watching a prime time game a couple years ago and saying “Diontae Johnson is the type of player I’d move on from if he was a Bill.” No, no, and no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 If Jerry Jeudy only cost a 5th and 6th, we can afford this. 2 minutes ago, DCOrange said: He's one of the more talented WRs in the league IMO (not like top 10 or anything but probably top 30) but he had a really weird season this past year. Granted the QB play in Pittsburgh has been atrocious in recent years but he seemed to just give up last year. If I had to play in the Matt Canada offense, I'd stop trying too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanislebills44 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4th or lower no doubt about it...we have all seen what he can do, imagine with a damn good qb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 5 minutes ago, DCOrange said: He's one of the more talented WRs in the league IMO (not like top 10 or anything but probably top 30) but he had a really weird season this past year. Granted the QB play in Pittsburgh has been atrocious in recent years but he seemed to just give up last year. Kenny Pickett has almost twice as many starts than passing TD’s in his career. He had 6 TD’s in 12 starts last year. Can’t imagine why he gave up. We need to stop trying to beat the Chiefs with choir boys and role models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 25 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: 5, 7, and 2 are his drop totals from the last three seasons. Much better than I thought, honestly. On paper, yes that's what he's "credited" with. Watching games, he drops much more than that yearly. Drops are always comically marked low 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Kenny Pickett has almost twice as many starts than passing TD’s in his career. He had 6 TD’s in 12 starts last year. Can’t imagine why he gave up. We need to stop trying to beat the Chiefs with choir boys and role models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: On paper, yes that's what he's "credited" with. Watching games, he drops much more than that yearly. Drops are always comically marked low I’m sure the “2” could be easily dispelled by asking any devoted Steeler fan if Diontae Johnson dropped more than two passes last year. Their fans get super frustrated with him too. He’s like a more talented Isaiah McKenzie with the same penchant for dumb occurrences. I wouldn’t trade a 7th for him, mentally, he’s not the type of WR this team needs. Edited March 9 by Brand J 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 The Stillers are trying to dump their garbage onto others... they finally realized it's not a Pickett issue but a WR/OL issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Von is old and slow. Just now, EasternOHBillsFan said: The Stillers are trying to dump their garbage onto others... they finally realized it's not a Pickett issue but a WR/OL issue. This is a sarcastic take, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 51 minutes ago, FireChans said: Would trade a second for him in two seconds Why when the draft class is deep and us being cap strapped? Not doggin on ya just wonder your take. I think he is an average receiver and wouldn’t want to waste any capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Just now, billsfan_34 said: Why when the draft class is deep and us being cap strapped? Not doggin on ya just wonder your take. I think he is an average receiver and wouldn’t want to waste any capital. Because I want good receivers not lotto tickets and Trent Sherfields. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 They can get the intel in him from trubisky. Not so sure it will be good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 27 minutes ago, Logic said: Yeah I honestly wouldn't want to give up a premium pick (nor do I think the Steelers can reasonably request one, since he's in the last year of his deal, wants out, and is coming off two lackluster seasons), and I wouldn't want it to preclude us from drafting a WR early. If we could trade a 5th (we have three of them) for him AND still draft a WR in round 1 or 2? Sign me up all day, every day. The nice guys at Cover 1 dug into his stats, and his drop rate has been lower than people made it out to be and while I thought he was a slot guy from his build he has played mostly outside. $7-10M on a one year rental (depending on whether Pitt pays the roster bonus) for a productive outside receiver is a steal compared to the money the current market for a productive outside WR. If Pitt goes for a 5th (or two) I'd pull the trigger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 14 minutes ago, Roundybout said: If Jerry Jeudy only cost a 5th and 6th, we can afford this. If I had to play in the Matt Canada offense, I'd stop trying too. 10 minutes ago, FireChans said: Kenny Pickett has almost twice as many starts than passing TD’s in his career. He had 6 TD’s in 12 starts last year. Can’t imagine why he gave up. We need to stop trying to beat the Chiefs with choir boys and role models. Like I said, I get it. The QB play has been horrible there for a few years and like I said, Diontae is a talented dude. Probably a better player than anyone we're likely to get in the draft and he would obviously cost much less than a 1st round pick. I do wonder if he's viewed as a culture fit though. Even with guys like Von who have proven to not be a choir boy, he's at least a guy that you know will give it his all to try to help the team. That cannot be said for Diontae after this past season. I think he's worth considering regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 57 minutes ago, mrags said: I’d give up one of those 4th round picks we got instead of taking a 2nd WR in the draft. But that’s about it. Meh...then you gotta take on that cap hit and/or pay him soon. It's his final year and his cap hit is $15.8 million this year. Likely will want an extension of $20+ million if he has a good year... No thanks. Edited March 9 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 He’d be a great option to pair with Diggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 22 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Meh...then you gotta take on that cap hit and/or pay him soon. It's his final year and his cap hit is $15.8 million this year. Likely will want an extension of $20+ million if he has a good year... No thanks. A 4th is a one year. Borrow imo. Just to get you by. Especially with a rookie in the roster. In case he doesn’t come around fast enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 He's good but not great. I don't think he'd ever be a bonafide #1 guy. With the strength of this year's draft being at WR I'd pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 2 minutes ago, mrags said: A 4th is a one year. Borrow imo. Just to get you by. Especially with a rookie in the roster. In case he doesn’t come around fast enough. He could also give an easy opportunity to dump Diggs next year if the rookie pans out. Rookie #1 WR and a vet with some good years ahead of him as #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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