BillsFanForever19 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 This is pretty much where I'm at. I'm way more annoyed by the absolute psychosis that follows one of his tweets than the tweets themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 49 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: He is "essential"!! No other player on the roster is as essential to Josh Allen's success as Stefon Diggs!! Nobody!! WAS. Was as essential. Josh Allen is developed. He doesn’t need the current Diggs. He needs a younger version. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: WAS. Was as essential. Josh Allen is developed. He doesn’t need the current Diggs. He needs a younger version. He played well without Diggs being involved the back half of the season. If folks wanna argue that Diggs was a decoy, drawing all the attention and freeing up Kincaid/Shakir/Cook, then why do opposing teams make it a point after games to say that Diggs was hardly being doubled? I heard that more than once. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 For the love of god, how thin skinned are some of you? Yeah, Diggs is a drama llama and a bit of a ***** stirrer. I don't care. I don't remember him ever slagging off the team in public. The closest was his visible frustration on the sideline at how poor the game planning and execution for the offense was for the Bengals game which...same. Remember when he posted a heart emoji, and then "Ready for Whatever" and people assumed he was trying to force his way off the team? Some people got an idea fixed in their head and are going to interpret all evidence to that end, regardless of context. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 12 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: For the love of god, how thin skinned are some of you? Yeah, Diggs is a drama llama and a bit of a ***** stirrer. I don't care. I don't remember him ever slagging off the team in public. The closest was his visible frustration on the sideline at how poor the game planning and execution for the offense was for the Bengals game which...same. Remember when he posted a heart emoji, and then "Ready for Whatever" and people assumed he was trying to force his way off the team? Some people got an idea fixed in their head and are going to interpret all evidence to that end, regardless of context. The irony of some on here overreacting to Diggs tweets, calling him soft and a diva….because of his tweets 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 9 hours ago, sven233 said: Diggs is going to be here for at least a couple more years. There is just no justifying anything else with the dead money on his contract. If Diggs truly wanted out, which I don't think he does, he just has to go to Beane and tell him that he will rip up his current deal, agree to one with no guaranteed money, and then get traded. But with the guarantees in his current contract, trading or releasing him would be flat out dumb. All that said, it's the main reason we have to find our future WR1 in this draft. Diggs, even if he is here, is heading towards WR2 status sooner than later. We need to nail this pick and find a guy that could possibly be ready by the end of this season heading into the Playoffs that can grow into the new go to guy. I see it a different way. There was 1 move and 1 non move this off-season that may mean more than at first glance when it comes to the future of Diggs next season. The Non Move: Notice even with having very little cap space this year one thing they have NOT done is restructure Stef's contract again. Doing that could have opened about an extra $13M in space for this season while kicking the can down the road. Not doing it means they are keeping the money where it's at and giving them a year to prepare for him to be moved either by trade or release at less long term financial risk. Now, they "could" still restructure him if something pressing happens, but sitting at almost $8M below the cap and getting $10M from the Tre White release on June 2nd means they are pretty set. The Move: Thought this flew under the radar a bit. But when they restructured Josh's deal they did NOT do it for max value of what they could have done. I believe Beane left $7M on the table. This would be key as that's money that will not increase the cap for next year and would soften the blow of a couple of large dead cap hits (namely Stef and Von) if needed. Right now, the Bills hold the cards on Stef's future in Buffalo. If he bounces back there's a chance that he may be here next year. But they have given themselves the flexibility to move on if what we saw on the back half of last year becomes the norm. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Ya Digg? said: The irony of some on here overreacting to Diggs tweets, calling him soft and a diva….because of his tweets responding to fans in such a manner that can be perceived as direct disrespect toward your QB is unwise....to say the least. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 23 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: responding to fans in such a manner that can be perceived as direct disrespect toward your QB is unwise....to say the least. But again that’s your perception of what he is saying. You have made no mistake about it, you want him gone-that’s fine, that’s your opinion, don’t have a problem with it. But are you reading too much into it? I like Diggs, I think he’s a good teammate, i don’t really care what he says on Twitter, and I read it more as someone was taking a shot at him not being elite any more, not a shot at Josh. That’s where the line is though. For those of you who want him gone, you’re looking for those types of things and perceived slights. At least from my POV it doesn’t seem like the team or Josh are really taking anything he says on Twitter seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 7 hours ago, Brand J said: He played well without Diggs being involved the back half of the season. If folks wanna argue that Diggs was a decoy, drawing all the attention and freeing up Kincaid/Shakir/Cook, then why do opposing teams make it a point after games to say that Diggs was hardly being doubled? I heard that more than once. That was one Chief player who said that and if you looked at the tape whoever covered Diggs had safety help almost every play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Felt bad that Diggs didn't get the attention he wanted on X last night with the Taiwan earthquake and all that was going on.. but rest assured, our WR1 is back into his rightful spot of Top 10 trending topics across America this morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: Felt bad that Diggs didn't get the attention he wanted on X last night with the Taiwan earthquake and all that was going on.. but rest assured, our WR1 is back into his rightful spot of Top 10 trending topics across America this morning. I find it ironic that you take a shot at Stef for "getting the attention he wanted" with a two word response when the guy at the top of the list you love so much you'd swear he poops gold bars. Edited April 3 by EasternOHBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: I find it ironic that you take a shot at Stef for "getting the attention he wanted" with a two word response when the guy at the top of the list you love so much you'd swear he poops gold bars. Uh, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 10 hours ago, sven233 said: Diggs is going to be here for at least a couple more years. There is just no justifying anything else with the dead money on his contract. If Diggs truly wanted out, which I don't think he does, he just has to go to Beane and tell him that he will rip up his current deal, agree to one with no guaranteed money, and then get traded. But with the guarantees in his current contract, trading or releasing him would be flat out dumb. All that said, it's the main reason we have to find our future WR1 in this draft. Diggs, even if he is here, is heading towards WR2 status sooner than later. We need to nail this pick and find a guy that could possibly be ready by the end of this season heading into the Playoffs that can grow into the new go to guy. I wouldn't be so sure Diggs makes it long. First, the dead money can be viewed in a sunk cost kind of way, that money is going to be paid one way or another and it is just a matter of timing. Second, the future of Diggs is not all based on Diggs feelings of wanting out or not - there is the possibility that the Bills FO wants Diggs out. One can look at some of Diggs comments/actions as having disrespected J Brady - taking plays off, taking himself out on some key 3rd downs, disrespected Beane - by not just doing anything w his contract but by also publicizing in a kind of what are you going to do about it way, and McD can't like the distractions. The FO could think the value for Diggs is at its high. The FO could reasonably think Diggs is on a steep decline and the demand (via Dallas) is strong. The conditions may be assessed that the FO could get by far the most by moving Diggs now (as apposed to waiting another year). Beane probably has a plan where he can come up with the dead cap money (getting rid of Diggs salary + Tre money + Josh restructure - Rome O money). Yes, the Bills odds for the super bowl would take a hit -kind of like when KC got rid of Tyreek. They're going to have to move on at some point, it might be a little earlier than many expected because of the reasons outlined above. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 @Einstein we need to make a Diggs cryptic comments in 2025 in his Texans uni. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 If you didn't think his tweets meant anything, you were wrong. I'm guessing him taking a swing at his QB last night was the last straw for the team. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 12 minutes ago, FireChans said: @Einstein we need to make a Diggs cryptic comments in 2025 in his Texans uni. Funny part is that even with this trade, people won’t believe that his cryptic tweets were messages. They simply won’t get it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 15 minutes ago, HappyDays said: If you didn't think his tweets meant anything, you were wrong. I'm guessing him taking a swing at his QB last night was the last straw for the team. They’ve been working on trading Diggs for a while now. According to a football writer I know who was in Vegas for SB week, the Bills trying to trade Diggs was THE big rumor among teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 This morning… ———- RG3: Is Diggs essential to Josh Allen’s success? Random tweeter responds to RG3: Diggs helped, but he is not essential to Allen’s success. Diggs response: You sure? ———- And yet fans still think Diggs wasn’t giving cryptic messages 🤦🏻♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 26 minutes ago, HappyDays said: If you didn't think his tweets meant anything, you were wrong. I'm guessing him taking a swing at his QB last night was the last straw for the team. I think the timeline is backwards here. Diggs was basically saying “you’re about to find out what Josh looks like without a number 1”. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Billl said: I think the timeline is backwards here. Diggs was basically saying “you’re about to find out what Josh looks like without a number 1”. Diggs must have forgotten the last half of last season, where Allen played without a #1 WR because Diggs was stinking up the joint. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 31 minutes ago, Einstein said: Funny part is that even with this trade, people won’t believe that his cryptic tweets were messages. They simply won’t get it. Yup. A lot of people buried their head in the sand. I'm still shocked this actually happened, but the signs have been there for a while and continued this offseason. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 were ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 12 minutes ago, Billl said: I think the timeline is backwards here. Diggs was basically saying “you’re about to find out what Josh looks like without a number 1”. Could be. Would be interesting to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 This whole thread could be submitted to Cold Takes Exposed. @Beck Water and @H2o with early nominees. That reporter nailed everything. From the team, to the literal pick we landed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 On 3/18/2024 at 11:54 AM, GoBills808 said: thats definitely the best value altho id sprinkle some on texans +550 This guy knows his stuff 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 This thread is amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 28 minutes ago, Einstein said: This whole thread could be submitted to Cold Takes Exposed. @Beck Water and @H2o with early nominees. That reporter nailed everything. From the team, to the literal pick we landed. Guilty as charged 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<bills4life> Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 13 hours ago, sven233 said: Diggs is going to be here for at least a couple more years. There is just no justifying anything else with the dead money on his contract. If Diggs truly wanted out, which I don't think he does, he just has to go to Beane and tell him that he will rip up his current deal, agree to one with no guaranteed money, and then get traded. But with the guarantees in his current contract, trading or releasing him would be flat out dumb. All that said, it's the main reason we have to find our future WR1 in this draft. Diggs, even if he is here, is heading towards WR2 status sooner than later. We need to nail this pick and find a guy that could possibly be ready by the end of this season heading into the Playoffs that can grow into the new go to guy. But is he though? That’s the real question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: If you didn't think his tweets meant anything, you were wrong. I'm guessing him taking a swing at his QB last night was the last straw for the team. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, H2o said: Guilty as charged Been there, done that. haha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 We have officially hit the reset button. 2024 is a wash year 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, BillMafia716ix said: We have officially hit the reset button. 2024 is a wash year wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: wrong. Way too much turnover in one offseason for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 Just now, FireChans said: What? You may have missed it (I did too), but yesterday Diggs essentially inferred that Allen's success was due to him. Someone tweeted that Diggs is a good receiver but Allen's success was not "essential" to have Diggs. Diggs responded "You sure?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 First Nyheim Hines won’t be gone, now this? Fade @BillsFanForever19 forever 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 5 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: For the love of god, how thin skinned are some of you? Yeah, Diggs is a drama llama and a bit of a ***** stirrer. I don't care. I don't remember him ever slagging off the team in public. The closest was his visible frustration on the sideline at how poor the game planning and execution for the offense was for the Bengals game which...same. Remember when he posted a heart emoji, and then "Ready for Whatever" and people assumed he was trying to force his way off the team? Some people got an idea fixed in their head and are going to interpret all evidence to that end, regardless of context. This aged like milk on a hot summer day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 12 minutes ago, FireChans said: First Nyheim Hines won’t be gone, now this? Fade @BillsFanForever19 forever When you're coming out with bangers like "Revolutionize the Kicking Game" - I can see why you'd want to try to get people to laugh at others. Edited April 3 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 plz read this thread lmfao 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Einstein said: This morning… ———- RG3: Is Diggs essential to Josh Allen’s success? Random tweeter responds to RG3: Diggs helped, but he is not essential to Allen’s success. Diggs response: You sure? ———- And yet fans still think Diggs wasn’t giving cryptic messages 🤦🏻♂️ Um, that was a lot less cryptic than many of his other messages. It reads more like "you're about to do that experiment" vs. his earlier stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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