I contend that this team's problem isn't coaching, it's talent.

[Blackbeard]

I agree.  

 

The Bills don't have any explosive players outside of Cook.

 

Look at Flowers last night.  That guy flies around.   Also Pacheco.

 

 

[Gregg]

Just now, Blackbeard said:

I agree.  

 

The Bills don't have any explosive players outside of Cook.

 

Look at Flowers last night.  That guy flies around.   Also Pacheco.

 

 

 

As do Gibbs and Montgomery. 

[GASabresIUFan]

Other than WR and S, the Bills problem isn’t talent or coaching, it’s depth.

 

When you look at the Bills, we have good to excellent starters at most positions.  On offense we have a franchise QB, a star RB, depth at TE, a solid Oline with depth (Bates, Doyle, Anderson and Van Denmark) an up and coming slot receiver in Shakir and Diggs (a No. 2 receiver).  On defense we have three very good corners in Benford, Johnson and Douglas, good to excellent starting LB’s in Benard and Milano, and two very good DL in Rousseau and Oliver.  

 

Injuries this season on defense exposed our lack of depth and it cost us.  Beane spent so much on DL that he neglected everything else until grabbing Douglas at the trade deadline.  Rapp was our only effective Safety depth and the kids Williams and Spector didn’t play much at LB until season’s end.  At CB only Dane Jackson was the depth as 1st rd bust Elam rarely saw the field.  
 

As of right now, the kids at LB plus Elam return. We have also lost much of the depth Beane created on the DL to FA.  We need to pray that Miller steps up next season to be at least somewhat effective.  With Hyde retiring and Rapp a FA, only Poyer remains at safety.  Beane has his work cut out for him to retool the DL and safeties.  He also needs to build depth at CB if Dane Jackson doesn’t return.  What a mess. 
 

With our 1st 3 picks we need a WR to replace Davis, a Safety to replace Hyde and a DT to replace DaQuan Jones.  We also need more talent at WR, an Edge rusher to replace Floyd and Epenesa, plus help at RB, safety and CB.  If the Bills are to stay at the top of the AFC East, Beane is going to have to have the draft of his life, get lucky again on some vet minimum contracts and hope his starters mostly stay healthy.  
 

 

 

Edited January 29 by GASabresIUFan

[Coach Tuesday]

26 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Other than WR and S, the Bills problem isn’t talent or coaching, it’s depth.

 

When you look at the Bills, we have good to excellent starters at most positions.  On offense we have a franchise QB, a star RB, depth at TE, a solid Oline with depth (Bates, Doyle, Anderson and Van Denmark) an up and coming slot receiver in Shakir and Diggs (a No. 2 receiver).  On defense we have three very good corners in Benford, Johnson and Douglas, good to excellent starting LB’s in Benard and Milano, and two very good DL in Rousseau and Oliver.  

 

Injuries this season on defense exposed our lack of depth and it cost us.  Beane spent so much on DL that he neglected everything else until grabbing Douglas at the trade deadline.  Rapp was our only effective Safety depth and the kids Williams and Spector didn’t play much at LB until season’s end.  At CB only Dane Jackson was the depth as 1st rd bust Elam rarely saw the field.  
 

As of right now, the kids at LB plus Elam return. We have also lost much of the depth Beane created on the DL to FA.  We need to pray that Miller steps up next season to be at least somewhat effective.  With Hyde retiring and Rapp a FA, only Poyer remains at safety.  Beane has his work cut out for him to retool the DL and safeties.  He also needs to build depth at CB if Dane Jackson doesn’t return.  What a mess. 
 

With our 1st 3 picks we need a WR to replace Davis, a Safety to replace Hyde and a DT to replace DaQuan Jones.  We also need more talent at WR, an Edge rusher to replace Floyd and Epenesa, plus help at RB, safety and CB.  If the Bills are to stay at the top of the AFC East, Beane is going to have to have the draft of his life, get lucky again on some vet minimum contracts and hope his starters mostly stay healthy.  
 

 

 

 

Sorry but this is 100% wrong.  The Bills proved this year that they have more than adequate depth.  What they need are a few more difference-makers - elite players who can win their matchups and overcome the scheme.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

The OP has had it out for Oliver for years, it's become a crusade because his opinion won't change even after an All Pro-level season.  Facts don't matter.

 

Turning to the actual topic - they definitely need a talent infusion but it was an either/or situation this year.  Better coaching and better discipline and they still could've gotten past KC and perhaps Baltimore.  Both Josh and Sean showed immaturity/fantasy-based decision-making at key junctures in the Divisional Round:

 

1)  The fake punt - had no issue with the call itself, but I am like 85% sure that McD had visions of the articles that would be written about him if he successfully called Hamlin's number on a critical game-changing play.

 

2)  The post-two minute warning offense - Allen had the game in hand by playing within structure and taking what the defense was offering, then came back from the two minute warning determined to win the game by himself.  No doubt he had visions of a walk-off TD pass.  Instead, it was season over.

 

Both Allen and McD need to grow from that last game.  And they need more talent, there's no question about it.  It's both.

 

Yea I know, @Pine Barrens Mafia is an Ed hater - he likes his man bigger in the behind - but he can at least have fun with it. The poster I was replying to is just talking nonsense. 

 

On the fake point I had no problem with them going fake punt there. But jesus if that is the best fake point call we have that is a worry. Snap it to a slow safety right in the middle of the formation and what? Hope he suddenly runs like Barry Sanders?

1 hour ago, Jauronimo said:

I highly doubt thats due to Beane's preference for lots of good with no great.

 

Of course it isn't. It is just that they haven't found the great ones by and large. 

[BananaB]

Coaching gotta realize what they got and get the best out of their talent by putting the players in the best situations to succeed. Can’t really say the Bills are good at doing that. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, Jauronimo said:

I highly doubt thats due to Beane's preference for lots of good with no great.

 

Well, he certainly fails to acquire a lot of great.

 

He's been outstanding at acquiring a lot of good.

 

6 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

It’s not Madden.  You’re not going to have 22 all stars on any team.

 

No, but one should reasonably expect three game-changers at least on the roster.

 

[balln]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He did not play his best on Sunday, no doubt. And last year he didn't either but he was hurt and playing with one arm. But he is one of our best players, he has had a great year and the famous 13 second game he was probably our best defensive player and was in Mahomes's face a lot.

 

Saying he is an average rotational player because of one disappointing game and one game where he was playing with one arm is ridiculous.

I’ll go back and watch him in 13 seconds.

 

its not just ONE bad game.  He had a great season. Sometimes starters in the nfl have great performance and even multiple within one season.
 

That doesn’t mean he’s a great player, All pro, Game wrecker. And that’s what he needed to be at pick 9. Were what 5-6 years in? 

Edited January 29 by balln

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We play great team defense. We done have an individual player on defense that can wreck a game, or at least does it in the playoffs. 
 

And that, there, is what I'm talking about. There are no game-wreckers on defense, and I put that squarely on beane

 

[hondo in seattle]

3 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:

Biggest problem is bad contracts for guys who are older,  Miller/Diggs and White who is getting older and had two major injuries

 

Spending a lot of cap money on two players - White and Miller - that aren't contributing is a serious problem. 

 

This isn't McD's fault.  You could say it's Beane's fault, especially with Von.  Paying that much money for a guy in his 30s was risky.  

 

Tre is just bad luck.  

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, balln said:

I’ll go back and watch him in 13 seconds.

 

its not just ONE bad game.  He had a great season. Sometimes starters in the nfl have great performance and even multiple within one season.
 

That doesn’t mean he’s a great player, All pro, Game wrecker. And that’s what he needed to be at pick 9. Were what 5-6 years in? 

 

I think he has been a game wrecker multiple times this season. But I haven't called him elite.... you called him an average rotational player. He is a top 10 defensive tackle in the league and still ascending. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea I know, @Pine Barrens Mafia is an Ed hater - he likes his man bigger in the behind - but he can at least have fun with it. The poster I was replying to is just talking nonsense. 

 

 

 

you're my boy, blue

 

[ngbills]

Josh Allen, Josh Allen, Josh Allen...but its not coaching its talent.

[GASabresIUFan]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Sorry but this is 100% wrong.  The Bills proved this year that they have more than adequate depth.  What they need are a few more difference-makers - elite players who can win their matchups and overcome the scheme.

You don’t think Allen, Cook and Kincaid are difference makers?  You don’t think if we get a WR in the 1st as I suggested that he could be a difference maker? Don’t forget Allen lead the NFL in TDs.  Cook gave us almost 1600 yards from scrimmage and Kincaid nearly 700 yards as a rookie. 
 

The stats also don’t support your assertion on defense either.  The Bills were 4th in sacks, 2nd in fewest TD’s allowed, 8th in QB pressure %, and we were among the leaders in passes batted down.  
 

Your complaint that we don’t have difference makers like everyone else’s is centered around Digg’s and Davis’ failures at WR.  This is a fixable problem in the draft.
 

Replacing the depth lost on the DL and safety is a much larger problem given our lack of cap space.

[BillsShredder83]

21 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

Did coaching drop a deep shot that hit a receiver in the hands? Did coaching get manhandled back into the QB in the clutch? Did coaching get scorched by a 34 yo tight end in single coverage? Was coaching incapable of winning a pass rush battle all game?

 

 

Did coaching drop a deep shot that hit a receiver in the hands? so diggs acquisition was bad because of this play, diggs is a negative on BBs resume?  Sherfields first drop, his arm was pinned down. second one was a tough play he shouldve came down with but not a gimme.  each year Beane has kind of picked one position group to focus mainly on, last year was OL and it paid major dividendes, with lots of meat on the bone still

 

Did coaching get manhandled back into the QB in the clutch?  One play. Did you watch chris jones yesterday, or any other playoff stretch. the dude is maybe the best disruptor in the league for a long time now

 

Did coaching get scorched by a 34 yo tight end in single coverage?  yeah kinda. beane has handled the LBer position supremely. Bernard, when nobody on this board or league saw this coming? let tremaine walk, thats balls. milano can cook. spector, dodson, williams all showing major upside. thats 5 quality LB'ers, with 1 all-pro, and another pro bowl caliber.... at a position we only use 2 on the field, thats killer depth, not beanes fault we got gutted there

 

Was coaching incapable of winning a pass rush battle all game? when its playoff time the last few years it feels few and far between any DL has been able to get to the QB, let alone Mahomes.  Even non-mahomes guys have just been too quick at getting the ball out, neutralizing DL's pass rush.  100% of the reason im not wanting premier draft picks expended there. you acquire these guys with high picks (the kind we cant get) or high dollar FA.

 

anyone criticizing the von miller deal now is victim of MMQB. hes exactlyu what we needed, its too bad that knee biting turf in Detroit did him in, but again no way of beane knowing hed get hurt. the guy was very healthy 90% of his career, and showed a s*** ton left in the tank in Denver and LA

[BillsShredder83]

21 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Speed needs to be the focus on both sides of the ball. No more plodders 

who is a plodder on the defense, the guys weve drafted have been geared towards being smaller/quick. the only guys that didnt have speed were the older guys that have been around a while. poyer, hyde and Tre. its time to move on for sure, but i cant criticize beane for having these guys around this year. hyde was always gunna be here, poyer just kinda worked out on team friendly deal, and we needed to see what tre had after eating that bullet last year

21 hours ago, Roundybout said:

 

Just gotta hope we don't get the Quintin Johnston out of this class. 

Coleman

[Matt_In_NH]

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Sorry but this is 100% wrong.  The Bills proved this year that they have more than adequate depth.  What they need are a few more difference-makers - elite players who can win their matchups and overcome the scheme.

100%  If anything I think they prioritize depth a bit more than they need to. Not saying it is not important but they like guys with experience as depth a lot.  Veterans like David Edwards, Bates, Mancz interior OL.  Same with DT/DE lots of depth.  In fact the 52 and 53rd guy on the roster are so valuable to them they cannot waive a guy to take a chance on someone's practice squad guy for instance and there are diamonds to be found.  Other teams do it to the Bills.   I think you want a roster spot or two to churn but they have been so deep that is not possible.  They are so deep the 6 and 7 round picks mostly dont make it but they need a chance to develop in a lot of cases, not all.

[Drew21PA]

On 1/28/2024 at 3:43 PM, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

Did coaching drop a deep shot that hit a receiver in the hands? Did coaching get manhandled back into the QB in the clutch? Did coaching get scorched by a 34 yo tight end in single coverage? Was coaching incapable of winning a pass rush battle all game?

 

 

…actually that’s all coaching lol 😂 

[Logic]

I just think that having the second highest win total in the league since 2020 suggests that the Bills have a pretty darn good roster.

I don't think achieving such consistent success and racking up that many wins with a subpar roster is particularly realistic.

I agree that Brandon Beane needs to hit more home runs and less singles and doubles, and I think he'd tell you the same thing. 

For what it's worth, I think Terrel Bernard and Dalton Kincaid  both showed the potential this year to be game changing players going forward. Ed Oliver had a "game changing" type of regular season this year.

This year, the Bills were the AFC's 2-seed and two of their best defenders -- Milano and Bernard -- were injured for the Divisional round game against a team uniquely suited to take advantage of those absences. Had it not been for the Bills playing 4th and 5th string linebackers, who knows? I happen to believe they'd have beaten the Ravens yesterday, and I'd like their chances against the 49ers, too. Alas, injuries happen, the Chiefs are elite and continue to dog the Bills in the playoffs, and here we are.

Beane is good. McDermott is good. Both need to be better. I'm not convinced that GM X off the street would be any better, though it's possible he could be. In any case, it's all nothing more than a thought exercise, because Beane and McD are here to stay for at least 2024, and likely beyond that.

 

[Billsatlastin2018]

On 1/28/2024 at 3:38 PM, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

If you had to ask me to choose whether to fire beane or McDermott, I choose beane.

 

“13 Seconds & 12 Men- Your Honor! The Prosecution rests.”

 

 

[Billever76]

5 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Spending a lot of cap money on two players - White and Miller - that aren't contributing is a serious problem. 

 

This isn't McD's fault.  You could say it's Beane's fault, especially with Von.  Paying that much money for a guy in his 30s was risky.  

 

Tre is just bad luck.  

And who do you think wanted Von? Mcd wanted Von for his defense! It's what allot of defensive minded hcs do..they take draft picks and FA money from their offense and invest disproportionately into the defense

[hondo in seattle]

8 minutes ago, Billever76 said:

And who do you think wanted Von? Mcd wanted Von for his defense! It's what allot of defensive minded hcs do..they take draft picks and FA money from their offense and invest disproportionately into the defense

 

If I was a coach, I'd want Von, too.  But signing players to sensible contracts is the GM's responsibility and I hold Beane accountable for both the good & bad that's come out of Von's signing.  

 

I was iffy about Von's signing when it happened.  It wasn't that I didn't like Von as a player.  I do.  But I worried about the opportunity cost.  Who else could we have signed with that $120 million?  We have so many needs and if we hadn't sent an armored car full of cash to Von, we could have signed some real contributors. 

 

Since the signing, the deal has only looked worse with Von's injury.  Injuries to players Von's age are hardly unusual and should have been expected.  

[BuffaL0L0k0]

On 1/28/2024 at 3:03 PM, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Not to mention their defenses. 

I understand your statement now, by seeing its time stamp, which was earlier that the pont fest DET put on SFR, obviously before DET coaching had a series of brainfarts with game management... but yes! still a superior DEF to ours.

Edited January 29 by BuffaL0L0k0

[DrMaxPower]

These threads are hilarious. I'm as disappointed as anybody but reading this forum, you'd swear we were in the middle of the drought.

 

Our talent sucks, our GM is clueless, can't draft, wastes money in FA, our coaches are all incompetent, can't lead or make adjustments, etc. Yet every year, despite the incompetence of the entire organization, it's somehow a top 5 team. No, it's not all Josh. Believe it or not, it takes more than a QB.

 

It's not easy to hill climb VS a dynasty. You'd think people would have learned that from the last 20 years of Patriots dominance.

 

Everyone needs to do a better job. Coaches and front office. The hyperbolic 'everything sucks' criticism is totally over the top. The team needs incremental improvement in a couple areas and better luck.

[Nextmanup]

Biggest problem BY FAR is McDermott.

 

Has Beane made a TON of mistakes? Absolutely.

 

You could make an argument for firing the guy based purely on the Knox and Miller deals...which are cap killers and both players contribute close to ZERO to the team.

 

The idea is to get nobodies who work for cheap who prove to be great impact players flying under the radar.

 

Drafting has been pretty terrible.

 

 

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

Maybe it is. I mean, the receiving corps and the DL ( supposedly talented areas of the roster) didn’t exactly get it done vs KC.

[BananaB]

8 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Maybe it is. I mean, the receiving corps and the DL ( supposedly talented areas of the roster) didn’t exactly get it done vs KC.

I wouldn’t say the WR position is talented. There have been a lot of talk on this board for since November last season. Shakir situation, leaning in to last year makes me shake my head. McKenzie was playing terrible and despite showing flashes this staff didn’t give him extra looks.  He might not had as good of camp as his rookie season this past year but they still put him behind Sherfield and Harty from the moment they arrived.  Just makes me wonder about how they judging talent. Wyatt Teller was a huge mistake years. 

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, DrMaxPower said:

These threads are hilarious. I'm as disappointed as anybody but reading this forum, you'd swear we were in the middle of the drought.

 

Our talent sucks, our GM is clueless, can't draft, wastes money in FA, our coaches are all incompetent, can't lead or make adjustments, etc. Yet every year, despite the incompetence of the entire organization, it's somehow a top 5 team. No, it's not all Josh. Believe it or not, it takes more than a QB.

 

It's not easy to hill climb VS a dynasty. You'd think people would have learned that from the last 20 years of Patriots dominance.

 

Everyone needs to do a better job. Coaches and front office. The hyperbolic 'everything sucks' criticism is totally over the top. The team needs incremental improvement in a couple areas and better luck.

 

Thank you!

 

I had this very same thought yesterday. Watching the Chiefs win their 4th AFC Title in 5 years. Having gone to the AFC Championship game 6 years in a row. En route to possibly hoist 2 Lombardi's in a row, 3 of them in 5 years. 

 

Maybe it's not this player sucks, this coach sucks, this GM sucks, and/or we need to blow it all up. Maybe, just maybe the Chiefs are just that good.

 

Yes, it's frustrating to not slay that dragon. But it's not like we're the only one. We're just the team that gives them the most trouble. If we need to blow it up, then every team in the NFL does.

 

To beat them, we're going to have to be at our best on field and have our best players on the field.

 

We were down Matt Milano (perhaps the best true OLB in Football), Terrel Bernard, Gabe Davis, Christian Benford, Taylor Rapp, had a maybe 50% Rasul Douglas, a 3rd string MLB who was fresh off the couch (who rolled his ankle halfway through the game), and an already playing at less than 100% Tyrell Dodson who went down again at the beginning of the game and played through it because we didn't have a choice.

 

Maybe we still would have lost at full health. But against that dynasty, in the Playoffs where they're a different team? We're lucky it was as close as it was.

 

Tweak the roster. Hope for better health. But the sky is not falling. I know how disappointing it was how things ended. But many teams around the league would kill to be in the situation we're in that posters consider a total failure.

Edited January 29 by BillsFanForever19

[BananaB]

10 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Thank you!

 

I had this very same thought yesterday. Watching the Chiefs win their 4th AFC Title in 5 years. Having gone to the AFC Championship game 6 years in a row. En route to possibly hoist 2 Lombardi's in a row, 3 of them in 5 years. 

 

Maybe it's not this player sucks, this coach sucks, this GM sucks, and/or we need to blow it all up. Maybe, just maybe the Chiefs are just that good.

 

Yes, it's frustrating to not slay that dragon. But it's not like we're the only one. We're just the team that gives them the most trouble. If we need to blow it up, then every team in the NFL does.

 

To beat them, we're going to have to be at our best on field and have our best players on the field.

 

We were down Matt Milano (perhaps the best true OLB in Football), Terrel Bernard, Gabe Davis, Christian Benford, Taylor Rapp, had a maybe 50% Rasul Douglas, a 3rd string MLB who was fresh off the couch (who rolled his ankle halfway through the game), and an already playing at less than 100% Tyrell Dodson who went down again at the beginning of the game and played through it because we didn't have a choice.

 

Maybe we still would have lost at full health. But against that dynasty, in the Playoffs where they're a different team? We're lucky it was as close as it was.

 

Tweak the roster. Hope for better health. But the sky is not falling. I know how disappointing it was how things ended. But many teams around the league would kill to be in the situation posters consider a total failure.

Yeah, let’s just cross our fingers and hope for the best. The injuries are excuses at this point.  ***** they know the Chiefs well enough to have a better game plan then they did. To be honest, was the D any worse then the 13 second game when they were at full strength. McD played scared and it started with him starting Klien because he’s better between the ears the Williams. 

Edited January 29 by BananaB

[DrMaxPower]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

Biggest problem BY FAR is McDermott.

 

Has Beane made a TON of mistakes? Absolutely.

 

You could make an argument for firing the guy based purely on the Knox and Miller deals...which are cap killers and both players contribute close to ZERO to the team.

 

The idea is to get nobodies who work for cheap who prove to be great impact players flying under the radar.

 

Drafting has been pretty terrible.

 

 

 

 

 

It'd be a pretty crappy argument that ignores the overall body of work.

 

You could make a better argument that this is the 2nd best team in the league. But sure, fire all the incompetent morons.

 

[Billever76]

3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

If I was a coach, I'd want Von, too.  But signing players to sensible contracts is the GM's responsibility and I hold Beane accountable for both the good & bad that's come out of Von's signing.  

 

I was iffy about Von's signing when it happened.  It wasn't that I didn't like Von as a player.  I do.  But I worried about the opportunity cost.  Who else could we have signed with that $120 million?  We have so many needs and if we hadn't sent an armored car full of cash to Von, we could have signed some real contributors. 

 

Since the signing, the deal has only looked worse with Von's injury.  Injuries to players Von's age are hardly unusual and should have been expected.  

Hmm an aged von or hopkins,aj brown,Mike evans hell for what they gave von even devante adams....nah if I'm coach I understand we have a top 3 qb and in today's nfl with the rules favoring offense I would build the most stacked offensive roster I could 

Edited January 30 by Billever76

[McBean]

On 1/28/2024 at 2:38 PM, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

If you had to ask me to choose whether to fire beane or McDermott, I choose beane. Why? While he's overall built a competitive roster, he's utterly failed at drafting gane-changing players. 

 

You know my position on some of his picks, but ask yourself honestly: would you rather have a Metcalf or an Oliver? Basham or Humphrey? AJE or Uche? I could go on, but beane seems to prefer a whole roster of average over high ceiling guys (oddly, with the exception of the QB).

 

Also, this team lacks speed all over the field on both offense and defense, and I'd argue that the lack of speed on defense is the most notable reason why this team has failed in the postseason.

 

Lastly, beane's cap management and free agent acquisitions have been suboptimal, and the cap issues are going to do us in this coming season, I get the feeling. So, if you're asking me who's holding the bag of failure, it's Brandon Beane.

Go home, your drunk.

[97bills]

On 1/28/2024 at 2:48 PM, GunnerBill said:

Oliver. 

 

But otherwise I agree with your assessment of the major issue. Coaching isn't perfect. But we have lots of good players and not enough real top end talent. 

Chris simms has been saying this for years now!!! 

[Roundybout]

 

 

 

Ok, so we know Wood is an agent of OBD now. If he’s saying this, you can bet that’s the prevailing notion behind the scenes 

[Thrivefourfive]

On 1/28/2024 at 12:53 PM, Dr. Who said:

I think McD gets tight in big games, and that carries over to his team. I also would prefer not to be changing OC every 2 or 3 years, and that will happen whether the Bills have success or not. If it's not working, they will change, and if it is successful, your OC is going to be a HC somewhere. But I don't think McD is incapable of winning. How he wins is by having a dominant offensive juggernaut. He doesn't have a defense that shows up and stops a good offense in the post-season. He's more aggressive than Frazier, but it's a similar problem. We also don't have a big play superstar on D. Von Miller was supposed to be that guy, but injury and age derailed the plan; the gamble didn't pay off.

 

Josh Allen is a once in a lifetime gift. It's really absurd that they can't seem to figure out how much of a gift. They need to get him the best possible weapons, and that needs to be priority 1 and priority 2. And then keep building up the oline, but DT and S, which are genuine needs, are probably in the forefront of their careful souls.

 

 

Know how to stop an OC carousel — an offensive HC

[Billl]

On 1/28/2024 at 3:16 PM, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Dk wasn’t enough of a Mr September to even get his team to the playoffs 😂

He had the same stat line as Oliver last Sunday.

[Coach Tuesday]

8 hours ago, Roundybout said:

 

 

 

Ok, so we know Wood is an agent of OBD now. If he’s saying this, you can bet that’s the prevailing notion behind the scenes 

 

Ok - but what of the fact that many of us have been saying for three years what is now the “prevailing notion” at OBD?  Is that a talent issue or a front office issue?  

[Gregg]

I know the Bills have cap concerns and Beane would have to get creative, but could this be a realistic goal.

 

PFF Fantasy & Betting on X: "Michael Pittman Jr the last 3 seasons: 🔹 413 targets 🔹 15 drops Who should sign the free-agent WR? 👀 https://t.co/sQJCt3higw" / X (twitter.com)

 

Only 27 but what would he cost. Would definitely help our WR corps.

[longtimebillsfan]

16 hours ago, Billever76 said:

And who do you think wanted Von? Mcd wanted Von for his defense! It's what allot of defensive minded hcs do..they take draft picks and FA money from their offense and invest disproportionately into the defense

Defense shortcommings due to lack of talent are why the Bills gave been knocked out of the playoffs the last 4 years.

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Ok - but what of the fact that many of us have been saying for three years what is now the “prevailing notion” at OBD?  Is that a talent issue or a front office issue?  

I’ve been trying to figure out a better way to elaborate on this, but my theory is that the FO is still riding the high of 2019-2020 when they got absurd production out of low end free agent signings in Beasley and Brown and Sanders. They believe too much in what they have already and don’t want to spend a ton.