DrMaxPower

I was hoping this stuff was behind us. I won't get too worked up until I see real #s but this is a big part of why we are constantly squeezed against the cap. This guy has no potential role on defense and they need to make every dollar count given our cap situation.

Heavy sigh.... Very disappointing. Way to blow it up in the smallest way possible. I've never been more worried about Josh's Bills career being wasted. Cross my fingers and hope I guess.

This is so effing typical. The GM sits in the box watching the games with the owner. Spends all that time spinning his narrative and shifting blame while the coach is actively working and can't defend himself. 'These coaches just aren't using my players right'. With the new reporting structure this BS will be even tougher to get passed. Only Beane's story matters. For the 1st time I think there is serious risk of wasting Josh's entire Bills career. Beane has proven to be average at best and worst of all, is oblivious to his errors and the holes in the roster. Sickening thought.

It's certainly not wishful thinking. It's the last thing I want. Let's play it out. Say Beane screws up the HC pick, doesn't fix the roster or both. He's 33, staring at another rebuild with no Superbowl on his resume. If he wasn't looking for the door I'd be shocked. Why wouldn't he want to play for the Rams or Chargers? 49ers? He has a Hollywood wife and kid(s) to consider. I'm sure it will be harder to be separated once there are kids involved. If Beane succeeds, it's probably all moot. If not... This is the biggest pivot point for this franchise since they picked Josh.

The remainder of Josh Allen's Bills career is about to be decided by Brandon Beane IMO. He needs to nail the HC pick and execute a major roster repair with minimal resources. If he fails, Josh is going to be 33 when it's time to try again and I 100% believe he will be headed west at that point. He isn't going to spin his wheels in WNY his entire career, especially with family considerations. If they aren't competing for Superbowls he'll be gone. I really wish I had more faith in Beane to get it right because the stakes are enormous.

If they dumped Beane too, I'd come around fairly quickly. This is house cleaning time. Not only are they doing a half-measure, they are focusing on the wrong half. This team is capped out and untalented. How many 10s of millions have been spent on mid tier FAs that did NOTHING? How many 1st and 2nd round picks with no real impact? McD probably just coached his best season. If he has a WR corp, we are still playing. If he had something better than Savage or Jackson to turn to in the secorndary, we're still playing. Beane now holds the franchises destiny. The next few months will make or break the franchise. If they don't nail the coach, the draft and FA we are going to see Josh's entire Bills career wasted. I have no trust in Beane to do this.

Big shock - the guy who sits with the owner during the games saves his ass. This is totally backwards. Beane should have been the 1st one out the door. This roster has gotten worse for 3 straight years. Beginning of the end of the 'good years'.

If we're talking hamstrings, groins, shoulders, backs, etc I'm with you. This training staff has a lot of hard questions to answer and could/should be out after the season. Blown knees are a freak thing. There really isn't anything a training staff can do. It's not their fault a guy drove his shoulder into the side of Gabe's knee. What outrageously rotten luck. So Billsy. Reminds me of the LB injuries a couple years ago.

It's a discussion. I'm open to causes and have agreed with other posters who had potential explanations. I'm not sure why you're fixating on the after. Fringe players pushing 30 who have unproductive seasons get washed out. What they did before coming here is more relevant IMO. Palmer - had 769, 581, 584 his last 3 years before signing here. Only started 6 and 7 games last 2 years. Sitting 302 this year with the same starts MVS - seasons of 581, 452, 690, 687. Had 2 receptions in 6 games here Sherfield - 417 yards in Miami, then 11 catches in 17 games here Harty - 570 yards for the Saints, 15 catches in 16 games here Crowder - seasons of 604, 847, 789, 833, 699, 6 catches in 4 games before getting hurt Samuel - seasons of 494, 627, 851, 656, 613, 253 in 14 games last year and 81 yards in 6 games this year Over the last 4 years, Hollins is really the only guy you could point to as an exception. Every other WR I can think of did less here than they did at their prior stop and most by a huge margin. They do not get used or targeted. We should have been able to get reasonable production out of at least a couple of them. I'm sure WR coach/OC/McD have their place in the problem but so does Josh. Who says to feed them? I'd have been happy with 400-600 yards in most cases. We didn't use them for 1 reason or another. These guys all signed in Buffalo after moderate success elsewhere thinking that teaming up with Josh would lead to big numbers and a payday. The opposite has happened and I'm just asking the questions why.

OK, and the other 7 guys? It's become a consistent theme. We sign a fringe WR 2/3/4 guy who we think will take a step forward with better QB play. Almost every damn time we got less out of them than their last team.

'Per target' is kind of my point though. We don't utilize them. Josh doesn't throw to them. They aren't good but they were what we had/have. We aren't even trying to turn chicken **** into chicken salad. We're just plugging our nose and kicking it to the corner to be ignored and rolling with ole familiar.

I agree, this is part of it too. I despise the structure of the passing game. Brady does not create many easy completions.

I'm not saying they're good. I'm asking why they were better everywhere else they've played despite worse QB situations. They are nothing to write home about but they were pretty consistent 500-800 yard guys who came here and did NOTHING.

This is fair and I agree it's a big factor. I just can't get some of these plays out of my head where Josh turns up his nose at open 'new' guys and either runs or forces it to Shakir/Knox instead of the easy cheese.

I expect us to actually utilize them. I expect the passing attack to not be completely impotent with he best QB in the league. I expect receivers to not have the worst years of their career with the best QB they've played with.