DrMaxPower

I'm not convinced that teams were giving him much attention. He saw a lot of single coverage that he wouldn't break. I say wouldn't intentionally; I think it was a result of attitude/effort rather than deteriorating physical ability. I think teams saw the uninterested malcontent and treated him accordingly. He certainly wasn't seeing the coverage he did a couple years ago. I think there's a difference in perspective; I see it as needing to replace what we had on the field to end last year, not the guy who racked up 1400 yards. I think there's enough secondary options to chew into that gap in production. I still think we're going to see lots of 2 TE this year.

Haha me speak english good. More polished*, better

I like the comments on Kincaid VS Bowers. Everyone has been pumping up Bowers as the uber-prospect for 2 years but at least some people see Kincaid as the more polished, better receiver.

It's a net negative if Diggs was who he was supposed to be. Instead he was a petulant baby that quit mid season. People keep talking about the WR position with the memory of Diggs, not the guy who was actually on the field the last 10 games. The Diggs/Davis we got down the stretch will not be hard to replicate, if not surpass.

This draft was about replenishing the depth of the roster. Given the turnover and the cap situation, they needed to fill a lot of holes. They weren't wasting picks on guys iffy to make the team. I think they add a vet wr still and that's why they only picked 1. Coleman wouldn't have been my choice. Would have gone McConkey or Legette. We'll see. Pretty happy with the rest though. I could honestly see everyone (the Brit on PR) making the team, which is crazy with that many picks. Also shows how much less established the roster is vs the last few years.

Maybe you misheard... He was 1 of 15 kids. He doesnt have 15 kids.

The amount of times they failed to adjust to obviously bad alignments/formations/playcalls is really frustrating. If I can see that we're about to get blown up pre-snap from the couch without even knowing the call, Josh and/or Morse should be able to see and react. Pre-snap reads are an area Josh could still really improve.

Not sure why you keep trotting out this 'Diggs' numbers were down because he was in the slot' narrative. Slot is easier. They put him there because he couldn't get off a jam to save his life.

I think we are going to see an extremely motivated Josh Allen... He's said all the right things re: Diggs drama. Now it's time to show people who's the top dog.

Thanks for everything Stef but had to be done. The guys attitude and behavior was a black cloud hanging over the org. I figured they were stuck 1 more year due to contract. I think the fact they moved now shows how toxic things had gotten.

Look who got paid this offseason - WR, yes, but DTs and Guards. The Rams just gave 2 above average guards a combined 35m/year. Quality DTs are now well over 20m, pushing to 30. The game evolves. Interior pass rush is the best way to disrupt today's stud QB's. There is nothing wrong with taking a DT in the 1st round re: positional value. For a team like us, going DT then WR could make sense with the depth of the class. I still like WR 1st but it will depend how it all falls. Great WRs regularly come out of the 2nd round. What's the gap between WR 6 and WR 11?

Fair enough. The way I see it, they'd been playing that slow, ball control offense all game with great success. While 8 minute drives are certainly unusual, a completion to Diggs would have given them a chance to take it right to the end. I felt it was an example of not thinking the big picture, which has occurred way too often.

I really don't get how more people don't understand that mindset. It's my biggest problem with the decision making. It's like a basketball team taking their shot with 12 seconds on the clock instead of dribbling it out. That drive had 2 goals - score and leave no time for Mahomes. After masterfully chewing clock all drive they dumped the plan at the biggest moment.

I've yet to see quotes and a date for this Kyle Allen podcast. It contradicts the quote from Palmer provided by Gunner, which seems to imply they didn't spend time working together. Still, you acknowledge that Josh may have dialed back his throwing program. You acknowledge that he doesn't work out like he used to (with Josh even saying the Bills trainer disagrees with the philosophy) but deny that he's putting in less work? How do you square that circle? Maybe the people you've been around are different but in my experience 'don't want to over do it' means 'not doing more than absolutely necessary'. You post as if this was a court of law. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt. People are allowed to draw rational inferences based on the evidence available. When Josh was trying to climb the mountain and prove all the doubters wrong he put in more work. Once he'd 'arrived', I think he got comfortable. Chasing true greatness doesn't allow for that.

I don't thing you're in error. I don't recall a word about any time with Palmer last year and it certainly doesn't sound like it's on the docket for this year either. I get that the guy has been deified and 90% of the fan base will simply not accept criticism of Josh. That said, there's no dispute that he doesn't work as hard as he used to. He doesn't drill fundamentals with Palmer anymore. You never hear about workouts with his receivers. The guy has actually said that he doesn't like to 'over do it' with watching film - a euphemism for doesn't watch much at all. I don't think it's a coincidence that his best season came when he was still doing that stuff. I don't think it a coincidence that his turnovers have climbed the last couple years and he's often 'not on the same page' as his receivers. I suspect his work habits are 1 of the issues between him and Diggs - who is notorious for his efforts in the offseason. Josh is a freaky talent and a good guy. He doesn't appear to have the same drive to achieve greatness that Brady/Mahomes/Manning did. Mahomes is working with his WR (including breaking in Hollywood Brown) a month after winning another Super Bowl. Josh is on the golf course or vacationing in Europe after another disappointing ending. He's certainly not spending time getting Samuel acclimated.

As someone who played center in college, I can say this is it 100%. As great as Kelce is, he would get blown up at guard. Not enough size and power. My guards were much bigger and more powerful. I knew and read the game well. I understood flow and angles. We couldn't have traded spots. If McGovern can think the game well enough, you might have the best of both worlds.

I'm not convinced that's the case. I think his disappearing act the last half the season was more attitude than injury. I also think him going after Josh multiple times and then dodging the bullets when he no-shows in the playoffs is an awful look in the locker room.

I was just looking for this tweet... The guy can't help himself. He loves the drama. He's not an idiot; he fully understands what he's doing. He's gradually making himself more unpalatable in hopes of pushing his way out IMO. I firmly believe that the relationship between him and Josh is broken. I don't know what happened but things haven't been the same since the Bengals loss. If his contract status was different I think he'd already be gone. Instead, I think we're stuck for another year. Him still being on the team in 2025 would be shocking.

I'd consider a guy with Samuel's speed a vertical threat. That said, I do think it pins us down to a size prospect and eliminates someone like Ladd from likelihood.

Good for Dane, good for us. The guy was a good soldier. Never complained and every time he got on the field he did his job and played hard. I certainly didn't have him factoring into the comp equation but it seems like it might offset Dodson who's market is quieter than expected. I'll take a 7th rd pick like that any day.

Yeah, the opinions of the fan base don't line up with that of the leagues decision makers. People were hyper critical of Davis. It was excessive. He was a decent #2 wr and vastly outplayed his draft slot. He wasn't a top shelf #2 (aka 1b) but he wasn't paid or drafted as one. I like the signing and am good with Davis moving on. Not sure it's the upgrade many think. That comes from the draft.

Yeah, depending which WR have gone, I'd be ok with it personally. Bit of a risk but high ceiling at a priority position. I think the general concensus would heartily disagree.

When this leads to Chop Robinson rd1 this place is going nuclear...

Well shut my mouth.... in my defence, it was a lot cheaper than speculated. But still, pleasant surprise. I think this says we're down to the 1.7 signings and the draft to fill remaining gaps.

There are a couple prominent philosophies on this board that I will never understand. 1. The endless desire to convert decent corners to safety. 2. The idea that that you can just plug any UDFA into depth spots and get similar results to a multi year vet. There is a reason most of those guys washout without ever making a roster. There is a reason that EVERY team has half a dozen vets playing depth/ST roles. Expecting to hit and get contributors on your UDFA's and later round picks is a recipe for disaster. If this was a bottom dweller team undergoing a rebuild, OK. Maybe you take that chance. That is not Bills situation. They will never rebuild as long as Josh is under center. They are going to make sure to cover their butts with options. If a draft pick or UDFA outperforms him, great. If they fail to invest significantly in the draft at WR, go nuts. Anybody that thought we were going to pay 8 figures APY for the Mooneys or Samuels of the world was kidding themselves. We're shopping at the Dollar Store this year to reset the cap.