chongli Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 [Mike Francesca, for those who don't know, was the co-founder of the famous radio show Mike and the Mad Dog with Chris Russo.] 9 2 1 8 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 He is not wrong here. It is a shame that many football fans will not be able to watch the game. All playoff games should be on CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC, ESPN. 12 10 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Agreed 100% especially playoff games. NFL Idiots wonder why Millions of people illegal stream games. 8 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Here, here! I agree with Francesca! Down with streaming-only games. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Greedy is putting it lightly. Unbelievable that they're going to make people pay to watch a football game. I can remember back when HBO started to become a thing and they started charging to watch boxing matches. You could watch the same fighters on ABC every Saturday but you know, GREED. NFL's no different. Between the refs and this new thing they call streaming for cash I'm really beginning to hate the NFL with a passion. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) I watched just to see if he fell asleep during the broadcast. also he is spot on. No one should be surprised. The nfl hates their fans. NFL fans should have refused to pay for PSL's (The worst thing to ever happen to fans) but they didn't. They all get bought up (50% by brokers and businesses who then sell them for profit) and ruin the home atmospheres. The nfl long gave up caring about their fans. Now they blatantly want the young fans money. They are gearing everything towards young people who want to watch on their phone and wont blink on signing up for peacock. While at the same time the boomers who have been watching the nfl for 65 years and helped make it what it is will mostly be shut out of the game. Its the future and it is going to keep trending that way. It wont be too long before there are 10 or more games on an exclusive pay to see basis.....while they broadcast games live from argentina, saudi arabia, paris or wherever. Edited January 8 by MikePJ76 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 7 minutes ago, Gregg said: He is not wrong here. It is a shame that many football fans will not be able to watch the game. All playoff games should be on CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC, ESPN. Agree but not ESPN solo. The committee that controls ability for NFL to have a limited monopoly should look at the streaming only. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 It's 5 dollars, plus you get the royal rumble at the end of the month 🙂 5 1 4 4 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 PPV Superbowls are Goodell’s next goal. 1 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: Agree but not ESPN solo. The committee that controls ability for NFL to have a limited monopoly should look at the streaming only. They've had TNF on prime for a couple of years - why is it different for peacock to buy a game? ESPN and NFL network are in far fewer houses - so people needed to buy a streaming service to watch those too. Edited January 8 by Bleeding Bills Blue 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 There are a lot of elderly fans who will not be able to watch it. 1 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 (edited) Here is the counter-argument the NFL would use in support of paid streaming games: The difference between the past, when all games were OTA and free is they've added games on TV over the years so there didn't used-to-be: kickoff game TNF almost every week MNF double-headers some weeks 17 games a bye week, so more games can be watched many international games Thanksgiving evening game Black Friday game Christmas games some years this many Saturday games 14 playoff teams which created this extra game Compare the number of TV games to even just 10 years ago, never mind going further back. Edited January 8 by chongli 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) Actually quite despicably scrupulous. Pretty shameful IMO. People’s sport… you’ve made money from them all year long. They are your profits. Give back something as a token of gratitude. Better yet, if they want to make money pool it from the NFL funds not your consumers. Edited January 8 by BBFL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: There are a lot of elderly fans who will not be able to watch it. at least they’re kind enough to allow it to be aired OTA in the local markets!!! Heh… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBuffalo Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Everyone should be saying the same thing! Absolutely brutal. Whoever started this whole streaming/cut the cord movement should be drawn and quartered. I have never spent more money and had less ease of use or access to things I have wanted to see than the way things are right now. I miss the good ole days! Hah 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Another reason the NFL chose the KC game for Peacock is Swifties skew young, you they know how to stream. 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 13 minutes ago, Real McClappy said: Agreed 100% especially playoff games. NFL Idiots wonder why Millions of people illegal stream games. I dont even understand why they care if people use streams. I watch the commercials either way. Yeah ratings might be down but im just as likely to see an ad and buy a product. I assume that helps them set what they can sell the commercial time for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) the NFL got $110 million just for this one Peacock game. Roughly 1/9 of a billion dollars to stream 3 hours of content one time. That's incredible. There will be more exclusives next season, but luckily there's only so many choices as the broadcast partners are locked in. There will be more Peacock exclusives (many 2 regular season and 1 playoff) and probably an ESPN+ Edited January 8 by TheFunPolice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 5 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: It's 5 dollars, plus you get the royal rumble at the end of the month 🙂 It’s not about the money! There are actually people who don’t have access to streaming. Geeeez 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Exclusives are just dumb. Just have it on NBC and Peacock. Theyre minimizing their viewership numbers in attempt to steal subscribers. Just have it on both instead of pissing off so many people. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 18 minutes ago, chongli said: [Mike Francesca, for those who don't know, was the co-founder of the famous radio show Mike and the Mad Dog with Chris Russo.] No one outside those fanbases want to see either team so... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 (edited) 15 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: I watched just to see if he fell asleep during the broadcast. LOL. [Actually, he is 69, but doesn't look too bad for his age:] Edited January 8 by chongli 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 If you live out in the country where "high speed broadband!" ads are taped to telephone poles you're SOL. Ask me how I know! LOL I swear my old dial up was faster than what we have at the cabin. Luckily it's just a cabin (and the #1 reason we chose to buy our house in a populated area). We need good internet for work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 18 minutes ago, Gregg said: He is not wrong here. It is a shame that many football fans will not be able to watch the game. All playoff games should be on CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC, ESPN. Why ESPN? Many football fans will not be able to watch that game either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, chongli said: LOL. [Actually, he is 69, but doesn't look to bad for his age:] its just a long running joke. He actually fell asleep a few times when he was doing the show by himself and it was simulcast on the yes network so the video of it was funny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: the NFL got $110 million just for this one Peacock game. Roughly 1/9 of a billion dollars to stream 3 hours of content one time. That's incredible. There will be more exclusives next season, but luckily there's only so many choices as the broadcast partners are locked in. There will be more Peacock exclusives (many 2 regular season and 1 playoff) and probably an ESPN+ We don't know that yet for a fact, as certain games,including one WC game next year, are up for bid among al lthe networks. It could be CBS or FOX or Amazon. Edited January 8 by chongli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Where was his outrage a few weeks ago when the Bills game was only available via streaming? Oh, and a thought I had but it was after the game started. Set up a Zoom session with screen sharing for those that want to see the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: It’s not about the money! There are actually people who don’t have access to streaming. Geeeez I mean... you can watch peacock on a phone. More households have internet than have cable. Like everyone has a smart phone or tablet or laptop. NBA playoffs are on TNT, same with NHL and TNT/ESPN, MLB is on several channels people don't have. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, chongli said: Here is the counter-argument the NFL would use in support of paid streaming games: The difference between the past, when all games were OTA and free is they've added games on TV over the years so there didn't used-to-be: kickoff game TNF almost every week MNF double-headers some weeks 17 games a bye week, so more games can be watched many international games Thanksgiving evening game Black Friday game Christmas games some years this many Saturday games 14 playoff teams which created this extra game Compare the number of TV games to even just 10 years ago, never mind going further back. To me, the strongest argument against streaming is that the NFL has an antitrust exemption and any fiddling with the playoff schedule will make, say, the Missouri delegation in Congress take a close look at it. The NFL seems to think they can get away with it. In that list - TNF is streaming, Black Friday is streaming, the international games and Saturday games are now NFLN games. These are games nobody asked for and were sort of forced on us with the move to a 17 game schedule and this whole international series. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 It seems weird to pay for a sport that is so custom made for advertising revenue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 1 minute ago, chongli said: We don't know that yet for a fact, as certain games,including one WC game next year, are up for bid. it's incredible to me the amount of $$ to be made on one game, although I would imagine that the price for subsequent games would not be as high on a per game basis. But who knows Edited January 8 by TheFunPolice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Lots of socialists on here ha? I kid, I kid. F greed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: Why ESPN? Many football fans will not be able to watch that game either. The playoff game is being shown on ABC as well as ESPN. But normally your only recourse is to sign up for ESPN+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, Just Jack said: Where was his outrage a few weeks ago when the Bills game was only available via streaming? Oh, and a thought I had but it was after the game started. Set up a Zoom session with screen sharing for those that want to see the game. Whether we want to admit it or not, there is a big difference between a game on the Saturday night before Christmas involving Easton Stick and a playoff game involving Patrick Mahomes. Buffalo pulls strong from their own market, where the game was available free OTA. Kansas City has a larger national following... and it's a playoff game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 This reminds me: I need to go over to FinHeaven and ChiefsPlanet to see if anyone is flipping out over the Peacock game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said: I mean... you can watch peacock on a phone. More households have internet than have cable. Like everyone has a smart phone or tablet or laptop. NBA playoffs are on TNT, same with NHL and TNT/ESPN, MLB is on several channels people don't have. MLB has hurt the game with playoffs on various networks. It sucks they do it and it ruins the best part of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bill Grundy said: It seems weird to pay for a sport that is so custom made for advertising revenue That's why I don't pay for games. It's a pure double dip. Edit - Well, technically I do pay - just not the providers. Edited January 8 by BullBuchanan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 24 minutes ago, chongli said: [Mike Francesca, for those who don't know, was the co-founder of the famous radio show Mike and the Mad Dog with Chris Russo.] It's five dollars. $5 I can see it being the "ultimate slap in the face" if it were $99.99 PPV, but we are talking about five dollars... $5 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I'm as mad as anyone... and I'm looking into how to get set up for the game. NFL knows we will pay. the pandemic taught companies that people will pay a lot more than companies thought they would for stuff they really want. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 20 minutes ago, Gregg said: He is not wrong here. It is a shame that many football fans will not be able to watch the game. All playoff games should be on CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC, ESPN. Not to derail the thread, but given the cost of NFL stadiums and the current trend for the GOV to fit the bill, I think any municipality that gives tax dollars to build one should always get games played in it broadcast for free. The new stadium is using NYS tax dollars, I think every home in NYS should have free access to broadcast. If a cent of federal money goes into it then every home in the country should receive free access to the TV broadcast. If the NFL, Peacock, Youtube, owners etc. don't like it, they are welcome to build their own $1.5B stadium and play gatekeeper to the TV rights. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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