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8 minutes ago, Einstein said:

Visited the Patriots forum and they are pretty confident.

They say the Patriots have had a late season resurgence with Zappe at QB and look like a different team, winning 2 of their last 3 games.

That sounds like they're in some form of denial about doing nothing but worsening their draft picks now.

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15 hours ago, TFBillsfan said:

I’d actually like to see a combo of the passing game clicking to get a big lead and then run it down there throats the remainder of the game. 
 

It would be good to see Diggs having a bigger impact as well and getting Kincaid engaged. And please no more lateral screens to Diggs!

Brady loves the lateral wr screen as much as Dorsey loved the shotgun draw. Neither works, NFL players are too fast.  I can live with the occassional dump off over the middle or in the flat, but scrub the Diggs screen.

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3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Brady loves the lateral wr screen as much as Dorsey loved the shotgun draw. Neither works, NFL players are too fast.  I can live with the occassional dump off over the middle or in the flat, but scrub the Diggs screen.

 

I agree, I hate seeing that quick WR screen. Then again, I think Brady is using it for two reasons: one, as a substitute for a run play to try and get 4-8 yards (not necessarily to break one every time); and two, to keep the DBs from playing too far off the line in man coverage, setting up a deep ball attempt.

 

Can't really say it's working so far, by my unprofessional eyes, but I think there is some method to this madness, I just can't quite see it.

 

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The weather could be a factor.  The long-range forecast (caveat: usually not expected to be accurate this far out) is 36F, 24% chance of precipitation, and a mild breeze.  If it's just a little colder than 36F, and if Sunday is the one day out of four when a 24% chance of precipitation means it does occur, we're looking at a heavy snowfall.  34F and snowing usually means very heavy snowfall, and if it's been below freezing the night before, heavy accumulation.  

 

Maybe all-white uniforms would be best, to help the players hide from the Patriots.

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2 minutes ago, Rubes said:

 

I agree, I hate seeing that quick WR screen. Then again, I think Brady is using it for two reasons: one, as a substitute for a run play to try and get 4-8 yards (not necessarily to break one every time); and two, to keep the DBs from playing too far off the line in man coverage, setting up a deep ball attempt.

 

Can't really say it's working so far, by my unprofessional eyes, but I think there is some method to this madness, I just can't quite see it.

 

I agree he's trying to set up a bigger deep play later. The problem is we'll waste 2-3 blown-up wr screen plays to set up a play that never seems to come?  Besides Josh throws that lateral poorly.

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4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

This idiot Hans Gruber will forever be butt hurt because somewhere on his Jimmy Durante nose there's still ketchup & mustard. His incessant anti Bills takes are now officially childlike.

It’s like Skip Bayless and his ridiculous opinions on Tim Tebow and LeBron James. Once you take a position as a sports hot-taker, all you can do is to just keep digging deeper. Nick Wright has a few persistent takes, and one of them is  “Bills suck.” He can never back down. Not good for the brand.

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1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I agree he's trying to set up a bigger deep play later. The problem is we'll waste 2-3 blown-up wr screen plays to set up a play that never seems to come?  Besides Josh throws that lateral poorly.

 

Yeah, exactly. It seems like that's what he's trying to do, but I just can't see it working.

 

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6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

This idiot Hans Gruber will forever be butt hurt because somewhere on his Jimmy Durante nose there's still ketchup & mustard. His incessant anti Bills takes are now officially childlike.

Look past his rant against the Bills.  Wright is correct that that the Bills didn't blow out an opponent they were expected to.  Cowherd's defense of the Bills v Chargers is exactly right.  The Bills had a short week, lost a day due to travel, played a Chargers team that had 10 days rest, neutralized Khalil Mack, and WON.  They WON an NFL game against an NFL opponent.  

 

While the Bills have been up and down, Wright is right (haha) that the Eagles have looked bad for the last month.  The Bills had them beat, and would have put the game away in the first half were it not for Shawn Hochuli and his Eagles love (and the Bills could have won if McD had gone for it on fourth down after Allen and Davis didn't connect).  Other than that win in OT, the Eagles have sucked bad.  

 

The only team that doesn't seem to have trouble playing well every game is Baltimore.  Counting on the Ravens to have a fish fry next week, to keep the #1 seed, and put the Dolphins at risk of losing the AFCE.  

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2 minutes ago, Utah John said:

Look past his rant against the Bills.  Wright is correct that that the Bills didn't blow out an opponent they were expected to.  Cowherd's defense of the Bills v Chargers is exactly right.  The Bills had a short week, lost a day due to travel, played a Chargers team that had 10 days rest, neutralized Khalil Mack, and WON.  They WON an NFL game against an NFL opponent.  

 

While the Bills have been up and down, Wright is right (haha) that the Eagles have looked bad for the last month.  The Bills had them beat, and would have put the game away in the first half were it not for Shawn Hochuli and his Eagles love (and the Bills could have won if McD had gone for it on fourth down after Allen and Davis didn't connect).  Other than that win in OT, the Eagles have sucked bad.  

 

The only team that doesn't seem to have trouble playing well every game is Baltimore.  Counting on the Ravens to have a fish fry next week, to keep the #1 seed, and put the Dolphins at risk of losing the AFCE.  

Every team that the Bills play that are not at the top of the standings everyone expects them to blow them out, it’s not realistic in todays football. I didn’t expect a blowout and I don’t expect one this weekend. I just I expect a W. 

 

When the Bills are up against their best opponents they normally bring it. That Philly game should have ended when Brown fumbled the ball. The NFL is just *****. Ball was caught over his head and brought to his side. Oh he’s gotta make two steps is bull####, what if he was just jumping for the ball and was not running at all. Bringing it to his waist is having control of the ball. 

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I am cautiously optimistic about this game. Last week against the Chargers was a complete trap for various factors involving the Chargers (coaching change, mini-bye, one day shorter week for the Bills with long travel and the Chargers coming off an embarrassing performance) the Bills despite being on the wrong side of a three to zero turnover margin got the win.

 

This week the Bills are at home with an extra days rest playing a team with one less day off. I think the Bills will be extra motivated to possibly enter the playoffs with a win and will get a 2-4 score victory 

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Pat fans feeling pretty good about this weekend: Week 17: Pats @ Buffalo | New England Patriots Forums

 


They aren’t completely off (although their recency bias with Zappe is just fan bluster) as if the Pats can focus on shutting down Cook they may be able to frustrate the Bills. However I think the offense is not only better designed now that Joe Brady has taken over but there are a lot of places where Josh can throw the ball to that isn’t Diggs. Kincaid, Shakir, Knox and Gabe are all viable complementary pieces as are the RB’s out the backfield. 
 

If the Bills can go up two scores early and force the Pats to be one dimensional look out as it could get ugly.

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2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

As I mentioned earlier, NE is the best, by far in the league, against the run.  How the Bills and Brady handle this will be key.

Gotta go quick passes, slants, and screens. Then take your shot deep when you get a chance. You can attack the Pats in the middle of the field . 

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

I tend to agree.

 

I was actually pretty shocked by their posts.

Why would you be? What would you expect they to say? 

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1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Brady loves the lateral wr screen as much as Dorsey loved the shotgun draw. Neither works, NFL players are too fast.  I can live with the occassional dump off over the middle or in the flat, but scrub the Diggs screen.

Agreed. It works best w sherrfield or a back lined up as a WR . Sherrfield is a very poor man’s Deebo. Let him run tough and make the catch. I don’t need diggs in that play. Or if they DO do it. Have the option pass, diggs to a streaking open player. 

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4 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

I know the staggered weekend has thrown off the normal schedule routine, but I am a bit surprised at how little I am hearing about the Bills. I know that there were splashier results in more advertised games (Cowboys vs Dolphins, Ravens vs Niners) and a bigger upset (Chiefs loss) but very little about how the Bills clawed their way to the 6th seed with the potential to jump to #2.

I agree. And in the same conversation, no one is mentioning how Miami could be the 1 seed or the 6 seed…amazing how the last two weeks could shake out. 
 

3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

Weather (I know, a far way off) looks cloudy and the 30s.  Probably average wind.  Typical Buffalo winter weather.

 

As for some X's and O's, curious how Brady will consider the Bills run game.  Patriots are best in the league against the run.

Can't abandon the run but need to find a way to get production.  Could be a key to the game.

 

Shutting down the Patriots run game and then pressuring Zappe is my "I'm a fan and don't know crap) gameplan.

 

Sure would be nice to see the Bills Special Teams come and play a decent game.

Ha!

3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

As I mentioned earlier, NE is the best, by far in the league, against the run.  How the Bills and Brady handle this will be key.

What metric are you using to qualify this? 
 

they are #1 in ypc, but not in yards per game (2nd to Chicago). I wouldn’t say they are by far the best in the league.

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