Sources say ZERO PERCENT chance McD is fired

[TheFunPolice]

I kind of get it, although I question whether McDermott is the right guy going forward. 

 

There is a lot of mediocre to bad coaching in this league.

 

Also, I would be scared to death of Bienemy. That's reason enough to keep McDermott. 

 

 

[CincyBillsFan]

The reason I think this is 100% wrong is that I'm very confident that Pegula is not stupid and is fully aware of the impact of the coaching change in Indy.  They brought in an offensive minded guy with a proven track record and he has the Colts ahead of the Bills for a playoff berth with a backup QB.  I have to believe that McD must get the Bills into the playoffs to keep his job. 

[JohnNord]

3 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

I give this a lot more credibility than Benjamin Albright's Broncos-based "insider knowledge"

To be fair, Albright said the HC position would be “evaluated.”  Seems like every position is evaluated after the season.  

[mannc]

1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said:

The reason I think this is 100% wrong is that I'm very confident that Pegula is not stupid and is fully aware of the impact of the coaching change in Indy.  They brought in an offensive minded guy with a proven track record and he has the Colts ahead of the Bills for a playoff berth with a backup QB.  I have to believe that McD must get the Bills into the playoffs to keep his job. 

Yep.  So tired of the “Who are you going to replace him with?” response.  

[McDeerInTheHeadlights]

36 minutes ago, mannc said:

Yep.  So tired of the “Who are you going to replace him with?” response.  

 

The same people that are totally fine with McD's recurring blunders become the most demanding perfectionists when it comes to replacing him.

[Punching Bag]

On 12/1/2023 at 9:18 PM, Augie said:

 

All fans, including OUR fans, can have lunatic views on things. That comes with death and taxes. 

 

IT is different between fans and fanatics.  Makes sense why Fanatics advertises "fashion forward" clothes.
if this keeps up they will be advertising Bill straight jackets.

56 minutes ago, McDeerInTheHeadlights said:

 

The same people that are totally fine with McD's recurring blunders become the most demanding perfectionists when it comes to replacing him.

 

so you say roadkill.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

5 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

I kind of get it, although I question whether McDermott is the right guy going forward. 

 

There is a lot of mediocre to bad coaching in this league.

 

Also, I would be scared to death of Bienemy. That's reason enough to keep McDermott. 

 

 

If what Brady continues to show us how good of an OC he is, I fully expect him to be our HC in 2025 unless McD wins a SB in 2024. 
 

 

3 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

The reason I think this is 100% wrong is that I'm very confident that Pegula is not stupid and is fully aware of the impact of the coaching change in Indy.  They brought in an offensive minded guy with a proven track record and he has the Colts ahead of the Bills for a playoff berth with a backup QB.  I have to believe that McD must get the Bills into the playoffs to keep his job. 

I agree, it’s worded like it’s trying to hide the fact it’s all speculation. 

[Saint Doug]

2 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

The reason I think this is 100% wrong is that I'm very confident that Pegula is not stupid and is fully aware of the impact of the coaching change in Indy.  They brought in an offensive minded guy with a proven track record and he has the Colts ahead of the Bills for a playoff berth with a backup QB.  I have to believe that McD must get the Bills into the playoffs to keep his job. 

I’m not convinced of this report either. There’s a zero chance of him being fired, until he does. That’s the way these usually work. They give a vote of confidence and the next week, they’re fired. Pegulas has even done this with the Sabres. Botterill I think. If they lose 2 of the following games, which is highly likely, then I bet McDs job is in jeopardy. Maybe not fired, but there will be discussions. No longer a zero percent. 

[TheFunPolice]

the thing is... Where do you go if the team doesn't make the playoffs?

 

-OC was already fired

-ST coordinator was fired

-Frazier "took a year off" to freshen up or something that always sounded like total BS, especially when he's attending league run HC clinics for guys looking to be a HC next hiring cycle

 

Now McDermott is the DC and that isn't going well. 

 

I guess you could say it's injuries, but last year we lost Von Miller when he could actually still play in November and Micah Hyde for the season in week 2 or 3. This year we lost Tre White, Matt Milano and Daquan Jones. We replaced Jones with Joseph and 2/3 of Tre with Douglass. 

 

Injuries on D sucked but we still have the vast majority of our starters, and Douglass has already started to make plays for us. 

 

All that said, we're going to beat KC this week, then Dallas the week after, get to 8-6 and be in a prime spot for the playoffs. 

[FilthyBeast]

Saw a report earlier that Dallas is going to fire Mike McCarthy if the Cowboys don't get to the superbowl at minimum. Keep in mind that he's already been to one (and won it) with the Packers.

 

Couldn't help but think about how safe McDummy apparently is despite one single AFFCG appearance in 7 years, zero road playoff wins, etc.

 

Just goes to show the difference between organizations that actually want to win something of note vs. those that are content with a few meaningless division titles and just happy to get to the postseason.

[billsfan89]

I know there are a lot of people who hate on McD but there is no reason even if the season completely collapses to fire McD unless he completely loses the locker room. And that does not appear to be the case. The Eagles stuck with Andy Reid for many years despite playoff under-achieving because the organization knew he was a good coach and good coaches are hard to find. It was only until Reid appeared to be losing the locker room that he was let go as both parties needed a fresh start. Good organizations stick with good coaches. Not a popular opinion but I think McD deserves one more season to try to right the ship. 

[Mr. WEO]

37 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

I know there are a lot of people who hate on McD but there is no reason even if the season completely collapses to fire McD unless he completely loses the locker room. And that does not appear to be the case. The Eagles stuck with Andy Reid for many years despite playoff under-achieving because the organization knew he was a good coach and good coaches are hard to find. It was only until Reid appeared to be losing the locker room that he was let go as both parties needed a fresh start. Good organizations stick with good coaches. Not a popular opinion but I think McD deserves one more season to try to right the ship. 

 

First, people who simply want a coaching change don't "hate" McD.  

 

 

Second, the Eagles stuck with Reid for years because he got them to the Conference Championship 5 times, including 4 in a row and a win.  McD can point to 1 (one) AFCC game in his tenure with Josh Allen.

[DCofNC]

12 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Unfortunately this is the year to fire McD as his fingerprints are all over every loss and decision made this year (game plans and calls).  If they lose the next two weeks, I can see a scenario where he loses the locker room and forces Terry's hand.

 

 2024/25 I see no way with Allen that they aren't a playoff team again, but the goal is to win the Super Bowl and like others, I expect when push comes to shove McD will come up short and as long as Playoffs Pegula won't make a change. 

I fear you are spot on.  I’m going to start calling him McLewis, he’s the modern MARVel.  Mediocre by definition and yet fans refuse to acknowledge it because “it could be worse”.

[RiotAct]

5 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

I know there are a lot of people who hate on McD but there is no reason even if the season completely collapses to fire McD unless he completely loses the locker room. 

oh wow.

[HappyDays]

The Bengals backup QB beating the Jaguars, in a result that further hurts our playoff chances, pushed me over the edge. I hate that the Bills are likely to miss the playoffs but one silver lining would have been McDermott getting fired as a result. Without that, what is the point of this season? The most disappointing season of the millennium, with the Bills likely missing a shot to participate in the most wide open AFC playoffs maybe ever, and we're just gonna run it back with the same guy in charge next year? It's just hard to feel any glimmer of hope in that scenario.

[Big Blitz]

6 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

I know there are a lot of people who hate on McD but there is no reason even if the season completely collapses to fire McD unless he completely loses the locker room. And that does not appear to be the case. The Eagles stuck with Andy Reid for many years despite playoff under-achieving because the organization knew he was a good coach and good coaches are hard to find. It was only until Reid appeared to be losing the locker room that he was let go as both parties needed a fresh start. Good organizations stick with good coaches. Not a popular opinion but I think McD deserves one more season to try to right the ship. 

 

The Diggs situation isn’t red flag?

 

Players wanting to fight the Eagles loser fans?

 

The undisciplined penalties.  
 

The outrageous revolving door with assistants.  
 

Players tweeting the wrong guy was fired.  
 

Losing the locker room doesn’t have to mean the players no longer want to play hard.  
 

It could just be the message is no longer getting home.  And it’s revealed by false starts at home.  Personal fouls.  12 men on the field.  
 

 

He’s going to be running from 13 seconds forever.  
 

If you ***k up in this league or any sport, you cannot do it in the most devastating historic way imaginable.  
 

The Yankees blowing a 3-0 lead to Boston in 2004 is the only thing that comes to mind - Torre lasted 3 more seasons after that but he at least had just won multiple World Series along with most guys on that team.  It took a new manager and they won the WS in 2009.  

Edited December 5, 2023 by Big Blitz

[John from Riverside]

9 hours ago, McDeerInTheHeadlights said:

 

The same people that are totally fine with McD's recurring blunders become the most demanding perfectionists when it comes to replacing him.

If you’re not going to trade up, then why trade it all
 

People like you that just want to change for changes it could easily go south on us

[LABILLBACKER]

11 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

The reason I think this is 100% wrong is that I'm very confident that Pegula is not stupid and is fully aware of the impact of the coaching change in Indy.  They brought in an offensive minded guy with a proven track record and he has the Colts ahead of the Bills for a playoff berth with a backup QB.  I have to believe that McD must get the Bills into the playoffs to keep his job. 

The only way McD can salvage his job is to make the playoffs or promise to fully commit to the offense.  He's had 6+ years and every opportunity to do this, yet he continues to stress failed defensive moves.

[Brand J]

I’d have a completely different opinion of McD if he had the same (6-6) record with Gardner Minshew, CJ Beathard, Kenny Pickett, or whoever’s starting for the Browns these days, but he’s got Josh Allen. One of the best QBs in the league. I don’t care that McD is one of the winningest coaches in franchise history. I’ve seen his decision making in big games over the course of 7 years now and I don’t believe he has what it takes to win a SB.
 

He’s a supposed defensive mastermind, yet his defense fails time and time again to protect a lead. Would the results be different if someone like Jim Schwartz was calling the defense? I do believe so. Would the Bills be just as successful during this 6 year period with Allen at the helm if their HC was Doug Marrone, Chan Gailey, Mike Mularkey, or Gregg Williams? I do believe so. The talent on the field has overcome mediocre coaching thus far, but it can’t overcome equally talented teams with superior coaching.
 

If McD doesn’t make the playoffs, Pegula has to look elsewhere. He just has to. How many more assistants does McD get to fire before the thumb points back at him? 

[Governor]

33 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

I’d have a completely different opinion of McD if he had the same (6-6) record with Gardner Minshew, CJ Beathard, Kenny Pickett, or whoever’s starting for the Browns these days, but he’s got Josh Allen. One of the best QBs in the league. I don’t care that McD is one of the winningest coaches in franchise history. I’ve seen his decision making in big games over the course of 7 years now and I don’t believe he has what it takes to win a SB.
 

He’s a supposed defensive mastermind, yet his defense fails time and time again to protect a lead. Would the results be different if someone like Jim Schwartz was calling the defense? I do believe so. Would the Bills be just as successful during this 6 year period with Allen at the helm if their HC was Doug Marrone, Chan Gailey, Mike Mularkey, or Gregg Williams? I do believe so. The talent on the field has overcome mediocre coaching thus far, but it can’t overcome equally talented teams with superior coaching.
 

If McD doesn’t make the playoffs, Pegula has to look elsewhere. He just has to. How many more assistants does McD get to fire before the thumb points back at him? 

I would be happy if having McD as HC was a wash, but he actually makes the team a few games worse each season and his defense gets obliterated in the playoffs his entire career.

12 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

The reason I think this is 100% wrong is that I'm very confident that Pegula is not stupid and is fully aware of the impact of the coaching change in Indy.  They brought in an offensive minded guy with a proven track record and he has the Colts ahead of the Bills for a playoff berth with a backup QB.  I have to believe that McD must get the Bills into the playoffs to keep his job. 

And now there’s a race to get those offensive coaches so he better move quickly.