BillsFan619 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) I know we need to play better and the coaches need to get the best out of the players they have, but this is pretty telling to our struggles. Look at the difference between us, the Dolphins, the Chiefs and the Bengals. Hopefully we can stick around and get a couple/few players back and have a good shot come playoff time. Go Bills! -Current players on IR- 10 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $45m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- over 20% Conpared to Dolphins (12th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $8.7m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 3.97% Compared to Chiefs (9th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $6.2m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 2.9% Compared to Bengals (3rd lowest): -Current players on IR- 5 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $3m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 1.42% https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/ Edited November 12, 2023 by BillsFan619 2 3 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 I kind of thought it was bad, but this is like...real bad. Dang. I know he's not on IR, but consider Von (and his payday) as pretty much a non impact player at this point makes it even worse. 2 1 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: I know we need to play better and the coaches need to get the best out of the players they have, but this is pretty telling to our struggles. Look at the difference between us, the Dolphins, the Chiefs and the Bengals. if we can stick around and get a couple/few players back, we could have a really good shot come playoff time. Go Bills! -Current players on IR- 10 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $45m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- over 20% Conpared to Dolphins (12th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $8.7m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 3.97% Compared to Chiefs (9th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $6.2m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 2.9% Compared to Bengals (3rd lowest): -Current players on IR- 5 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $3m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 1.42% https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/ This is telling. I don’t know how much reinforcements we can expect for the defense, other than maybe Douglas and Joseph helping to make an impact. Everyone else has to step up their game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Beane’s incapacity to factor in injury proneness may be his downfall. 5 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I find it interesting you didn’t put where 10 players on IR ranks like you did with the rest? =11th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 To be fair we can put Wilson, Hurts, Mahomes, Herbert & Tua on IR. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Tre at 16.2m killed us. Jones at 8.5 Milano at 7 Knox at 6.4 (he’ll be back) Elam at 3.1 (he’ll also be back) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: I know we need to play better and the coaches need to get the best out of the players they have, but this is pretty telling to our struggles. Look at the difference between us, the Dolphins, the Chiefs and the Bengals. Hopefully we can stick around and get a couple/few players back and have a good shot come playoff time. Go Bills! -Current players on IR- 10 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $45m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- over 20% Conpared to Dolphins (12th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $8.7m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 3.97% Compared to Chiefs (9th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $6.2m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 2.9% Compared to Bengals (3rd lowest): -Current players on IR- 5 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $3m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 1.42% https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/ I have figured that was one of the issues with how this team is currently built. High cap players that spend too much time on IR, and often too much runway needed to develop drafted and UFA players on rookie deals to be solid starters. I know the narrative was that it was a testament to the team's patience getting Epenesa to a place where he was more of an impact player on the defensive line, but the team also does not get better end of that deal with a learning curve consuming much of their rookie contract. We have plugged those roles where we lack impact players with older players that are solid when healthy, but more prone to injury and have had to burn a good amount of cap to do so. Some hard decisions are going to have to be made at some point on how to best retool. And that means letting players OBD has become attached to walk if they are not exceptional players that can serve as cornerstone pieces of the puzzle. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) I would rather be lucky than good. Every season its a strange and unusual bad luck excuse with this regime. Maybe they just are unlucky. Edited November 12, 2023 by Chaos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 And this doesn't factor in Von's ineffectiveness due to injury. It's a disaster. I'm not Mr. Excuse, but this level of injury- all to the same unit no less- would be tough for anyone to overcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 27 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Tre at 16.2m killed us. Jones at 8.5 Milano at 7 Knox at 6.4 (he’ll be back) Elam at 3.1 (he’ll also be back) Here's hoping that all of the last 4 are back. That, to me, is key to the potential for winning a title this season. If we can win enough to get in the playoffs, and hopefully win the division - then we get Milano or Jones, or both, back. Could be just the boost we need to finally make a real run. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Is this worse than last year when we had Von, Hyde, Poyer, Tre, etc. all injured at various points? I know they weren't all 4 injured at the same time, but there was definitely overlap with Von + others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsFan619 said: I know we need to play better and the coaches need to get the best out of the players they have, but this is pretty telling to our struggles. Look at the difference between us, the Dolphins, the Chiefs and the Bengals. Hopefully we can stick around and get a couple/few players back and have a good shot come playoff time. Go Bills! -Current players on IR- 10 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $45m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- over 20% Conpared to Dolphins (12th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $8.7m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 3.97% Compared to Chiefs (9th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $6.2m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 2.9% Compared to Bengals (3rd lowest): -Current players on IR- 5 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $3m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 1.42% https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/ Not arguing that Bills haven’t had a series of tough injuries to top players on D. But part of this excess is due to funny cap gymnastics. For instance, tre whites cap hit is 16.2 mil, while Aaron rodgers cap hit is 8.8 mil. I think the jets made rodgers cap hit low this year by giving hin a $70 million salary next year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Charles Romes said: Beane’s incapacity to factor in injury proneness may be his downfall. is this a bad joke? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: I know we need to play better and the coaches need to get the best out of the players they have, but this is pretty telling to our struggles. Look at the difference between us, the Dolphins, the Chiefs and the Bengals. Hopefully we can stick around and get a couple/few players back and have a good shot come playoff time. Go Bills! -Current players on IR- 10 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $45m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- over 20% Conpared to Dolphins (12th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $8.7m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 3.97% Compared to Chiefs (9th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $6.2m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 2.9% Compared to Bengals (3rd lowest): -Current players on IR- 5 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $3m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 1.42% https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said: I kind of thought it was bad, but this is like...real bad. Dang. I know he's not on IR, but consider Von (and his payday) as pretty much a non impact player at this point makes it even worse. Yeah, you might as well add Von to that list. By the time Von is healthy enough to play a full season (2024), we'll be making plans to get rid of his dead cap. Burn that down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Best ability is availability as they say. Thinks time to let Hyde, poyer, and tre day go at this point and bring in two safeties at the same time this offseason like they did with poyer and Hyde. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 3 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: I know we need to play better and the coaches need to get the best out of the players they have, but this is pretty telling to our struggles. Look at the difference between us, the Dolphins, the Chiefs and the Bengals. Hopefully we can stick around and get a couple/few players back and have a good shot come playoff time. Go Bills! -Current players on IR- 10 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $45m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- over 20% Conpared to Dolphins (12th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $8.7m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 3.97% Compared to Chiefs (9th lowest): -Current players on IR- 7 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $6.2m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 2.9% Compared to Bengals (3rd lowest): -Current players on IR- 5 -Current cap dollars on IR- over $3m -Current percentage of cap money on IR- 1.42% https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/ Excuses are like buttholes. Everyone has one and they all stink. This team was broken BEFORE the injuries. The injuries just made it worse. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
145B4IDIE Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 hours ago, nedboy7 said: is this a bad joke? I read it as sarcasm, I hope I’m not dyslexic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 33 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Excuses are like buttholes. Everyone has one and they all stink. This team was broken BEFORE the injuries. The injuries just made it worse. This team was 3-1 and demolished their last 3 opponents before the injuries. They were the top defense in the league and had the second highest scoring offense. But don’t let facts get in the way of narratives 2 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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