All 90 Roster Spots Filled - Bills Current Roster Heading to Camp

[BillsFanForever19]

With yesterday's additions of Dean Marlowe and Joel Wilson, all 90 roster spots have been filled. If there are further additions, it will require someone being released. 

 

As it stands now, here is our roster heading into Training Camp:

 

QB:
Josh Allen #17 
Kyle Allen #9
Matt Barkley #5

 

RB:
James Cook #4
Damien Harris #22
Nyheim Hines #0
Latavius Murray #28
Jordan Mims #35
Isaiah Bowser #38
-
Reggie Gilliam #41

 

WR:
Stefon Diggs #14
Gabe Davis #13
Deonte Harty #11
Khalil Shakir #10
Trent Sherfield #16
Justin Shorter #18
KeeSean Johnson #81
Dezmon Patmon #19
Isaiah Coulter #82
Jalen Wayne #87
Braydon Johnson #15
Tyrell Shavers #80
Bryan Thompson #89

 

TE: 
Dalton Kincaid #86
Dawson Knox #88
Quintin Morris #85
Zach Davidson #84
Joel Wilson #48

 

OL:
Dion Dawkins #73
Connor McGovern #66
Mitch Morse #60
O'Cyrus Torrence #64
Spencer Brown #79
-
Ryan Bates #71
David Quessenberry #77
David Edwards #
Tommy Doyle #72
Ike Boettger #65
Nick Broeker #67
Richard Gouraige #75
Greg Mancz #62
Kevin Jarvis #63
Alec Anderson #70
Ryan Van Demark #74

 

DE: 
Von Miller #40
Greg Rousseau #50
Shaq Lawson #90
A.J. Epenesa #57
Carlos Basham Jr. #55
Shane Ray #56
Kingsley Jonathan #59
Kameron Cline #
Kendal Vickers #93

 

DT:
Ed Oliver #91
DaQuan Jones #92
Poona Ford #98
Jordan Phillips #97
Tim Settle #99
Brandin Bryant #93
DJ Dale #61
Eli Ankou #51
Cortez Broughton #94

 

LB:
Matt Milano #58
Terrel Bernard #43
Dorian Williams #42
A.J. Klein #54
Tyrel Dodson #53
Tyler Matakevitch #44
Baylon Spector #54
Travin Howard #45

 

CB:
Tre'Davious White #27
Kaiir Elam #24
Dane Jackson #39
Taron Johnson #7
Christian Benford #47
Siran Neal #33
Cam Lewis #39
Alex Austin #29
Ja'Marcus Ingram #46
Kyler McMichael #31

 

S:
Jordan Poyer #21
Micah Hyde #23
Taylor Rapp #20
Damar Hamlin #3
Dean Marlowe #31
Zayne Anderson #38
Jared Mayden #36

 

ST:
Tyler Bass #2
Sam Martin #8
Reid Ferguson #69

[LeGOATski]

The LB corps  looks so weak outside Milano. It's the only huge question mark for me.

[Dave_Bills]

DE still makes me nervous. We need a healthy Von and Rousseau to take another step. 
 

Having Ford in the middle will help the pass rush but a lot of “show me” guys

[BillsFanForever19]

11 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

The LB corps  looks so weak outside Milano. It's the only huge question mark for me.

 

It's how Beane wants it. After spending a 3rd on Bernard last season and him being brought along slowly as a Rookie, he wants to give him every opportunity to win the job and validate his investment.

 

But he also covered his bases in case he can't. In the event he can't, he brought back A.J. Klein (as well as Tyrel Dodson) as steady veteran insurance. Also drafting Dorian Williams as further insurance, or at the very least depth at both MLB and OLB.

 

Taylor Rapp will also surely be deployed further upfield in some packages and McDermott will scheme around the MLB position.

 

I find it funny how (not necessarily saying you) some fans spent all of the past few years saying Edmunds was "just a guy" or a liability and we couldn't get any worse. Now everyone's stressed about the shape of MLB now that he's gone.

Edited May 24, 2023 by BillsFanForever19

[Snappysnackcakes]

13 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

It's how Beane wants it. After spending a 3rd on Bernard last season and him being brought along slowly as a Rookie, he wants to give him every opportunity to win the job and validate his investment.

 

But he also covered his bases in case he can't. In the event he can't, he brought back A.J. Klein (as well as Tyrel Dodson) as steady veteran insurance. Also drafting Dorian Williams as further insurance, or at the very least depth at both MLB and OLB.

 

Taylor Rapp will also surely be deployed further upfield in some packages and McDermott will scheme around the MLB position.

 

I find it funny how (not necessarily saying you) some fans spent all of the past few years saying Edmunds was "just a guy" or a liability and we couldn't get any worse. Now everyone's stressed about the shape of MLB now that he's gone.

Edmunds is switching to weak side in Chicago. He’s not a MLB. We key-holed him at Mike. I’m curious to see what he does at Will because that’s his (more) natural fit. He’s terrible at reads and can be looked off by 4th string QBs over the middle. He’s also not a leader, which is almost a demand as a NFL MLB. I know I will not miss him as he has been the single most divisive player on the team that I can recall. Nobody ever says “The most popular guy on the team is the backup Mike…”, right? Well this guy, through his frustrating waste of god-given talent, had me on the ropes, clamoring for Tyrel freakin Dodson to come in and fill the right gap. 

[KingBoots8]

Way too early roster predictions. Bold makes the 53, italics PS:
 

QB:
Josh Allen #17 
Kyle Allen #9
Matt Barkley #5

 

RB:
James Cook #4
Damien Harris #22
Nyheim Hines #0
Latavius Murray #28
Isaiah Bowser #38
-
Reggie Gilliam #41

 

WR:
Stefon Diggs #14
Gabe Davis #13
Deonte Harty #11
Khalil Shakir #10
Trent Sherfield #16
Justin Shorter #18
KeeSean Johnson #81
Tyrell Shavers #80
 

 

TE: 
Dalton Kincaid #86
Dawson Knox #88
Quintin Morris #85
 

 

OL:
Dion Dawkins #73
Connor McGovern #66
Mitch Morse #60
O'Cyrus Torrence #64
Spencer Brown #79
-
Ryan Bates #71
David Quessenberry #77
David Edwards #
Tommy Doyle #72
Ike Boettger #65
Nick Broeker #67
Richard Gouraige #75
 

 

DE: 
Von Miller #40
Greg Rousseau #50
Shaq Lawson #90
A.J. Epenesa #57
Carlos Basham Jr. #55
Shane Ray #56
 

 

DT:
Ed Oliver #91
DaQuan Jones #92
Poona Ford #98
Jordan Phillips #97
Tim Settle #99
Brandin Bryant #93
DJ Dale # 61
 

 

LB:
Matt Milano #58
Terrel Bernard #43
Dorian Williams #42
A.J. Klein #54
Tyrel Dodson #53
Tyler Matakevitch #44
Baylon Spector #54
 

 

CB:
Tre'Davious White #27
Kaiir Elam #24
Dane Jackson #39
Taron Johnson #7
Christian Benford #47
Siran Neal #33
Cam Lewis #39
Alex Austin #29

 

S:
Jordan Poyer #21
Micah Hyde #23
Taylor Rapp #20
Damar Hamlin #3
Dean Marlowe #31
Zayne Anderson #38

 

ST:

Tyler Bass #2
Sam Martin #8
Reid Ferguson #69

[Paul Costa]

5 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:

Way too early roster predictions. Bold makes the 53, italics PS:
 

QB:
Josh Allen #17 
Kyle Allen #9
Matt Barkley #5

 

RB:
James Cook #4
Damien Harris #22
Nyheim Hines #0
Latavius Murray #28
Isaiah Bowser #38
-
Reggie Gilliam #41

 

WR:
Stefon Diggs #14
Gabe Davis #13
Deonte Harty #11
Khalil Shakir #10
Trent Sherfield #16
Justin Shorter #18
KeeSean Johnson #81
Tyrell Shavers #80
 

 

TE: 
Dalton Kincaid #86
Dawson Knox #88
Quintin Morris #85
 

 

OL:
Dion Dawkins #73
Connor McGovern #66
Mitch Morse #60
O'Cyrus Torrence #64
Spencer Brown #79
-
Ryan Bates #71
David Quessenberry #77
David Edwards #
Tommy Doyle #72
Ike Boettger #65
Nick Broeker #67
Richard Gouraige #75
 

 

DE: 
Von Miller #40
Greg Rousseau #50
Shaq Lawson #90
A.J. Epenesa #57
Carlos Basham Jr. #55
Shane Ray #56
 

 

DT:
Ed Oliver #91
DaQuan Jones #92
Poona Ford #98
Jordan Phillips #97
Tim Settle #99
Brandin Bryant #93
DJ Dale # 61
 

 

LB:
Matt Milano #58
Terrel Bernard #43
Dorian Williams #42
A.J. Klein #54
Tyrel Dodson #53
Tyler Matakevitch #44
Baylon Spector #54
 

 

CB:
Tre'Davious White #27
Kaiir Elam #24
Dane Jackson #39
Taron Johnson #7
Christian Benford #47
Siran Neal #33
Cam Lewis #39
Alex Austin #29

 

S:
Jordan Poyer #21
Micah Hyde #23
Taylor Rapp #20
Damar Hamlin #3
Dean Marlowe #31
Zayne Anderson #38

 

ST:

Tyler Bass #2
Sam Martin #8
Reid Ferguson #69

I think Doyle,Von & Phillips all start on PUP. I think Ike or Broeker  make 53. I think Ray or a FA DE make 53. Dean Marlowe won’t make 53. Another Wr could be added 😉. 

[LABILLBACKER]

47 minutes ago, Dave_Bills said:

DE still makes me nervous. We need a healthy Von and Rousseau to take another step. 
 

Having Ford in the middle will help the pass rush but a lot of “show me” guys

Yeah once Von exited last season the remaining cast of characters simply disappeared.  After Milano, someone must step up as our #2 LB.  No clue who that's going to be. We'll see if Gabe becomes "contract year" motivated?

[LABILLBACKER]

18 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:

Way too early roster predictions. Bold makes the 53, italics PS:
 

QB:
Josh Allen #17 
Kyle Allen #9
Matt Barkley #5

 

RB:
James Cook #4
Damien Harris #22
Nyheim Hines #0
Latavius Murray #28
Isaiah Bowser #38
-
Reggie Gilliam #41

 

WR:
Stefon Diggs #14
Gabe Davis #13
Deonte Harty #11
Khalil Shakir #10
Trent Sherfield #16
Justin Shorter #18
KeeSean Johnson #81
Tyrell Shavers #80
 

 

TE: 
Dalton Kincaid #86
Dawson Knox #88
Quintin Morris #85
 

 

OL:
Dion Dawkins #73
Connor McGovern #66
Mitch Morse #60
O'Cyrus Torrence #64
Spencer Brown #79
-
Ryan Bates #71
David Quessenberry #77
David Edwards #
Tommy Doyle #72
Ike Boettger #65
Nick Broeker #67
Richard Gouraige #75
 

 

DE: 
Von Miller #40
Greg Rousseau #50
Shaq Lawson #90
A.J. Epenesa #57
Carlos Basham Jr. #55
Shane Ray #56
 

 

DT:
Ed Oliver #91
DaQuan Jones #92
Poona Ford #98
Jordan Phillips #97
Tim Settle #99
Brandin Bryant #93
DJ Dale # 61
 

 

LB:
Matt Milano #58
Terrel Bernard #43
Dorian Williams #42
A.J. Klein #54
Tyrel Dodson #53
Tyler Matakevitch #44
Baylon Spector #54
 

 

CB:
Tre'Davious White #27
Kaiir Elam #24
Dane Jackson #39
Taron Johnson #7
Christian Benford #47
Siran Neal #33
Cam Lewis #39
Alex Austin #29

 

S:
Jordan Poyer #21
Micah Hyde #23
Taylor Rapp #20
Damar Hamlin #3
Dean Marlowe #31
Zayne Anderson #38

 

ST:

Tyler Bass #2
Sam Martin #8
Reid Ferguson #69

Spot on. I wouldn't mind Ray replacing Boogie.

[BillsFanForever19]

2 hours ago, KingBoots8 said:

Way too early roster predictions. Bold makes the 53, italics PS:
 

QB:
Josh Allen #17 
Kyle Allen #9
Matt Barkley #5

 

RB:
James Cook #4
Damien Harris #22
Nyheim Hines #0
Latavius Murray #28
Isaiah Bowser #38
-
Reggie Gilliam #41

 

WR:
Stefon Diggs #14
Gabe Davis #13
Deonte Harty #11
Khalil Shakir #10
Trent Sherfield #16
Justin Shorter #18
KeeSean Johnson #81
Tyrell Shavers #80
 

 

TE: 
Dalton Kincaid #86
Dawson Knox #88
Quintin Morris #85
 

 

OL:
Dion Dawkins #73
Connor McGovern #66
Mitch Morse #60
O'Cyrus Torrence #64
Spencer Brown #79
-
Ryan Bates #71
David Quessenberry #77
David Edwards #
Tommy Doyle #72
Ike Boettger #65
Nick Broeker #67
Richard Gouraige #75
 

 

DE: 
Von Miller #40
Greg Rousseau #50
Shaq Lawson #90
A.J. Epenesa #57
Carlos Basham Jr. #55
Shane Ray #56
 

 

DT:
Ed Oliver #91
DaQuan Jones #92
Poona Ford #98
Jordan Phillips #97
Tim Settle #99
Brandin Bryant #93
DJ Dale # 61
 

 

LB:
Matt Milano #58
Terrel Bernard #43
Dorian Williams #42
A.J. Klein #54
Tyrel Dodson #53
Tyler Matakevitch #44
Baylon Spector #54
 

 

CB:
Tre'Davious White #27
Kaiir Elam #24
Dane Jackson #39
Taron Johnson #7
Christian Benford #47
Siran Neal #33
Cam Lewis #39
Alex Austin #29

 

S:
Jordan Poyer #21
Micah Hyde #23
Taylor Rapp #20
Damar Hamlin #3
Dean Marlowe #31
Zayne Anderson #38

 

ST:

Tyler Bass #2
Sam Martin #8
Reid Ferguson #69

 

I have it the exact same way on the 53, but with a 9th OL (either Broeker or Boettger) instead of a 5th Safety.

 

Either Hamlin is ready and Marlowe goes to the PS or Hamlin isn't, he goes to a designated list, and Marlowe is the 4th Safety. 5 Safeties for 2 positions and 8 OL for 5 positions doesn't add up to me.

 

For the Practice Squad, Doyle will go to PUP instead opening up a spot for Zach Davidson. I also like Jordan Mims over Isaiah Bowser and Jalen Wayne over one of the WR's. But we'll have to wait to the Pre-Season to see that play out.

 

2 hours ago, Paul Costa said:

I think Doyle,Von & Phillips all start on PUP. I think Ike or Broeker  make 53. I think Ray or a FA DE make 53. Dean Marlowe won’t make 53. Another Wr could be added 😉. 

 

Doyle will go to PUP. Phillips had rotator cuff surgery at the end of February. At most, he'll need 6 months. He'll be ready for the start of the year.

 

Von will not go to PUP. His ACL injury and surgery were not to the full extent of Tre's. He and Beane have said on multiple occasions that they expect to have him for up to the entire year. Von has said at most he'll miss a game or two. Their moves or lack thereof at the position go hand in hand with those sentiments. There's no way they're going to shut him down until Week 7 at the minimum.

Edited May 24, 2023 by BillsFanForever19

[ProcessTruster]

10 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

It's how Beane wants it. After spending a 3rd on Bernard last season and him being brought along slowly as a Rookie, he wants to give him every opportunity to win the job and validate his investment.

 

But he also covered his bases in case he can't. In the event he can't, he brought back A.J. Klein (as well as Tyrel Dodson) as steady veteran insurance. Also drafting Dorian Williams as further insurance, or at the very least depth at both MLB and OLB.

 

Taylor Rapp will also surely be deployed further upfield in some packages and McDermott will scheme around the MLB position.

 

I find it funny how (not necessarily saying you) some fans spent all of the past few years saying Edmunds was "just a guy" or a liability and we couldn't get any worse. Now everyone's stressed about the shape of MLB now that he's gone.

I'm not.  Just get someone in there who can cover.   Against the top 5 teams, Josh will need to score 40+ even if f-ing Dick Butkus was MLB.   Glad the offense is far better this year.  

[KingBoots8]

9 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I have it the exact same way on the 53, but with a 9th OL (either Broeker or Boettger) instead of a 5th Safety.

 

Either Hamlin is ready and Marlowe goes to the PS or Hamlin isn't, he goes to a designated list, and Marlowe is the 4th Safety. 5 Safeties for 2 positions and 8 OL for 5 positions doesn't add up to me.

 

For the Practice Squad, Doyle will go to PUP instead opening up a spot for Zach Davidson. I also like Jordan Mims over Isaiah Bowser and Jalen Wayne over one of the WR's. But we'll have to wait to the Pre-Season to see that play out.

 

I was really torn about the OL. I remember that they traded to get Marlowe last year, plus just signing him, makes me think he makes the roster. I do also agree that there will be some shuffling at the beginning of the year with the PUP and other potential injuries, so there’s definitely room to work around that.

 

I had a few UDFA guys come in and show enough to make the cut. Mims is likely to make the PS over Bowser but I thought maybe with them signing him so soon into Rookie Tryouts that maybe he really showed something, so I gave him the nod. Same with Wayne vs Johnson. I’ve got a funny feeling Shavers makes it regardless.

 

If there are any other surprise signings or trades this changes things, but overall I like the roster. LB is our weakest position I think.

[GunnerBill]

10 hours ago, Snappysnackcakes said:

Edmunds is switching to weak side in Chicago. He’s not a MLB. We key-holed him at Mike. I’m curious to see what he does at Will because that’s his (more) natural fit. He’s terrible at reads and can be looked off by 4th string QBs over the middle. He’s also not a leader, which is almost a demand as a NFL MLB. I know I will not miss him as he has been the single most divisive player on the team that I can recall. Nobody ever says “The most popular guy on the team is the backup Mike…”, right? Well this guy, through his frustrating waste of god-given talent, had me on the ropes, clamoring for Tyrel freakin Dodson to come in and fill the right gap. 

 

Who has told you he is switching to the WILL in Chicago. That's not my understanding.

[Manther]

11 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

The LB corps  looks so weak outside Milano. It's the only huge question mark for me.

I think LB will be fine and hopefully I am right.  It could easily be the weak link.  Looking at the CB's was what looks like the biggest, glaring need to me, but, could be fine.  Overall, I think Beane did a fantastic job on this roster and it is the best it has ever been (no pun intended).

 

I think we have a strong roster with question marks at LB, CB and OL.  Injuries could speed up the question marks.  

 

We have been above average health wise with the Beane/McDermott era with the exception of last year.  I am hoping to get back to the above average health years.

[Manther]

10 hours ago, KingBoots8 said:

Way too early roster predictions. Bold makes the 53, italics PS:
 

QB:
Josh Allen #17 
Kyle Allen #9
Matt Barkley #5

 

RB:
James Cook #4
Damien Harris #22
Nyheim Hines #0
Latavius Murray #28
Isaiah Bowser #38
-
Reggie Gilliam #41

 

WR:
Stefon Diggs #14
Gabe Davis #13
Deonte Harty #11
Khalil Shakir #10
Trent Sherfield #16
Justin Shorter #18
KeeSean Johnson #81
Tyrell Shavers #80
 

 

TE: 
Dalton Kincaid #86
Dawson Knox #88
Quintin Morris #85
 

 

OL:
Dion Dawkins #73
Connor McGovern #66
Mitch Morse #60
O'Cyrus Torrence #64
Spencer Brown #79
-
Ryan Bates #71
David Quessenberry #77
David Edwards #
Tommy Doyle #72
Ike Boettger #65
Nick Broeker #67
Richard Gouraige #75
 

 

DE: 
Von Miller #40
Greg Rousseau #50
Shaq Lawson #90
A.J. Epenesa #57
Carlos Basham Jr. #55
Shane Ray #56
 

 

DT:
Ed Oliver #91
DaQuan Jones #92
Poona Ford #98
Jordan Phillips #97
Tim Settle #99
Brandin Bryant #93
DJ Dale # 61
 

 

LB:
Matt Milano #58
Terrel Bernard #43
Dorian Williams #42
A.J. Klein #54
Tyrel Dodson #53
Tyler Matakevitch #44
Baylon Spector #54
 

 

CB:
Tre'Davious White #27
Kaiir Elam #24
Dane Jackson #39
Taron Johnson #7
Christian Benford #47
Siran Neal #33
Cam Lewis #39
Alex Austin #29

 

S:
Jordan Poyer #21
Micah Hyde #23
Taylor Rapp #20
Damar Hamlin #3
Dean Marlowe #31
Zayne Anderson #38

 

ST:

Tyler Bass #2
Sam Martin #8
Reid Ferguson #69

Overall, I agree without digging deep.  I think we take another OL to make 9 and not sure on who the cut would be.  Time, camp, injuries up to the beginning of the season usually sort out the bottom of the roster.

 

Some thoughts in no particular order...

 

- Hamlin ok to play?  Marlowe I like, but, the Bills didn't dress him or play him much last year.  4 or 5 safeties?  With LB a question mark, we could roll with 5 safeties

- if Settle doesn't show better in camp does he deserve a roster spot?  With Phillips injury history, probably need to keep Settle

- if the young kids show well on ST's do we cut Neal or Matakevitch?  Neal frees up a decent amount of cap to use to plug a hole we discover before the season starts.  Neal can also help with the LB issue due to Nickel

- Benford to safety?  We will see as the off season progresses.  That changes the CB and S rooms

- 9 OL minimum, maybe 10

- Quinton Morris should make the roster.  I don't know why we didn't use him more last year

[DCbillsfan]

11 hours ago, Paul Costa said:

I think Doyle,Von & Phillips all start on PUP. I think Ike or Broeker  make 53. I think Ray or a FA DE make 53. Dean Marlowe won’t make 53. Another Wr could be added 😉. 

Agree on your PUP list.  I believe they will keep Morris as TE3.

[Manther]

10 hours ago, Paul Costa said:

I think Doyle,Von & Phillips all start on PUP. I think Ike or Broeker  make 53. I think Ray or a FA DE make 53. Dean Marlowe won’t make 53. Another Wr could be added 😉. 

I think and hope Ray or another FA DE makes the 53.  Ray on the PS would also mean he had a good camp and could be serviceable.  I think Siran Neal's cap hit and roster spot will go to the DL at some point before the season starts.  If he is on the team, fine.  If not we have upgraded our roster.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

11 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

It's how Beane wants it. After spending a 3rd on Bernard last season and him being brought along slowly as a Rookie, he wants to give him every opportunity to win the job and validate his investment.

 

But he also covered his bases in case he can't. In the event he can't, he brought back A.J. Klein (as well as Tyrel Dodson) as steady veteran insurance. Also drafting Dorian Williams as further insurance, or at the very least depth at both MLB and OLB.

 

Taylor Rapp will also surely be deployed further upfield in some packages and McDermott will scheme around the MLB position.

 

I find it funny how (not necessarily saying you) some fans spent all of the past few years saying Edmunds was "just a guy" or a liability and we couldn't get any worse. Now everyone's stressed about the shape of MLB now that he's gone.

 

I expect us to blitz a bit more, and show more double a gap pressures and actually bring some heat.  

[SoCal Deek]

The roster looks pretty deep across the board to me. But I have to say it’s odd not seeing either Singletary or Edmunds names amongst the 90. 

[Simon Says]

I think this camp roster is top heavy at DLine. I would like to see a 4th QB ,maybe another TE. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

[Chandler#81]

This is unusual.  I’d hate to be 88-90th guys. Keep your suitcase packed, fellas.

[The Jokeman]

32 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

WR looks pretty questionable… banking on some “what ifs” to come through…. Guess I’m in the minority but I’m not worried whatsoever about LB.

Henry and Sheffield are NFL caliber depth based on the production they had with New Orleans and Miami respectively.

[BuffaloBillyG]

13 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

With yesterday's additions of Dean Marlowe and Joel Wilson, all 90 roster spots have been filled. If there are further additions, it will require someone being released. 

 

As it stands now, here is our roster heading into Training Camp:

 

QB:
Josh Allen #17 
Kyle Allen #9
Matt Barkley #5

 

RB:
James Cook #4
Damien Harris #22
Nyheim Hines #0
Latavius Murray #28
Jordan Mims #35
Isaiah Bowser #38
-
Reggie Gilliam #41

 

WR:
Stefon Diggs #14
Gabe Davis #13
Deonte Harty #11
Khalil Shakir #10
Trent Sherfield #16
Justin Shorter #18
KeeSean Johnson #81
Dezmon Patmon #19
Isaiah Coulter #82
Jalen Wayne #87
Braydon Johnson #15
Tyrell Shavers #80
Bryan Thompson #89

 

TE: 
Dalton Kincaid #86
Dawson Knox #88
Quintin Morris #85
Zach Davidson #84
Joel Wilson #48

 

OL:
Dion Dawkins #73
Connor McGovern #66
Mitch Morse #60
O'Cyrus Torrence #64
Spencer Brown #79
-
Ryan Bates #71
David Quessenberry #77
David Edwards #
Tommy Doyle #72
Ike Boettger #65
Nick Broeker #67
Richard Gouraige #75
Greg Mancz #62
Kevin Jarvis #63
Alec Anderson #70
Ryan Van Demark #74

 

DE: 
Von Miller #40
Greg Rousseau #50
Shaq Lawson #90
A.J. Epenesa #57
Carlos Basham Jr. #55
Shane Ray #56
Kingsley Jonathan #59
Kameron Cline #
Kendal Vickers #93

 

DT:
Ed Oliver #91
DaQuan Jones #92
Poona Ford #98
Jordan Phillips #97
Tim Settle #99
Brandin Bryant #93
DJ Dale #61
Eli Ankou #51
Cortez Broughton #94

 

LB:
Matt Milano #58
Terrel Bernard #43
Dorian Williams #42
A.J. Klein #54
Tyrel Dodson #53
Tyler Matakevitch #44
Baylon Spector #54
Travin Howard #45

 

CB:
Tre'Davious White #27
Kaiir Elam #24
Dane Jackson #39
Taron Johnson #7
Christian Benford #47
Siran Neal #33
Cam Lewis #39
Alex Austin #29
Ja'Marcus Ingram #46
Kyler McMichael #31

 

S:
Jordan Poyer #21
Micah Hyde #23
Taylor Rapp #20
Damar Hamlin #3
Dean Marlowe #31
Zayne Anderson #38
Jared Mayden #36

 

ST:
Tyler Bass #2
Sam Martin #8
Reid Ferguson #69

A LOT of really good camp battles this year IMO not only for a few starting spots but the end of roster battle should prove heated as well.

 

QB: Pretty much what you see will be what you get. Unless Kyle Allen falls on his face he's the back up. Bills COULD keep Barkley on active roster due to new emergency QB rule but I don't see it.

 

RB: I would say Cook is the only "lock" in this room with Hines, Harris and Murray close to it. Maybe one of the young backs surprises and makes it interesting...but I feel like they are playing for a PS spot.

 

WR: Diggs and Davis are locked. Sherfield seems to have made an early impression on Josh based on yesterday's presser. Shakir seems safe and Harty likely makes it. Shorter seems to have an inside track to a spot. That's 6 with the rest of the guys battling for PS or a possible 7th WR spot.

 

TE: Obviously Knox and Kincaid are locked. Morris has a good shot to make it or a PS spot. Don't see the others as more than camp bodies...but they may push Morris.

 

OL: Room looks MUCH deeper than last year. Lots of ways this could go. Dawkins, Torrence, McGovern and Brown seem to be locks. Morse as well, however if Torrence AND Edwards show up well...could it push the Bills to slide Bates to Center, trade Morse and save about $10M off the cap? Most likely not, however the room is deep with guys The Bills like. Doyle, Ike, Q...I expect one of these guys traded late in the preseason for a late round pick. Beane LOVES to do that if he can.

 

DE: Von and Groot are locked...but Von could possibly start on the PUP giving the Bills an extra spot. I see it as AJE, Basham, Lawson and Shane Ray competing for 2 spots maybe 3. 

 

DT: Oliver, Ford and Jones are likely in. Settle and Phillips may be challenged by Bryant or Ankou. 

 

LB: THE competition of this preseason IMO. Any one of about 5 guys may step up and ***** that MLB spot. Milano and Williams are the only guaranteed guys that make the roster with Dodson maybe the next most likely.

 

CB: White, Elam, Jackson, Johnson and Benford all should make the cut. Neal is likely as well due to ST play. Yes, the Bills will keep some ST players. Every team needs em. 

 

S: Suddenly a deep room filled with competition. Poyer and Hyde-locks. Rapp very likely is in. 2 wild cards here are- Hamlin and his health and if he plays the way he did or plays timid. And Zayne Anderson. Very solid STer that could push someone like Neal for his roster spot potentially.

 

The ST unit remains intact.

 

All in all I have 35 guys as "roster locks" and another 12-14 as "almost locks". We are going to be letting some good football players hit waivers for sure. Deep rosters have that issue. Hopefully we land a bunch back on our PS.

 

[RoyBatty is alive]

13 hours ago, Snappysnackcakes said:

Edmunds is switching to weak side in Chicago. He’s not a MLB. We key-holed him at Mike. I’m curious to see what he does at Will because that’s his (more) natural fit. He’s terrible at reads and can be looked off by 4th string QBs over the middle. He’s also not a leader, which is almost a demand as a NFL MLB. I know I will not miss him as he has been the single most divisive player on the team that I can recall. Nobody ever says “The most popular guy on the team is the backup Mike…”, right? Well this guy, through his frustrating waste of god-given talent, had me on the ropes, clamoring for Tyrel freakin Dodson to come in and fill the right gap. 

Is that a fact he is switching or is that your forecast/speculation.

[LabattBlue]

Did the Bills have a 2nd punter and kicker in for training camp last year…just to keep Martin and Bass from wearing out ?

[RoyBatty is alive]

17 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Did the Bills have a 2nd punter and kicker in for training camp last year…just to keep Martin and Bass from wearing out ?

Yes they had two punters, we let Haack go and kept Araiza then about three days later the feces hit the fan on the Punt God but Haack was already gone.

Edited May 24, 2023 by RoyBatty is alive

[LabattBlue]

1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Yes they had two punters, we let Haack go and kept Araiza then about three days later the feces hit the fan on the Punt God but Haack was already gone.

I wonder if at some point they plan on bringing a 2nd kicker and punter in for camp this year. 

[The Jokeman]

11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Harty has potential when healthy… he can’t stay healthy. Sheffield is a scrub/JAG. Surprised so many are so high on him. 

Sherfield can play ST and contribute as a WR which is more than we can say of most of the WRs we had last year as seems like we had guys who could play WR but not ST or just play ST and not WR. Is he a top end guy? No, but he's a more complete player than we've had recently when came to 4th or 5th on the depth chart which to me a plus. 

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

A couple of weeks ago, I spent some time with a friend of mine that works in the NFL (not the Bills).  He had some interesting takes on some of the Bills recent personnel moves.  He believes McGovern was a steal and will prove to be a solid player for the Bills.  He also could not believe that Torrence fell to the Bills in round two.  He compared him to Ruben Brown.  He also liked the addition of Sherfield, Harty, and Shorter.  Overall, he thought Beane had done an excellent job and that the team was better than the 2022 version.  He believes that Hyde and a healthy White are the real difference makers that allow the Bills to do much of what makes their defense very good.

 

He talked a little bit about the AFC East.  According to him, the JESTS are much over rated by a New York driven sports media that is desperate for some degree of relevance.  He believes that Rodgers is pretty much at the end and they gave up way too much for him for what may turn out to be a one year shot.  He thinks Miami will be decent but will continue to struggle with road games.  He's not convinced that Tua can remain healthy enough to carry the team for multiple seasons.  All he said about NE was that they are a joke.

 

He also said that Frazier was shown the door and that some in the Bills front office wanted him gone after the 13 seconds in KC.

 

After our talk, I felt better about some of the things that Beane had done.

 

 

[John from Riverside]

Are all of those older veteran defensive ends still available on the market?

[MasterStrategist]

15 minutes ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

A couple of weeks ago, I spent some time with a friend of mine that works in the NFL (not the Bills).  He had some interesting takes on some of the Bills recent personnel moves.  He believes McGovern was a steal and will prove to be a solid player for the Bills.  He also could not believe that Torrence fell to the Bills in round two.  He compared him to Ruben Brown.  He also liked the addition of Sherfield, Harty, and Shorter.  Overall, he thought Beane had done an excellent job and that the team was better than the 2022 version.  He believes that Hyde and a healthy White are the real difference makers that allow the Bills to do much of what makes their defense very good.

 

He talked a little bit about the AFC East.  According to him, the JESTS are much over rated by a New York driven sports media that is desperate for some degree of relevance.  He believes that Rodgers is pretty much at the end and they gave up way too much for him for what may turn out to be a one year shot.  He thinks Miami will be decent but will continue to struggle with road games.  He's not convinced that Tua can remain healthy enough to carry the team for multiple seasons.  All he said about NE was that they are a joke.

 

He also said that Frazier was shown the door and that some in the Bills front office wanted him gone after the 13 seconds in KC.

 

After our talk, I felt better about some of the things that Beane had done.

 

 

Thansk for sharing, that's great information!

 

My biggest concerns from 2021 and 2022 have been addressed, and hopefully pan out:

1. Interior OL

2. Def playcalling/style

3. Lack of middle field weapons/YAC guys

4. Def line

 

And agree about our division, I think it will be weaker than much of the media is predicting.  Similar to the Afc west last season.  

 

Spot on about Hyde and Tre.  I'm also bullish on our young DEs taking a big step forward.

[Simon Says]

18 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

The LB corps  looks so weak outside Milano. It's the only huge question mark for me.

Depends on how McDermott uses them. Won't necessarily look the same after Edmunds left.

1 hour ago, MasterStrategist said:

Thansk for sharing, that's great information!

 

My biggest concerns from 2021 and 2022 have been addressed, and hopefully pan out:

1. Interior OL

2. Def playcalling/style

3. Lack of middle field weapons/YAC guys

4. Def line

 

And agree about our division, I think it will be weaker than much of the media is predicting.  Similar to the Afc west last season.  

 

Spot on about Hyde and Tre.  I'm also bullish on our young DEs taking a big step forward.

I'm concerned about how they fill in Miller's spot,if only temporarily. 

[Simon Says]

4 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

A LOT of really good camp battles this year IMO not only for a few starting spots but the end of roster battle should prove heated as well.

 

QB: Pretty much what you see will be what you get. Unless Kyle Allen falls on his face he's the back up. Bills COULD keep Barkley on active roster due to new emergency QB rule but I don't see it.

 

RB: I would say Cook is the only "lock" in this room with Hines, Harris and Murray close to it. Maybe one of the young backs surprises and makes it interesting...but I feel like they are playing for a PS spot.

 

WR: Diggs and Davis are locked. Sherfield seems to have made an early impression on Josh based on yesterday's presser. Shakir seems safe and Harty likely makes it. Shorter seems to have an inside track to a spot. That's 6 with the rest of the guys battling for PS or a possible 7th WR spot.

 

TE: Obviously Knox and Kincaid are locked. Morris has a good shot to make it or a PS spot. Don't see the others as more than camp bodies...but they may push Morris.

 

OL: Room looks MUCH deeper than last year. Lots of ways this could go. Dawkins, Torrence, McGovern and Brown seem to be locks. Morse as well, however if Torrence AND Edwards show up well...could it push the Bills to slide Bates to Center, trade Morse and save about $10M off the cap? Most likely not, however the room is deep with guys The Bills like. Doyle, Ike, Q...I expect one of these guys traded late in the preseason for a late round pick. Beane LOVES to do that if he can.

 

DE: Von and Groot are locked...but Von could possibly start on the PUP giving the Bills an extra spot. I see it as AJE, Basham, Lawson and Shane Ray competing for 2 spots maybe 3. 

 

DT: Oliver, Ford and Jones are likely in. Settle and Phillips may be challenged by Bryant or Ankou. 

 

LB: THE competition of this preseason IMO. Any one of about 5 guys may step up and ***** that MLB spot. Milano and Williams are the only guaranteed guys that make the roster with Dodson maybe the next most likely.

 

CB: White, Elam, Jackson, Johnson and Benford all should make the cut. Neal is likely as well due to ST play. Yes, the Bills will keep some ST players. Every team needs em. 

 

S: Suddenly a deep room filled with competition. Poyer and Hyde-locks. Rapp very likely is in. 2 wild cards here are- Hamlin and his health and if he plays the way he did or plays timid. And Zayne Anderson. Very solid STer that could push someone like Neal for his roster spot potentially.

 

The ST unit remains intact.

 

All in all I have 35 guys as "roster locks" and another 12-14 as "almost locks". We are going to be letting some good football players hit waivers for sure. Deep rosters have that issue. Hopefully we land a bunch back on our PS.

 

Trading Morse does NOT save 10 million,even if you COULD convince another team to trade.  His salary is closer to 6,and the dead cap for him would be 8 -something. He and Josh have several years together  and Morse played well last year. He isnt going anywhere. 

[GunnerBill]

6 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

WR looks pretty questionable… banking on some “what ifs” to come through…. Guess I’m in the minority but I’m not worried whatsoever about LB.

 

To an extent that is true at WR but I feel a hell of a lot better about it than I did this time last year when we were one injury away (and it happened in week 2) from Jake Kumerow starting actual NFL football games as an outside receiver. That is the currently unsigned Jake Kumerow. Harty and Sherfield would still be downgrades if they were starting outside but they are at least bona fide NFL depth receivers. Kumerow wasn't even really that.

[BillsFanForever19]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Are all of those older veteran defensive ends still available on the market?

 

They are. But we don't have the money. Beane said he tried to get a DE in here post Draft but couldn't do it. Reportedly we offered an incentive laden deal to Yannick Ngakoue and he passed on it. I'm sure he offered the same deal to others as well.

 

When that didn't happen, he first put in a claim for Kameron Cline. Then he gave Shane Ray a tryout and signed him after he liked what he saw. After that and bringing back Shaq Lawson previously in the Offseason, I don't expect any other moves. We have 9 DE's on the roster already. 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

They are. But we don't have the money. Beane said he tried to get a DE in here post Draft but couldn't do it. Reportedly we offered an incentive laden deal to Yannick Ngakoue and he passed on it. I'm sure he offered the same deal to others as well.

 

When that didn't happen, he first put in a claim for Kameron Cline. Then he gave Shane Ray a tryout and signed him after he liked what he saw. After that and bringing back Shaq Lawson previously in the Offseason, I don't expect any other moves. We have 9 DE's on the roster already. 

 

No more moves before camp. I wouldn't be stunned if we added one of those vets on the eve of camp. 

[MasterStrategist]

44 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

They are. But we don't have the money. Beane said he tried to get a DE in here post Draft but couldn't do it. Reportedly we offered an incentive laden deal to Yannick Ngakoue and he passed on it. I'm sure he offered the same deal to others as well.

 

When that didn't happen, he first put in a claim for Kameron Cline. Then he gave Shane Ray a tryout and signed him after he liked what he saw. After that and bringing back Shaq Lawson previously in the Offseason, I don't expect any other moves. We have 9 DE's on the roster already. 

💯

 

DE is a luxury at this point.   When we have three young, highly drafted players and a very high priced FA...fans need to grasp that's a premium investment.  Yes, maybe whiffed on Aje and Boogie some, but they still have some potential and young. And we don't have the $$$s, as you said, to keep spending.

 

Like you mentioned, we filled a potential "Von missed time" with some low cost moves.  

 

Not unheard for 3rd and 4th year players to make a significant leap forward at DE.  On top of this, I have less concern bc I have faith Sean will be more aggressive with blitzing/simulated sugar A-gap looks/nickle blitzes.   

 

A healthy Tre and Hyde, allow us to bring more pressure/simulated looks.  If they're both back to form, we are in good shape in general.  Elam/Benford should take a step forward too, if one of them develops into a high-end starter then that's even more coverage flexibility (less need for high priced DEs)

[Snappysnackcakes]

6 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Is that a fact he is switching or is that your forecast/speculation.

https://theathletic.com/4305440/2023/03/13/bears-tremaine-edwards-free-agency-fit/?amp=1
 

Athletic article.

 

Just now, Snappysnackcakes said:

https://theathletic.com/4305440/2023/03/13/bears-tremaine-edwards-free-agency-fit/?amp=1
 

Athletic article.

 

I wouldn’t speculate that out to everyone. 

[BearNorth]

5 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Harty has potential when healthy… he can’t stay healthy. Sheffield is a scrub/JAG. Surprised so many are so high on him. 

I can see if Kincaid develops quickly enough running a bunch of 12 personnel, with the wrinkle that Kincaid becomes a "Big" slot mismatch, and many of the Slot corners in the league are smallish.  Apparently he played a lot in the slot in college.