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Possible McKenzie Replacement Bills sign Deonte Harty (formally Deonte Harris)


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3 minutes ago, NewEra said:


People may remember when we signed Beasley, his advanced stats with Dallas were great though a much bigger sample size. Seems they are searching for a similar hit with Harty where he can be successful with increased volume. Let’s hope it works out as well again

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Hopefully our incredible training facility (it really is top notch) can fix some of the injury issues he's had.

 

Injury History

 

2019 - Harris missed 2 games with a hamstring injury.

2020 - Harris suffered a hamstring injury and missed 3 games (IR).

2021 - Harris suffered a hamstring injury in Week five’s game vs. Washington and missed 3 games.

2022 - Harris injured toe and missed 12 games (IR).

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29 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

"The Best Ability is Availability"

Hardy has played in 14, 9, 13, and 4 games

Same stretch McKenzie has played in 15, 16, 15, and 15 games.

 

If the Bills intended to cut McKenzie this spring, it's surprising to me that they haven't already done it so he could be on the market during the first burst of FA.  That would be the usual courtesy to a guy who has gone hard for them: give him the maximum chance to get out there, but perhaps "things have changed"

 

Hardy has been most active as a KR/PR

 

 

McKenzie has not only played in a lot of games he made an impact in practices emulating opposing players and he even played defense one game when Bills were trying to rest DBs.  His play won us a playoff game.


I do not understand this at all. Bills have KR/PR and this is far too much money for him despite "market".  Deshaun Watson was paid far more than market but this does not make it a good deal.  Bills should have learned last year that they may need more money than they planned with unexpected injuries.

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4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I would really like to know how many WR in UFA are 6'2 ad run 4.3s?  And could they be had for 3.75M?

 

It's DJ Chark only. But he will be more than 3.75 for sure. 

 

And Robbie Anderson. Who is still probably more than 3.75. 

 

Breshad Perriman maybe? 

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3 minutes ago, Einstein said:

Hopefully our incredible training facility (it really is top notch) can fix some of the injury issues he's had.

 

Injury History

 

2019 - Harris missed 2 games with a hamstring injury.

2020 - Harris suffered a hamstring injury and missed 3 games (IR).

2021 - Harris suffered a hamstring injury in Week five’s game vs. Washington and missed 3 games.

2022 - Harris injured toe and missed 12 games (IR).

Jeez...  This is not a good look at all! very curious signing indeed... First blush: Poor.

 

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2 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

McKenzie has not only played in a lot of games he made an impact in practices emulating opposing players and he even played defense one game when Bills were trying to rest DBs.  His play won us a playoff game.


I do not understand this at all. Bills have KR/PR and this is far too much money for him despite "market".  Deshaun Watson was paid far more than market but this does not make it a good deal.  Bills should have learned last year that they may need more money than they planned with unexpected injuries.

Yea not interested in a player worth as a scout team decoy player 

 

I want speed , yac and TDs, explosive plays 

 

unfortunately he’s small and has been banged up. Just have to hit on these under the radar players. Just like draft

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Just now, MrEpsYtown said:

 

It's DJ Chark only. But he will be more than 3.75 for sure. 

 

And Robbie Anderson. Who is still probably more than 3.75. 

Would you trade Gabe Davis if you get a deal done with Chark given where our WRs currently sit?  I think I would 

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3 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

McKenzie has not only played in a lot of games he made an impact in practices emulating opposing players and he even played defense one game when Bills were trying to rest DBs.  His play won us a playoff game.


I do not understand this at all. Bills have KR/PR and this is far too much money for him despite "market".  Deshaun Watson was paid far more than market but this does not make it a good deal.  Bills should have learned last year that they may need more money than they planned with unexpected injuries.

 

I think he's being brought in to be our slot, as well as returning.

 

He checks a lot of boxes:  gets great separation, great hands, great YAC, stretches the field.  Those are all things we're lacking.

 

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Just now, balln said:

Yea not interested in a player worth as a scout team decoy player 

 

I want speed , yac and TDs, explosive plays 

 

unfortunately he’s small and has been banged up. Just have to hit on these under the radar players. Just like draft

Now please look at Milanos INJ History, Morses (before Buffalo).

 

Those are mostly soft tissue and bills hyper focused on those so no issue for me

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36 minutes ago, SCBills said:


Maybe I’m wrong, but if this means McKenzie gets cut … just view this move as replacing 2.5M McKenzie with 3.7M Harty.  
 

Bills paying an extra 1M for a guy they think could boom in our offense.   McKenzie had his chance and it didn’t exactly work out. 
 

If they don’t address WR2, then my entire view of this signing changes.  However, I think we will. 

 

Agree with you on WR2.  But honestly, everyone was just talking about Kumerow replacing McKenzie.  

 

Seems like a lot of money for what he could bring but hasn't shown the ability to in the NFL in four seasons to date.  So he was injured last season, but in his third, not rookie or second season, in his third season he had 36 catches for 570 and 3 TDs, on a team absolutely starving for WR-ing talent.  Of his three TDs, one was a garbage-time TD in a loss and another the fifth TD in a 38-3 blowout.  Doesn't exactly spell out Mr. Clutch here.  LOL 

 

Even if he matches that here, it seems like a whole lot of money.  He did next to nothing in his first two seasons.  

 

Seems like a typical Beane reach to me.  Again, I'm guessing he's trying to redeem himself for letting Hodgins go and thinks he found the Hodgins equivalent in NO.  

 

Like everything, we'll see.  ....  LOL  

 

 

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4 minutes ago, NewEra said:


Yours is a very shallow opinion.  He was injured last season.  The previous season, he was VERY good in several metrics.  Top 5 WR good.  No, he’s not a top 5 WR, not even close, but he can we worth the money we paid him if used properly.

 

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/platform/amp/2022/2/17/22938420/deonte-harty-had-an-ultra-efficient-season

 

I'm not saying he can't help us. I was just saying it's not a contradiction to beg for a playmaker yet not be overly enthused by this move. This isn't the type of "playmaker" we had in mind when making those comments. We meant a true game breaking playmaker (which may not even be available). 

 

I think if most of us are being honest, we all knew very little about this guy before today. Now everyone is scrounging up links trying to prove that it was a magnificent signing. 

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Just now, MAJBobby said:

Would you trade Gabe Davis if you get a deal done with Chark given where our WRs currently sit?  I think I would 

 

I would 100%. He is not a contested catch guy, though he looks the part. I would just sign Beckham honestly. He isn't 6-2 either. 

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11 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Didnt need to read this far to know youre clueless, but it certainly reinforced it lol please tell me one thing these two have in common other than position

 

ill anxiously await your breath taking knowledge lol

 

LOL, ... the overreactions to this signing are hilarious.  

 

 

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17 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

Go to a lot of Assumption Greyhound games in 2018 did ya.  You must live int he Worcester area.  

 

Dude had 751 yards playing for Assumption in his last season there.  LOL   I'll give it to ya, he did post great games against St. Anselm, Bentley, and American International College.  Not much different the year prior where he posted great games against Findley and Merrimack.  

 

It's the Northeast 10 Conference, that I'd never even heard about.  Not exactly the SEC.  Just sayin'.  I hope he had some great moments.  

 

 

I work for a competing college, he burned us every time, couldn’t be covered 

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1 hour ago, NewEra said:

He is tiny.  He’s so electric though.  Not many slots have the juice to take a 5 yard slant the distance.  He does.  
 

We paid him more than I thought he’d get paid but mainly because he was out of sight and mind last year as he missed the seasons with turf toe.  Every time I’ve watched him play, he impressed me and left me thinking I’d like this guy on the Bills.
 

he’s a high risk (due to size), high reward (due to speed) player who’s contract won’t hurt us going forward (if he doesn’t work out).  
 

if he hits his incentives and makes the full amount…..then he produced.

Not slamming the signing, but he didn’t do anything against the Bills on Thanksgiving in 2021… having Trevor Siemian at QB probably didn’t help.

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10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I would really like to know how many WR in UFA are 6'2 ad run 4.3s?  And could they be had for 3.75M?

Any WR that doesn’t sign with Buffalo. 
 

I don’t normally disclose my sources, but my source in this case is TBD. 

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