Reed83HOF Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 1 minute ago, NickelCity said: Jeudy or Sutton and a top IOL in Rd1 would suit me fine. Not sure top iol in rd1 lines up well with Kromers type of IOL players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 5 hours ago, msw2112 said: I haven't seen much out of Jeudy at Denver, but playing opposite Diggs, with Allen as his QB, could really help Jeudy unleash the talent he showed in college at Bama. I'd give some serious thought to trading one of the Bills' higher picks for Jeudy, if Denver is shopping him. You haven’t seen much of Jeudy because he is the new Jamison Crowder. Out for the season week 2 every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: You haven’t seen much of Jeudy because he is the new Jamison Crowder. Out for the season week 2 every year. 16, 10, 15 Games played each year. What am I missing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, BillsFan2313 said: 16, 10, 15 Games played each year. What am I missing Production And the slow post injury ramp ups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Can’t blame Jeudy much with the QBs he’s had those 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Why would Payton get rid of Wilson's top 2 WRs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: Why would Payton get rid of Wilson's top 2 WRs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLaw Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, NewEra said: It’s over the top- we aren’t making the cap room for hopkins or Obj- maybe jeudy— you want a splash and won’t be content until Beane goes completely all in (that’s what a hopkins trade would be unless he took a major pay cut). He’s already moved a lot of money down the road and will continue to do so year after year. But I doubt you’ll ever see him cripple his ability to move money around. A hopkins trade would likely do just that. obj is smoking crack- he might deserve 7M per year on a one year deal. jeudy- makes sense- but you can’t say the offseason is a failure because a GM fails to acquire the one guy that would fit your criteria. It’s a poor WR class- it’s bad luck- but possibly compromising the future to fill a need is a mistake imo. I think a 2nd rd WR + Harty as the main additions at WR is solid considering what was available and what we paid for them without compromising the future. Sure adding jeudy would be great, but a 2nd round WR could be similarly productive- let’s not act like Jeudy has been a star. Addison 💯 Flowers- not 💯 but would be on board if he’s the pick. Yea… if that’s the case then they shouldn’t have resigned Poyer… I’ve said I think adding a 1B reciever opposite Diggs is the most important piece to the offseason. It’s early obviously, but I still think it’s what they need to get over the top. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, SCBills said: It’s about making sure Josh Allen has an offense around him that is commensurate to Burrow and Mahomes. Right now, he doesn’t. Plain and simple. Mahomes, as of today, has a good OL, Kelce and then 3 WR2/3 types in MVS, Moore and Toney. Burrow has a solid OL, Chase, Higgins and Boyd. We hope McGovern can help elevate the level of the OL to solid. It was bad last year. Knox is good, Diggs is elite.. and then we have a WR2/3 in Davis and some potential in Shakir & Harty. If we go into the draft, as is, we’re.. once again.. hoping a WR falls to us. How did that work out last year? 27 is a long time to wait. No. It’s about winning the Super Bowl. That can be done many ways when constructing a roster. The best roster offense doesn’t always win the Super Bowl. That’s not how it works every year. Coaching, defense, injuries, refs, STs. Lots goes into it. We’ll NEVER be able to give Josh was Mahomes has until Reid is out the door. trading away all of our future assets in order to have a better offensive roster than KC and Cinci is reckless. you act like trading up for a WR will automatically give us a better offense than Cinci and KC. Some see it the opposite. That trading down and accumulating more picks give us more weapons and OL. Trading up would only subtract a potential starter giving Josh less. we can improve our offense in a multitude of ways- not just the way you feel is best 13 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Yea… if that’s the case then they shouldn’t have resigned Poyer… I’ve said I think adding a 1B reciever opposite Diggs is the most important piece to the offseason. It’s early obviously, but I still think it’s what they need to get over the top. Trading for hopkins isn’t the same amount of money as trading for Hopkins bro. so because we can’t trade for Poyer, we can’t spend money on d. that makes no sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLaw Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 27 minutes ago, NewEra said: No. It’s about winning the Super Bowl. That can be done many ways when constructing a roster. The best roster offense doesn’t always win the Super Bowl. That’s not how it works every year. Coaching, defense, injuries, refs, STs. Lots goes into it. We’ll NEVER be able to give Josh was Mahomes has until Reid is out the door. trading away all of our future assets in order to have a better offensive roster than KC and Cinci is reckless. you act like trading up for a WR will automatically give us a better offense than Cinci and KC. Some see it the opposite. That trading down and accumulating more picks give us more weapons and OL. Trading up would only subtract a potential starter giving Josh less. we can improve our offense in a multitude of ways- not just the way you feel is best Trading for hopkins isn’t the same amount of money as trading for Hopkins bro. so because we can’t trade for Poyer, we can’t spend money on d. that makes no sense I think you mean trading for Jeudy isn’t the same as trading for Hopkins… yea, I’m aware. Jeudy makes a lot more sense…. And OBJ make sense as well… Not of fan of resigning Poyer if it means we can’t afford a 1B reciever opposite Diggs…. Would be just more of the same IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I think you mean trading for Jeudy isn’t the same as trading for Hopkins… yea, I’m aware. Jeudy makes a lot more sense…. And OBJ make sense as well… Not of fan of resigning Poyer if it means we can’t afford a 1B reciever opposite Diggs…. Would be just more of the same IMO. The WR might just have to be WR2. The chiefs didn’t have a WR1b they had a handful of solid WRs and Kelce- I think we can win with a handful of solid WRs and Diggs. What matters much more than getting a 1b compared to a 2 is Ken Dorsey making good progress as an OC, Spencer Brown + Bates+ McGovern improving and staying healthy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 15 minutes ago, NewEra said: The WR might just have to be WR2. The chiefs didn’t have a WR1b they had a handful of solid WRs and Kelce- I think we can win with a handful of solid WRs and Diggs. What matters much more than getting a 1b compared to a 2 is Ken Dorsey making good progress as an OC, Spencer Brown + Bates+ McGovern improving and staying healthy. Your bolded statement could be correct, but it’s full of contingencies … “if” this and this and this happens. We want them to be proactive in finding solutions. I think most GM’s would take Kelce, MVS, Hardman, Juju, Toney & Moore over what we provided Allen with last year.. that doesn’t even factor in the vast OL difference. Edited March 16 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, SCBills said: Your bolded statement could be correct, but it’s full of contingencies … “if” this and this and this happens. We want them to be proactive in finding solutions. I think most GM’s would take Kelce, MVS, Toney, Juju, Toney & Moore over what we provided Allen with last year.. that doesn’t even factor in the vast OL difference. And your only play, getting a 1B, is also an if…. It’ll be worth it IF we win the Super Bowl. And that still wouldn’t prove that we couldn’t have won without a 1b. Mahomes did. I feel we can. More so, even if we get a 1b, we’ll still need a combination of the same “ifs” to occur to win. If Dorsey sucks, we’re in trouble. If the OL sucks- 1b isn’t likely to change things that drastically imo. If both Dorsey and the OL suck (again) we’re screwed no matter regardless of 1b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLaw Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, NewEra said: The WR might just have to be WR2. The chiefs didn’t have a WR1b they had a handful of solid WRs and Kelce- I think we can win with a handful of solid WRs and Diggs. What matters much more than getting a 1b compared to a 2 is Ken Dorsey making good progress as an OC, Spencer Brown + Bates+ McGovern improving and staying healthy. The Chiefs have had a head and shoulders better offensive line than us the last two years…. The bengals took one of the worst offensive lines in the league and have made it arguably the best in two off seasons now by signing Brown…. and in exchange let many of their defensive pieces walk… meanwhile the Bills offensive line has been poor since 2020 and McBeane continuously try and patch the holes with a washed Saffold and now a rotational starter in McGovern while bringing back special teams and defensive pieces… just completely different mindsets between the Bills and the Bengals/Chiefs… It’s an arms race that McBeane have a hard time wrapping their head around. They need a dynamic 1B opposite Diggs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, NewEra said: The WR might just have to be WR2. The chiefs didn’t have a WR1b they had a handful of solid WRs and Kelce- I think we can win with a handful of solid WRs and Diggs. What matters much more than getting a 1b compared to a 2 is Ken Dorsey making good progress as an OC, Spencer Brown + Bates+ McGovern improving and staying healthy. Still need another alpha type receiver. Diggs is too easily taken out of big games and the supporting cast just isn't strong enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 According to Spotrac - he has a $300,000 roster bonus due on 3/17. They could save $2.5 million by releasing him. So I'd imagine if he isn't released today, he'll probably be here. Gotta imagine that's what he means by "clock is ticking". https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/isaiah-mckenzie-21914/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 8 hours ago, NewEra said: The WR might just have to be WR2. The chiefs didn’t have a WR1b they had a handful of solid WRs and Kelce- I think we can win with a handful of solid WRs and Diggs. I disagree here. Kelce always gets open. He makes big plays. That is why KC can run with no "WR1b and a handful of solid WRs". Kelce fills the role of WR1 or WR1b. The Bills do not get anywhere near the level of play from their TEs to come close to Kelce. I'm not knocking Knox as i think he has developed into a good player, but he isn't near Kelce's level. The Bills have had Diggs and a "handful of solid WRs" during Diggs time here, and we haven't got to the promised land yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, loyal2dagame said: I disagree here. Kelce always gets open. He makes big plays. That is why KC can run with no "WR1b and a handful of solid WRs". Kelce fills the role of WR1 or WR1b. The Bills do not get anywhere near the level of play from their TEs to come close to Kelce. I'm not knocking Knox as i think he has developed into a good player, but he isn't near Kelce's level. The Bills have had Diggs and a "handful of solid WRs" during Diggs time here, and we haven't got to the promised land yet. Can't get to a Kelce level when you have to help block all the time.😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 13 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: You haven’t seen much of Jeudy because he is the new Jamison Crowder. Out for the season week 2 every year. Yeah I'm not interested in Jeudy. Especially for a 1st or 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Yeah I'm not interested in Jeudy. Especially for a 1st or 2nd. I can get behind a lower pick because of his past profile and the lowered risk. Let’s face it, these highly touted Bama receivers…..and players in general….sometimes hit but most of them bust and Jeudy looks more like a bust at this point…..I wouldn’t say it is 100% decided yet. I guess I’d actually prefer him to Beckham due to cost and Hopkins due to him being toast but Waller went for a third, Gilmore for a 5th. Because some people get hyperactive on a message board, he is supposedly worth a first? Shirley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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