MrEpsYtown Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: Haha. Good point. So lll be as literal as I can be since the internet doesn't like when people post using language that one would speak if they were talking with a friend. Last year there was a Big problem in the Bills defense. That problem was that the middle of the field was exposed (is it ok to say) very often. So perhaps this year having a less than desirable replacement for Edmonds might hurt the Bills even more, given that many believe Edmonds to be an elite athlete. Yeah I get ya. I just, dont want it to turn into a Tremaine bashing post, but all I heard was that he took away the middle of the field. But he didn’t. At all. Ever. He was terrible at that. And just because he is tall or whatever doesn’t mean he did those things. Maybe we can get Dikembe Mutumbo to stand at Mike y’know. And I am being half facetious, and half kinda factual. So I think there could be some dropoff in play there, but with Hyde back and hopefully a better pass rush, we don’t get exposed in that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea they tried different things to replace Edmunds. But I am not out on them deciding Bernard is an option. The bar is set pretty low for Bernard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, Draconator said: Did I miss something on Bernard last year on how a 3rd round pick gets so much hate? We didn't see that much from him. I say plug him in and give him a shot. He could surprise a lot of people. You missed him sucking. 1 3 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, Draconator said: Did I miss something on Bernard last year on how a 3rd round pick gets so much hate? We didn't see that much from him. I say plug him in and give him a shot. He could surprise a lot of people. I vaguely remember something about him or maybe the other LBer pick not meeting expectations in preseason or something but I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 WR...MLB...RB... I am just amazed that we have not at least added a starter at one of the positions above through free agency. Extremely frustrating. Whatever/whoever we are counting on getting in the draft, that plan better work out, because this could get ugly fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 58 minutes ago, Gregg said: I thought #27 would be OL but now it may MLB. Chiefs signed LB Drue Tranquill, formerly of the Chargers, to a one-year contract. Tranquill was a part-time player for the Chargers for three years but stepped into a larger role for the 2022 season. He started all but one game for LA last year and his numbers exploded. He led the Chargers in tackles while totaling five sacks plus 10 TFLs. He also forced a fumble and picked off one pass. Pro Football Focus graded Tranquill as one of the league's best inside linebackers in pass-rush and coverage situations. He should slot into a starting role for Kansas City in 2023. maybe we will be getting this level of productivity out of one of our former backups this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I vaguely remember something about him or maybe the other LBer pick not meeting expectations in preseason or something but I'm not sure. He will have a full year under his belt. We could see a whole lot of improvement. Championships are not won in the pre-season unless you're the Dolphins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Tranquill and Mike Edwards were typical good signings by Veach - low-cost young vets who can be plugged into Spags’ multiple defense and add immediate value. It is no coincidence that the two teams ahead of the Bills in the AFC have flexible defensive strategies and have succeeded in filling value holes in free agency. The Bills run a rigid defense requiring great safety play and specific types of players, and they have SUCKED at finding value in free agency under Beane, forcing them to chase in the draft. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chaos said: Chiefs signed LB Drue Tranquill, formerly of the Chargers, to a one-year contract. Tranquill was a part-time player for the Chargers for three years but stepped into a larger role for the 2022 season. He started all but one game for LA last year and his numbers exploded. He led the Chargers in tackles while totaling five sacks plus 10 TFLs. He also forced a fumble and picked off one pass. Pro Football Focus graded Tranquill as one of the league's best inside linebackers in pass-rush and coverage situations. He should slot into a starting role for Kansas City in 2023. maybe we will be getting this level of productivity out of one of our former backups this year. Bolton and Tranquill is a sweet combo for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, BobBelcher said: WR...MLB...RB... I am just amazed that we have not at least added a starter at one of the positions above through free agency. Extremely frustrating. Whatever/whoever we are counting on getting in the draft, that plan better work out, because this could get ugly fast. Especially with so many good lbs and rbs signing to cheaper deals than expected. Surely I thought we would have at least 1. The only 3 new signings are totally underwhelming except for maybe Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Draconator said: He will have a full year under his belt. We could see a whole lot of improvement. Championships are not won in the pre-season unless you're the Dolphins. That's fair, that's just what I recall the negative sentiment to seeming to be coming from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Draconator said: He will have a full year under his belt. We could see a whole lot of improvement. Championships are not won in the pre-season unless you're the Dolphins. Can’t help but wonder if the “Bernard has no value” crowd are the same ones that wanted to cut Tyler Bass after his 0-2 start. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 If I could go back and undo that Hines trade, I would. I would rather that the Bills have that pick. It’s just so frustrating that Beane has ZERO sense of urgency about the closing of a SB window. He needed to take a big swing and he continues to bunt. 1 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, jkeerie said: If Beane isn't panicking, I'm not panicking. Exactly!! if he is gonna use his resources in one area I’d prefer it be in the offense, wether it be a top wr in trade or signing or another Olineman. JMO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 We may not have signed as many "impact" players as some of our competition at this point - but we also haven't lost as many players as KC, Cincy & our division foes. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Dru would have been a good pickup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Yeah I get ya. I just, dont want it to turn into a Tremaine bashing post, but all I heard was that he took away the middle of the field. But he didn’t. At all. Ever. He was terrible at that. And just because he is tall or whatever doesn’t mean he did those things. Maybe we can get Dikembe Mutumbo to stand at Mike y’know. And I am being half facetious, and half kinda factual. So I think there could be some dropoff in play there, but with Hyde back and hopefully a better pass rush, we don’t get exposed in that area. No problem. My bad getting salty. I actually liked Edmond a fair amount. I feel like it was a scheme issue more than a player issue. I see Bernard as a guy that if im Not not mistaken was a healthy scratch at times when Edmonds was out. Dodson, I have some faith in but I'm not sold long term. What are your thoughts on drafting as opposed to grabbing a FA? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) As it stands right now it’s pretty much a run it back offseason minus Tremaine Edmunds. Harty is a little more polished route runner than McKenzie and McGovern a better pass protector Saffold. I would like to see a veteran pass rusher, DT, and WR added before the draft. Edited March 17, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Who have our division foes lost??? off the top of my head... CINCY - Jessie Bates, Vonn Bell, Hayden Hurst , Samaje Perine and the LT wants to be traded KC - lost both starting OT & one WR oh..u said division Edited March 17, 2023 by papazoid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, papazoid said: off the top of my head... CINCY - Jessie Bates, Vonn Bell, Hayden Hurst , Samaje Perine and the LT wants to be traded KC - lost both starting OT & one WR Neither one of those are in the division. The Jets and Fins have just added a ton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 59 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: Yeah I’m trying to figure out what’s worse than wide open Dont think too hard man. I'll help ya out..... I was exaggerating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You missed him sucking. And if people don't want to take your word for it, the coaching staff gave him almost no defensive snaps after his awful showing against the Jets. He was even inactive for the divisional round. They clearly had no faith in him and I'll be shocked if he's really the plan at MLB. Dodson I could maybe see even though I wouldn't be comfortable with that solution at all. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, Draconator said: Did I miss something on Bernard last year on how a 3rd round pick gets so much hate? We didn't see that much from him. I say plug him in and give him a shot. He could surprise a lot of people. You ever hear of a 6ft 220 lb MLB? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, BrainwashedBillsFan said: You ever hear of a 6ft 220 lb MLB? If he can get the job done, what on earth do his height and weight matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Draconator said: If he can get the job done, what on earth do his height and weight matter? That’s the question isn’t it… can he get the job done… Edited March 17, 2023 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 A lot of Buzz about Hopkins to Cowboys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: A lot of Buzz about Hopkins to Cowboys. Supposedly he’s been telling people he wants to go there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Draconator said: If he can get the job done, what on earth do his height and weight matter? I hear ya but his height and weight do matter since this is a physical sport. I would love to see him take over, but it’s highly unlikely 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Draconator said: If he can get the job done, what on earth do his height and weight matter? Generally smaller guys get swallowed up in the traffic. It’s certainly not prototypical size. We were already soft to run against, I’m really hopeful he’s not the option in the middle. I wish the kid tons of success, but my preference is that would be on the outside in more of a coverage role (like Milano he played some safety in college). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: If I could go back and undo that Hines trade, I would. I would rather that the Bills have that pick. It’s just so frustrating that Beane has ZERO sense of urgency about the closing of a SB window. He needed to take a big swing and he continues to bunt. Huh? Are we expecting Josh to fall off a cliff in 2 years? Are we never going to sign another free agent after this year? Oh every draft pick we have will never ever pan out, is that the way you see it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: If I could go back and undo that Hines trade, I would. I would rather that the Bills have that pick. It’s just so frustrating that Beane has ZERO sense of urgency about the closing of a SB window. He needed to take a big swing and he continues to bunt. If I could go back it’s 2021 trade deadline. Beane didn’t want to trade for Von Miller because he didn’t know if he could sign him. Von would’ve been the difference during the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, BillzFreak said: Huh? Are we expecting Josh to fall off a cliff in 2 years? Are we never going to sign another free agent after this year? Oh every draft pick we have will never ever pan out, is that the way you see it? Teams with franchise QBs have multiple windows. This one feels like it’s closing. It’s just frustrating to see other teams taking big swings and the Bills more or less running it back. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 had to look these up...lol jets - DT Sheldon Rankins , DT Nathan Shepherd, QB mike white and whatever they gotta do to fit rodgers miami - gesicki, byron jones, LB Roberts and 18 free agents ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: No problem. My bad getting salty. I actually liked Edmond a fair amount. I feel like it was a scheme issue more than a player issue. I see Bernard as a guy that if im Not not mistaken was a healthy scratch at times when Edmonds was out. Dodson, I have some faith in but I'm not sold long term. What are your thoughts on drafting as opposed to grabbing a FA? All good man. I saw some good things from Bernard in the Jets game. A few rookie mistakes as well. I know this, he is not a mike. Does he ever become serviceable? Yeah maybe. If McDermott starts running more of the 4-3 under stuff I could see Bernard being the Shaq Thompson role. Milano is Thomas Davis. We are still missing the Kuechly role. Right now its really just Wagner or draft, or maybe somebody bets cut. I love Jack Campbell, Trenton Simpson is more their flavor, but we shall see. Edited March 17, 2023 by MrEpsYtown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: You ever hear of a 6ft 220 lb MLB? Lol you ever hear of someone putting on 10 lbs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chaos Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: In 2018 we weren't in our Super Bowl window. No way we can go into this draft desperate for a MLB. If the board doesn't fall the right way, we're screwed. maybe it could fall like this though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, FrenchConnection said: Teams with franchise QBs have multiple windows. This one feels like it’s closing. It’s just frustrating to see other teams taking big swings and the Bills more or less running it back. They took a swing by grabbing von Miller last year, and expected Gabe Davis and Mckenzie to step up. It didn't happen obviously. But don't act like they haven't taken a swing. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, papazoid said: had to look these up...lol jets - DT Sheldon Rankins , DT Nathan Shepherd, QB mike white and whatever they gotta do to fit rodgers miami - gesicki, byron jones, LB Roberts and 18 free agents ?? Thanks. I was too lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: 761 snaps, 2 sacks allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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