Chaos Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Poll intended to summarize the many "needs" threads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Coaching and OL, but chose coaching. Bengals were down 3 OL. 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 To me it’s coaching (O & D), offensive skill positions and OL, in that order. The second and third don’t much matter without the first. The Bengals showed us how having quality offensive skill players can mask a bad OL so it’s second. We need another difference maker on O. Thirdly, we could still use improvement on the OL to help the passing and running games. We don’t need any All Pros, but lining up five even slightly above average players would be a big improvement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Though I wouldn't have voted for it, front office probably should've been an option. That needs to improve more than the QB, offensive skill positions, linebackers and secondary(Injuries) do imo. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 32 minutes ago, Chaos said: Poll intended to summarize the many "needs" threads the fact that you have QB there and names are hidden? This poll going to draw out the trolls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I voted QB, this chump has to go. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I voted QB, this chump has to go. at least you admitted to it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HOUSE said: How did QB end up in the poll ?? Lol I call threads like this Backyard Trolls. Well hidden trolls when you add answers like that. Edited January 28, 2023 by PrimeTime101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 How is it not coaching? look how the Bills have exited the past 4 years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I'd add the scouting department to the list, BB is a good strategic GM, but wiffs too much on draft picks, he needs better counsel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 No all the above option? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: at least you admitted to it lol QB is here for two reasons: 1) there are threads about Allen regressing, so it is a viewpoint of some posters (certainly not me the President of the Josh Allen fan club) and 2) Coach McDermott highlighted the need for improvement in the QB position at his post season press conference: McDermott said. “But we all, myself included, Josh [Allen], and the leaders of this football team, we all have to improve in certain areas to move this organization forward.” I can only assume you are the troll you fear. 3 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: No all the above option? I don't think you know what "most" means. Edited January 28, 2023 by Chaos 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobeuws Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 OLine makes every single problem on this list go away. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, Chaos said: I don't think you know what "most" means. Yeah, I do actually, but for the “most” part think there’s more than a single issue remedy needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, I am the egg man said: Yeah, I do actually, but for the “most” part think there’s more than a single issue remedy needed. Only one can be most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, twist_to_open said: I'd add the scouting department to the list, BB is a good strategic GM, but wiffs too much on draft picks, he needs better counsel. Beane is great in the later rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Chaos said: Only one can be most. Then that be you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Scouting coaching OL WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, gobeuws said: OLine makes every single problem on this list go away. Let’s all hope so, but I seriously doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Beane is great in the later rounds. You're not wrong, and to go off topic, I would be o.k. if we traded down to get more round 3-5 picks to try to fill more holes on the cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Let’s all hope so, but I seriously doubt it. 13 seconds debacle, probably wouldn't have been solved by a better oline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Let’s all hope so, but I seriously doubt it. There's no chance that is true. Cincy manhandled the Bills D with 3 jabronies subbing on their O-line. They did it with superior coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Anything on the offense side of the Ball...oline...wr..an every down rb..maybe use a fullback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Reducing turnovers. Period. Top 5 roster across the board. This is a very good football team who shot themselves in the foot at the execution level with turnovers. Beane will make moves to improve where he can afford it in the next couple months as usual. Cut this years turnovers in half and I'm not sure we aren't still watching Bills football right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Sorry I didn't see an option for "cojones" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Prioritizing the dline over oline and drafting of defense first in early rounds since this staff has came on board 43 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Reducing turnovers. Period. Top 5 roster across the board. This is a very good football team who shot themselves in the foot at the execution level with turnovers. Beane will make moves to improve where he can afford it in the next couple months as usual. Cut this years turnovers in half and I'm not sure we aren't still watching Bills football right now. The problem is Bean has to make cap welfare decisions now when filling out the offense and his defense picks seem average at best....we should have built this offense first while Allen was on his rookie contract...the defense only has to be average if your offense is good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 The defense was just injured at every position except LB. Everyone back healthy I'd say get younger at safety. On offense we have enough pieces to score but the OL needs better starters and better backups. Saffold was a miss. They need to establish an identity as a running team and I'm not talking about Allen running the ball. I don't think we need new backs for this we just need to call more run plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 In this order: 1.) Coaching 2.) OL 3.) WR 4.) RB 5.) S 6.) LB Give Josh all the help he needs on offense. With this coaching staff we would need a HOFer at every position on defense for us to succeed, even then we would probably play in a weak prevent cover 4 defense 10-15 yards off the ball. Defense is a lost cause. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 hours ago, HOUSE said: Ok, seriously now. Coaching is a concern. We need maybe 1 OL 1 DL 1 CB or Safety I draft a center this year, maybe 3 round We need a #2 wr 14 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: In this order: 1.) Coaching 2.) OL 3.) WR 4.) RB 5.) S 6.) LB Give Josh all the help he needs on offense. With this coaching staff we would need a HOFer at every position on defense for us to succeed, even then we would probably play in a weak prevent cover 4 defense 10-15 yards off the ball. Defense is a lost cause. I wholeheartedly agree....I think this staff has taken us as far as we can reasonably expect at this point....their philosophy seems to be to do it their way contradictory to how the modern NFL is going..It's an offense driven league and we have the best qb skill wise in the league..common sense says you build around him...they drafted Allen got diggs and forgot about the rest of the offense 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 hours ago, twist_to_open said: You're not wrong, and to go off topic, I would be o.k. if we traded down to get more round 3-5 picks to try to fill more holes on the cheap. That should have been the way we filled out this defense...instead that's how we have addressed the offense 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Reducing turnovers. Period. Top 5 roster across the board. This is a very good football team who shot themselves in the foot at the execution level with turnovers. Beane will make moves to improve where he can afford it in the next couple months as usual. Cut this years turnovers in half and I'm not sure we aren't still watching Bills football right now. IMO this this not a top 5 roster on the Offensive line or the WR/TE group. It's bottom half of the league in both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 It is offensive line and it should not be a close vote. I'd rank it: 1. Offensive line 2. Offensive line 3. Offensive line 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, GunnerBill said: It is offensive line and it should not be a close vote. I'd rank it: 1. Offensive line 2. Offensive line 3. Offensive line Slightly tangential, but related. Do you have any early views on Darnell Washington? I think he would be a perfect TE#2 and really help the oline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: IMO this this not a top 5 roster on the Offensive line or the WR/TE group. It's bottom half of the league in both. I think they are arguably bottom 5 or 6 on line. They are about halfway on pass catchers IMO.... Diggs, Knox, Davis isn't a bad 3... the Bills should just throw to Knox more. They undersused him badly this year. Their best sepatation guy (per next gen) and catching 73% targets. There is zero proven depth behind those 3 though. 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: Slightly tangential, but related. Do you have any early views on Darnell Washington? I think he would be a perfect TE#2 and really help the oline. He is the perfect TE2. Agreed. The questions are how early is a TE2 worth a pick and when will he in fact be picked? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 O-line, D-line, Defense coaching, WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 4 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Reducing turnovers. Period. Top 5 roster across the board. This is a very good football team who shot themselves in the foot at the execution level with turnovers. Beane will make moves to improve where he can afford it in the next couple months as usual. Cut this years turnovers in half and I'm not sure we aren't still watching Bills football right now. We just got stomped by the Bengals with not turnovers until late in the game when the outcome was already decided. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1. OL 2. Coaching 3. WR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Coaching then OL. I looked back at JA's game vs. Seattle. 80% completions. 4 TDs, 400+ yards. What happened to the schemes that generated those kinds of numbers? To the coaching that could instill that kind of discipline and belief in the system in Josh? Did it just move to NYC? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 So many groups had injuries but the OL even healthy is suspect. Saffold was a miss and we could use upgrades at several spots and certainly upgrades to the back ups. Coaching I'm not going to call out Dorsey and Frazier and say they can't coach their respective units. Dorsey in his first year and Frazier dealing with a massive number of injuries at every position except LB but that said the down and distance management and time management has been at times atrocious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 8 hours ago, Chaos said: 13 seconds debacle, probably wouldn't have been solved by a better oline. Better coaching would have solved that...that might be the greatest defensive collapse I've ever witnessed in the amount of time it took 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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