BillsShredder83 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Same operator that patched the Tampa GM thru to Buddy Nix? omg forgot all about that. literally can not bnelieve that really happened still 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 I saw an interesting mock draft yesterday. It had Buffalo trading for Hopkins. The cost? Buffalo trades #27 to Arizona for Arizona's pick at #34. That means Buffalo gets Hopkins by dropping seven spots to the top of the second round. The big sticking point, that the mock draft doesn't get in to is what Beane has to do in the way of salary rewrites to manage the cap implications of paying Hopkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: I saw an interesting mock draft yesterday. It had Buffalo trading for Hopkins. The cost? Buffalo trades #27 to Arizona for Arizona's pick at #34. That means Buffalo gets Hopkins by dropping seven spots to the top of the second round. The big sticking point, that the mock draft doesn't get in to is what Beane has to do in the way of salary rewrites to manage the cap implications of paying Hopkins. Trading down from 27 to 34 would amount to the cost of roughly a third round pick. That seems like fair value but you are correct how would the deal be structured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, billsfan89 said: Trading down from 27 to 34 would amount to the cost of roughly a third round pick. That seems like fair value but you are correct how would the deal be structured? I don't know, but in the mock 3.0 we traded Ed Oliver along with pick 27 for Hopkins and 34. Trading Ed helped make the cap work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I don't know, but in the mock 3.0 we traded Ed Oliver along with pick 27 for Hopkins and 34. Trading Ed helped make the cap work. That would be a horrible trade . Giving Ed & a 3rd for Hopkins. Would be a laughingstock of the league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I don't know, but in the mock 3.0 we traded Ed Oliver along with pick 27 for Hopkins and 34. Trading Ed helped make the cap work. Really would like to keep Ed if possible, that 5th year lay it all ou for the next contract could be a boon for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 This might make 500 pages if this actually happens or we start a new thread and that goes for 250 pages when the trade happen. I will actually 💩 my pants if he becomes a bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 46 minutes ago, jimmy10 said: It’s all a distraction. The real story? We’re finally acquiring John Skelton. Mario Williams making a comeback to complete the trade? 2 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: That would be a horrible trade . Giving Ed & a 3rd for Hopkins. Would be a laughingstock of the league I think we get Hopkins & a 2nd for a 1st & 3rd. Then we trade Oliver to Chicago for 33. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Trading down from 27 to 34 would amount to the cost of roughly a third round pick. That seems like fair value but you are correct how would the deal be structured? Trade Oliver for a mid-round pick to clear 10M in salary. Use pick 34 or 59 on a DT. 1) To replace Oliver. 2) So we have a DT under contract beyond this year. 3) If they plan on going small at LB, it’s not ideal to also have a small 3T. But, hey.. if they trade Oliver somewhere to facilitate a trade-down Hopkins acquisition, by all means McBeane, draft a DT and a LB in RD2. If they truly are hellbent on extending Davis .. that still works. His cap hit can be managed in ‘24 while Hopkins is still on the books for 15M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, uticaclub said: Mario Williams making a comeback to complete the trade? I think we get Hopkins & a 2nd for a 1st & 3rd. Then we trade Oliver to Chicago for 33. Are you high? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins How would he know? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said: Really would like to keep Ed if possible, that 5th year lay it all ou for the next contract could be a boon for us. I agree. I don't think it would be necessary and we are already looking at DT as probably one of the early picks. But that is how the trade was specified in the mock. I stated in the thread it was an overpay and various reasons why Oliver should be kept. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Are you high? Always, but what does that have to do with the likelyhood of those trade scenarios? I think that's reasonable compensation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins so if we don't get Dhop we blame this guy now huh??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: How would he know? It’s reasonably possible that he could have connections since he is an actual WR coach. 2 minutes ago, gordong said: so if we don't get Dhop we blame this guy now huh??? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: It’s reasonably possible that he could have connections since he is an actual WR coach. Ehhh seems like a stretch, we will see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: It’s reasonably possible that he could have connections since he is an actual WR coach. It’s certainly odd for him to break it. That said, he’s in the industry and it’s not a good look if he puts this out ther and is wrong (not a great look if he’s right). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, TOboy said: It’s certainly odd for him to break it. That said, he’s in the industry and it’s not a good look if he puts this out ther and is wrong (not a great look if he’s right). Only person allowed to do that and still have our unconditional love is Von. Hop isn’t shy about wanting to join the Bills, that is the only reason why I think this may happen. I also think his comments fuel these BS Twitter insiders we have to deal with every year. IC Bob was ahead of him time. Edited April 27, 2023 by TheyCallMeAndy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 29 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: FWIW this guy is the Canisius WR Coach and previously said (in March) that Bills were not in on Hopkins Now we got a high school WR coach in the know? That's like 1 step up from ball boy. Sounds like wishful thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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