Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: What is the over/under on the percentage of posters that are going to think this guys personal opinion on the best place for Hopkins to play is somehow a rumor showing the Bills are trying to get Hopkins here? I'm gonna say 72% And I will take the over. Don't get me wrong, I would love to land Hopkins...but this is a dude talking on TV about where he thinks is the best fit for TV. It has nothing to do on whether or not the Bills are actually working on this. Not true. Daniel Jeremiah isn't going to mention the Bills as the No.1 potential landing spot unless HE KNOWS we have a real chance of acquiring him. He is very well connected around the league and his mock drafts end up hitting on a lot of picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Why do you always just make things up? He's rarely "open"??? Might as well tell me you did not watch him play without actually saying you did not watch him play. He gets open all the time with ease and he is a top 7 WR without question right now. He played with Murray for 5 games and 2nd and 3rd stringers for 4 games...and yet if you project those 9 games over the full season he would have had 120 rec for almost 1400 yards...again, playing half his time with scrub QB's with little else around him on a bad team. Using jargon like “with ease” and “without question” means you’re full of internet fluff. On the other hand, the fact I put “open” in quotes means I used a little nuance. Those weren’t my own observations but rather the local analysis by people who cover the Cardinals every day as opposed to watching your YouTube highlights and reading your fantasy stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Its AZ that will say no to that. They want a good pick and a player. I did say "if it's available", which would be a presupposition that AZ would be interested in the deal as stated. "Who says no to that?" is from the Bills perspective. I also said earlier in the thread that I think it's unlikely that Hopkins goes to the Bills. It's fun to speculate. Let people speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Does Arizona need a DT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Not true. Daniel Jeremiah isn't going to mention the Bills as the No.1 potential landing spot unless HE KNOWS we have a real chance of acquiring him. He is very well connected around the league and his mock drafts end up hitting on a lot of picks No, that is not at all what the clip is about. Have you even watched the clip? He does not say we are the most likely to get him...that is not remotely what this clip is about. He said its who HE thinks is the best FIT for Hopkins because he assumes Hopkins wants to play for a contender. He picked Bills as the best place for him to go, NOT the most likely place he is going to go. There is literally ZERO information in here suggesting we are the most likely to get him...there is ZERO information in this clip suggesting we are even interested in him. You can't look at a clip/article title and form a conclusion, you have to open it and take in the info too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 When the heck are these guys going to learn to not burn bridges on their way out the door? There are only 32 employers in their chosen field and they might be looking for a job sometime in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Airseven said: Using jargon like “with ease” and “without question” means you’re full of internet fluff. On the other hand, the fact I put “open” in quotes means I used a little nuance. Those weren’t my own observations but rather the local analysis by people who cover the Cardinals every day as opposed to watching your YouTube highlights and reading your fantasy stats. I actually watched a lot of the Cardinals games last year...so yeah, I will trust watching the guy play vs you googling stuff you didn't watch. He is still a top 5 route runner in the league and was constantly open. No one who actually watched him play last year would ever say he was "rarely" open, regardless of your context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: No, that is not at all what the clip is about. Have you even watched the clip? He does not say we are the most likely to get him...that is not remotely what this clip is about. He said its who HE thinks is the best FIT for Hopkins because he assumes Hopkins wants to play for a contender. He picked Bills as the best place for him to go, NOT the most likely place he is going to go. There is literally ZERO information in here suggesting we are the most likely to get him...there is ZERO information in this clip suggesting we are even interested in him. You can't look at a clip/article title and form a conclusion, you have to open it and take in the info too. Do you think he wants to look like an idiot? Of course not. He’s not going to say those things unless he knows something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Do you think he wants to look like an idiot? Of course not. He’s not going to say those things unless he knows something So now we are resorting to just making things up that were not said? Come on dude...I get everyone wants to get Hopkins, myself included, but this is why so much fake info floats around the internet. Could the Bills be interested? Yes. Does this clip PROVE they are interested? Absolutely not. It is just his opinion on best fit, that is verbatim what he said. If he had any info the Bills were looking into Hopkins, he would absolutely state that. His job is literally to speculate on where he would go and to report all the teams interested in said player. Reporting teams interested would not make him look like an idiot lol, it is what they do every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Daniel Jeremiah randomly speculating about the Hopkins/Bills fit. Ed Oliver going all sad boy on Instagram. I want to believe... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: So now we are resorting to just making things up that were not said? Come on dude...I get everyone wants to get Hopkins, myself included, but this is why so much fake info floats around the internet. Could the Bills be interested? Yes. Does this clip PROVE they are interested? Absolutely not. It is just his opinion on best fit, that is verbatim what he said. If he had any info the Bills were looking into Hopkins, he would absolutely state that. His job is literally to speculate on where he would go and to report all the teams interested in said player. Reporting teams interested would not make him look like an idiot lol, it is what they do every day. the Bills may have specifically requested he not directly state their interest. He’s not the type to have a segment like that unless he knows that team is actually interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: the Bills may have specifically requested he not directly state their interest. He’s not the type to have a segment like that unless he knows that team is actually interested This is like the 3rd straight thing you just made up to validate your belief this segment about Hopkins best fit is somehow some DaVinci Code segment secretly telling the world that he is most likely going to the Bills. Its all good man, if you want to jump to all these conclusions to give you hope of a trade, then you do you bud. I would love to see Hopkins in Buffalo too, so I get the want for that. And Buffalo very well may be interested, and he could end up a Bill. But this segment clip just isn't proof or any indication that it is in the works IMHO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 14 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: We have maybe 7 million dollars of the 43.5 we were able to pull together, when we were already 18.5 over. We have more holes to fill and draft picks to sign. This concept of "I don't care, just get it done" is childish. The cap can be finessed, but it DOES exist. And he's already finessed it quite a bit just to stay afloat. We went all in last year. We can't do that this year. We're 18+ million over the cap next year already for pushing things down the road all the time. His cap hit moves from 31 to 19.45. Simply can't afford that. Even if we did move things around further from there (which i'm not sure we can), we still can't afford it. And they're going to pay for it? How much compensation would that cost for them to give us Hopkins and pay for him? More than anyone would pay for a 30 year old WR. WR will be addressed somehow. Whether it's a gamble on someone coming off an injury like OBJ, someone looking to rebuild their value like Allen Robinson, getting lucky that someone overplayed their hand in FA like Mecole Hardman, and/or more likely than all of that a 1st or 2nd Round Draft pick. But DeAndre Hopkins is a pipedream. Simple as that. If you're expecting or even hoping for that, you're misguided and setting yourself up for surefire anger and/or disappointment. Asking since I sincerely don't know. Cards need as much ammo as they can get their hands on, and haven't had any nibbles on moving him. It would make a ton of sense for them to eat, up to, the maximum amount that they can, and get higher pick compensation. Obviously the pick helps, but they need to bottom out for draft purposes. You can't outwardly tank, but you can make moves that move a good player, eat dead cap in a down year, and hopefully pick high (with an extra pick). That makes so much sense to me. Anyone know what the maximum amount they could eat would be? Even if its not for us I'm curious in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 give em gabe n oli and call it a day. superbowl buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Does Arizona need a DT? Ed Oliver loved me!!???? Ya don't know what ya got till it's (maybe) gone. At least I now know his feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Does Arizona need a DT? this dudes a dork. big bucks is for studs. above average $$ is for potential (sometimes). feel free to go chase that above average bag elsewhere this is the "butterface" booty call threatening to delete your number..... ok? good luck i guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) Hopkins just followed Josh Allen on IG. he was following 572 yesterday, Josh was not one of them. I know because I looked myself. He was following Diggs already. He’s now following 573 Edited March 22, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 24 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Hopkins just followed Josh Allen on IG. he was following 572 yesterday, Josh was not one of them. I know because I looked myself. He was following Diggs already. He’s now following 573 Who keeps track of this stuff? LoL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Just now, Bills!Win! said: Who keeps track of this stuff? LoL it literally takes 30 secs to look up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Any updates on the Pegula plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: it literally takes 30 secs to look up. I think it’s weird to look up and see if he’s following Josh yesterday- remember the exact followers and then check again today. It’s not the time involved as much is it is the thought process. but I’m also not really into ig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: I think it’s weird to look up and see if he’s following Josh yesterday- remember the exact followers and then check again today. It’s not the time involved as much is it is the thought process. but I’m also not really into ig. All you do is click on his followers….newest ones are at the top of the list. You’re welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: All you do is click on his followers….newest ones are at the top of the list. You’re welcome. Like I said…. It has nothing to do with the time involved or the process of checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 37 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Hopkins just followed Josh Allen on IG. he was following 572 yesterday, Josh was not one of them. I know because I looked myself. He was following Diggs already. He’s now following 573 I didn't go through all of his followers but he also follows Mac Jones and Dak Prescott from what I saw. Not sure him following Josh is something to really look into. The timing of it is interesting but I'm not gonna try to really read into it too much. One thing I will say about him following Dak and Mac is he was rumored to possibly be traded to the Cowboys before they got Cooks and he is still being rumored to possibly be traded to the Patriots. So, maybe he is just following QBs of rumored teams lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 40 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Hopkins just followed Josh Allen on IG. he was following 572 yesterday, Josh was not one of them. I know because I looked myself. He was following Diggs already. He’s now following 573 Interesting!! This and the news that trade talks are heating up for Hopkins! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: I don't give a f*ck about his age right now. Go get him and go for a Super Bowl. Worry about ramifications later lol Seriously. If they get a SB and then have to "retool or rebuild" in a couple years, who cares. I know some Rams fans that couldn't care less about the re build they're going through right now. I think I'd be the same. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: Seriously. If they get a SB and then have to "retool or rebuild" in a couple years, who cares. I know some Rams fans that couldn't care less about the re build they're going through right now. I think I'd be the same. It would suck to have to sort of rebuild in a few years but get the Super Bowl beforehand and I won't care as much. Allen will still be here and as long as he is, we will never be completely out of it anyway Edited March 22, 2023 by Buffalo03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I’m gonna go ahead and say Hopkins will be a Buffalo Bill. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: Seriously. If they get a SB and then have to "retool or rebuild" in a couple years, who cares. I know some Rams fans that couldn't care less about the re build they're going through right now. I think I'd be the same. We aren’t even remotely close to the Rams situation. Which is even a bigger reason why they should go for it if a trade for Hopkins is available for, say, a 3rd and the eventual trade of Ed Oliver. We could likely get them to eat some cap if we’re willing to go Day 2 pick to wash the salary with Oliver. We didn’t trade for a QB. We didn’t trade for an EDGE. We didn’t trade for a CB1. We didn’t trade away years worth of premium picks. We are not the same. Just move Oliver and we’re fine… no need for Jets maneuvering like multiple void years at 20M+ cap hits for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, SCBills said: We aren’t even remotely close to the Rams situation. Which is even a bigger reason why they should go for it if a trade for Hopkins is available for, say, a 3rd and the eventual trade of Ed Oliver. We could likely get them to eat some cap if we’re willing to go Day 2 pick to wash the salary with Oliver. We didn’t trade for a QB. We didn’t trade for an EDGE. We didn’t trade for a CB1. We didn’t trade away years worth of premium picks. We are not the same. Just move Oliver and we’re fine… no need for Jets maneuvering like multiple void years at 20M+ cap hits for a QB. I hear ya. I know we aren't in the same situation or even will be. I'm just simply stating that if we had to deal with finances and cap in a couple years (because we went in on Hop) and won the big one then, I'm down for that. Sign me up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 good Lord do it now!! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: I’m gonna go ahead and say Hopkins will be a Buffalo Bill. Loved Hopkins his last year in HOU and first in AZ. Pretty much his whole career has been legit. Just feel as though he’s going to start declining sooner rather than later… Trading away assets that turn into future players on team friendly deals is a rough gamble for a guy heading into his eleventh year. Could be wrong and he plays to that 2017-20 stretch again… Who knows. That’s my 2¢ 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: good Lord do it now!! OK. For those picks I’d be down for. A second and more? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, BBFL said: Loved Hopkins his last year in HOU and first in AZ. Pretty much his whole career has been legit. Just feel as though he’s going to start declining sooner rather than later… Trading away assets that turn into future players on team friendly deals is a rough gamble for a guy heading into his eleventh year. Could be wrong and he plays to that 2017-20 stretch again… Who knows. That’s my 2¢ OK. For those picks I’d be down for. A second and more? No thanks. I'd do a 2nd this year. Not sure why that would be a big deal. There would be no future assets tied up. Losing a 2nd round pick one year isn't a huge deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: I'd do a 2nd this year. Not sure why that would be a big deal. There would be no future assets tied up. Losing a 2nd round pick one year isn't a huge deal Why? Got a lot of questions surrounding the offense after Josh, Diggs and Dawkins. My issue isn’t trading any draft pick for a player. It’s the player, contract and future. If Hopkins was fresh off his first contract or even at the end of the second; like HOU to AZ. Wouldn’t be as much of a concern. Edited March 22, 2023 by BBFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) Josh Allen’s newest follow on IG is Hopkins I wonder who followed who first😆 Edited March 22, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 People are too enamored of skill players. Build the line, the rest will follow. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Just now, Success said: People are too enamored of skill players. Build the line, the rest will follow. you cannot win a SB without skill players. Bengals made the SB with one of the worst lines in football….and great weapons… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: you cannot win a SB without skill players. Bengals made the SB with one of the worst lines in football….and great weapons… The Patriots literally won a ton of Super Bowls without top receivers. We already have 1 who is better than anyone they had for any of those wins. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Just now, Success said: The Patriots literally won a ton of Super Bowls without top receivers. We already have 1 who is better than anyone they had for any of those wins. You forgot to mention why they won all those SB’s 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I can't approve any trade unless I see the PFF rating. Am I doing this right? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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