Beck Water Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 29 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: The illness must be running rampant right now. Dawkins left Thurs game in a boot and may be out due to injury Damar Hamlin would be a new add, and a big one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: More so than Poyer? I certainly don't agree with that. He might be our most reliable corner, but that's a pretty low bar. He's been getting picked on in coverage quite a bit. Agreed, not really making excuses for the guy, he's been posterized way too many times this season. I was just lamenting that we do need to keep realistic expectations in mind, even though he's being asked to do more. He played very well last year when taking over for Tre...even through the first few games this year...which leads me to believe the issue isn't as much with him per se as it is with having to devote resources elsewhere which then prevents them from doing what they normally do...ie, they are playing more man coverages and/or requiring safety help elsewhere. I think the Hyde injury has really hurt them in that regard. Hamlin is pretty good in terms of run defense but a liability in coverage. Edited November 28, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Wait, Wat? What's happened? Well Shakir wasn't seen at practice. Kumerow is out. Crowder is out. Gentry was already called up for the Browns game. So it's down to the bottom of the barrel after McKenzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Dawkins left Thurs game in a boot and may be out due to injury Damar Hamlin would be a new add, and a big one. It would be hard to see illness 3 days from the game being a reason a player missed a game. I mean I am sure it has happened before but would be very unlikely. 8 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Can’t be reliable if you’re not on the field. TJ hasn’t missed a game. To be clear, when healthy, Poyer, Hyde, and White are all better players than TJ. TJ has a knack for making clutch plays in the big moment tho...101 yard INT against Baltimore in the playoffs and INT to end the game against KC this year...also turned the tide of the Steeler game with a pick 6 right before the half a few years ago. Edited November 28, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Beck Water said: From Sal Cappacio. On the sideline past Allen, you can see Davis, Diggs, and McKenzie practicing. Shakir is still out with illness. to the OP you're killing me Smalls According to WGR he is still injured and the ball is wobbly on that last throw. Give me a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 hours ago, newcam2012 said: I want the Bills to win. The best chance for that is to unleash Allen which includes his legs. That includes designed runs and RPOs. You don't limit a QBs talents and thus limiting the team's ability to win. I'm getting tired of the constant don't let Allen run BS. You have years of watching Allen run without injury. The guy is durable and can take a hit. I mean should we say don't let him pass because he might get hurt? You do know the odds of him getting hurt are dramatically more when he drops back. Did he hurt his elbow running? I'm not advocating reckless running. Look at the Detroit game. After the Diggs catch they ran two fantastic designed Allen runs to get Bass an easier FG. Please people stop with the don't let Allen run crap. Allen isn't Tua. Play to win don't play scared. Mark this post for yourself when Allen gets hurt and your season is derailed because you run your QB more than your RB. Sorry that’s not playing scared it’s called playing smart! You don’t risk the long term health of your Franchise for 1 season. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Gugny said: Care to elaborate? Well, let's pull out the depth chart: 1. Diggs 2. Davis 3. McKenzie 4. Shakir - Not at practice 5. Stevenson - IR 6. Kumerow - IR 7. Crowder - IR Leaving ... John Brown and Tanner Gentry..... Edited November 28, 2022 by Straight Hucklebuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Well, let's pull out the depth chart: 1. Diggs 2. Davis 3. McKenzie 4. Shakir - Not at practice 5. Stevenson - IR 6. Kumerow - IR 7. Crowder - IR Leaving ... John Brown and Tanner Gentry..... I misunderstood. When you said half of the starting WR room, I didn't know you were still counting the guys on IR, who've been gone for a while. I thought you meant something was wrong with Diggs, Davis or McKenzie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Morse ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Mark this post for yourself when Allen gets hurt and your season is derailed because you run your QB more than your RB. Sorry that’s not playing scared it’s called playing smart! You don’t risk the long term health of your Franchise for 1 season. I'm making a motion to permaban Mr. Pats Fan, here, for trying to jinx our QB and our season. All in favor?? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Gugny said: I'm making a motion to permaban Mr. Pats Fan, here, for trying to jinx our QB and our season. All in favor?? Aye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 🎼Woo-oo-woo, Love Hurts! 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: According to Jeremy White, there will be panic if the Bills can't score more than 23 points. I've felt all year that as long as the offense is intact, I feel good about the game. It looks like Morse is trending the right way, and we'll have to see if Dawkins can get there as well. Offensively, I expect Spencer Brown to be beaten several times, he's not that good. And Quesenberry is not Walter Jones. So if the Bills win 23-20, who cares. I still think the Bills need to get to about 20-carries a game combined for Singletary/Cook. Defensively, New England shouldn't be able to light the Bills up through the air with more White, Elam and Rhodes, especially if Tremaine Edmunds is back. RB Stephenson is a worry for me. And their TE game has picked up. Even MacCorkle has looked decent. Bills need to be ready Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 28, 2022 Author Share Posted November 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Morse ? He’s practicing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Well Shakir wasn't seen at practice. Kumerow is out. Crowder is out. Gentry was already called up for the Browns game. So it's down to the bottom of the barrel after McKenzie. I guess I see Diggs, Davis, and McKenzie as the starters on offense. Kumerow mostly affects ST and has been out 2 weeks already, and Crowder has been on IR for 8 weeks now. It sounds very dramatic the way you phrased it, but I thought you were introducing some new and bad news. 4 of the 8 guys out with illness were back at practice today, with Damar Hamlin a new add, so hopefully Shakir comes back and we don't add anyone else. But yeah, we're thin (and the Browns game was Gentry's 2nd call up, the Lions game was the 3rd), I'm sure that's why we added Brown. It's kind of bad luck/bad management we lost Hodgins. 22 minutes ago, Gugny said: I misunderstood. When you said half of the starting WR room, I didn't know you were still counting the guys on IR, who've been gone for a while. I thought you meant something was wrong with Diggs, Davis or McKenzie. Yeah, I read it the same way and freaked out Edited November 28, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Well, let's pull out the depth chart: 1. Diggs 2. Davis 3. McKenzie 4. Shakir - Not at practice 5. Stevenson - IR 6. Kumerow - IR 7. Crowder - IR Leaving ... John Brown and Tanner Gentry..... By the way, I didn't realize this but FYI Stevenson was "designated for return" from IR on Nov 17th. His bad luck that he was given a window with minimal practices due to snow, illness, and a short week, but the Bills have until Dec 7th to either place him on the 53 man roster or send him to season-ending IR. Edited November 28, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Morse ? . . . - - - . . . 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Morse ? practiced two days straight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 40 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Well, let's pull out the depth chart: 1. Diggs 2. Davis 3. McKenzie 4. Shakir - Not at practice 5. Stevenson - IR 6. Kumerow - IR 7. Crowder - IR Leaving ... John Brown and Tanner Gentry..... Gentry would have to be signed to the 53 right? So then Brown is very likely to play Thursday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: He played very well last year when taking over for Tre...even through the first few games this year...which leads me to believe the issue isn't as much with him per se as it is with having to devote resources elsewhere which then prevents them from doing what they normally do...ie, they are playing more man coverages and/or requiring safety help elsewhere. I think the Hyde injury has really hurt them in that regard. Hamlin is pretty good in terms of run defense but a liability in coverage. I think Hamlin is pretty good in coverage, actually. Are you thinking perhaps of Jaquan Johnson, who is a decent run defender but gets toasted? FWIW, Cover1 did a piece on Hamlin. They talk first about his run defense and start talking about coverage about 6:40 in 1 hour ago, Bruffalo said: He might be our most reliable corner, but that's a pretty low bar. He's been getting picked on in coverage quite a bit. re Taron Johnson, I think missing Edmunds missing the last 2 1/2 games impacts that quite a lot. Wish I could find it, but there was a piece with Frazier where he was talking about how the Bills use Milano, Edmunds, and Johnson both against the run and in pass coverage. It was in the context of Milano going on IR in 2020 and needing to re-work defensive responsibilities to make Klein a positive contributor. Edited November 28, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chandler#81 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Well Shakir wasn't seen at practice. Kumerow is out. Crowder is out. Gentry was already called up for the Browns game. So it's down to the bottom of the barrel after McKenzie. McKensie IS the bottom of the barrel! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: McKensie IS the bottom of the barrel! McKenzie should get some slack....he did just have 90 yards and a TD. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 could be nothing....could be something Diggs on Brown's return: "The band is almost back together" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: Mark this post for yourself when Allen gets hurt and your season is derailed because you run your QB more than your RB. Sorry that’s not playing scared it’s called playing smart! You don’t risk the long term health of your Franchise for 1 season. The game has changed sir. Here's some QBs that disagree with you. Proof that running QBs can play well, run and run and run, and don't increase their chances of getting injured. Like I said the game has changed and QBs aren't getting hit like before. I believe statistically a QB has a better chance of getting hurt dropping back to pass vs running. I trust Allen to make solid decisions running and his body sure seems able to hold up to the hits he takes while running. (1)Jackson (2) Fields (3) Murray (4) Hurts (5) Jones (6) Mariota (7) Watson Edited November 28, 2022 by newcam2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I'm making a motion to permaban Mr. Pats Fan, here, for trying to jinx our QB and our season. All in favor?? I think we should let him stick around so that when he says things like Belichick would rather have Mac Jones as his QB than Josh Allen - and yes this is really something he posted last year - we can all look back and laugh at the dumb Patriots fan. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beck Water Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Gentry would have to be signed to the 53 right? So then Brown is very likely to play Thursday Gentry would have to be signed to the 53, correct. We could also see Stevenson activated if the Bills feel he's ready. It's gonna be a challenge for the Bills who to drop from the roster, though, and remember all cut players now go through waivers, veteran or no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Mitch Greg and AJ all full....wow.. surprising....great news 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Process said: Mitch Greg and AJ all full....wow.. surprising....great news and Edmunds! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Looks like the whole D (minus Von) is back this week. Big. I'm expecting Dawkins not to play, but Morse is back. They will need to provide help on the L side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Wow...that is about as good of news as we could have hoped for on the guys who were out last week...all of them full participants...would imagine the ones out with illness will be good to go by Thursday with 3 days to recover and plenty of intervention. 32 minutes ago, Process said: Mitch Greg and AJ all full....wow.. surprising....great news And Edmunds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 now everyone can just stay healthy for the rest of the season, that’d be grreeaaattt. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hemma Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 I’m ready to see Brown dust off his 4.34 and do some damage. If nothing else, loosen ‘em up a little at the LOS & give Belichek another frown line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bubba Gump Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 I can't believe people seem to think Mac Jones is improving. He had one good game against Minny and now everyone is in love with him again. He's no more than a serviceable backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Everyone but Von it looks like 18 minutes ago, hemma said: I’m ready to see Brown dust off his 4.34 and do some damage. If nothing else, loosen ‘em up a little at the LOS & give Belichek another frown line. I don’t think we see him this week. AJ Klein, who came back from less time and the same defense, didn’t play that first week. Brown has been gone for 2 year and a OC ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Everyone but Von it looks like And Dawkins. No Dawkins for a 2nd straight practice (Sun and Mon) is No Bueno. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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