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5 minutes ago, TheCockSportif said:

If you follow the GDT thread, that's not necessarily a good benchmark.  To sum it up, HC, OC, DC should be fired / left in Detroit.  Allen is terrible, of course.

 

Outside of the GDT context, I don't really see people hating on Josh in this thread.

 

I've seen a lot of posts being very hard on him after today's performance.

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2 minutes ago, mikemac2001 said:

There weren’t big play TDs and then we almost blew it at the end with soft d and bad execution

 

thats what upsets people - I saw a slow start and once we woke up kind of controlled it. Refs were getting in the way also 

 

The game really wasn't in doubt after we took the 13-10 lead.

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1 minute ago, wjag said:

 

I more times than not disagree with the 2 point tries.  This game included.  I think coaches leave points on the field way too early in the game.  This one included.

You seem incredibly insightful. You should post more often. 🤣🤣

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10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Do you ever watch other games? Ravens barely got by the Panthers. Giants lost, at home, to the Lions. Jets and Pats would have ended 3-3 if not for a punt return TD. Eagles were losing all game to the Colts. Those incredible Vikings are losing. 

This seems to be the context people are missing… great teams play close games against not so good teams constantly.

 

browns have some talent too that definitely could and did test us.  

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6 minutes ago, TheCockSportif said:

If you follow the GDT thread, that's not necessarily a good benchmark.  To sum it up, HC, OC, DC should be fired / left in Detroit.  Allen is terrible, of course.

 

Outside of the GDT context, I don't really see people hating on Josh in this thread.

 

Honestly I think posters here have a form of PTSD where they can't be happy unless they find something to be overly negative about and ignore anything positive.

 

It's honestly strange and I wonder if they act like that with their families. Just bizarre.

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Just now, Big Turk said:

 

The game really wasn't in doubt after we took the 13-10 lead.

Granted, I've become a grumpy old man, but it's not like the Browns stopped scoring in the second half.  Make no mistake, it was a satisfying win, and one that the Bills definitely needed, but 13-10, as the final score indicates, was *not* a foregone conclusion.

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19 minutes ago, TheCockSportif said:

It isn't crap at all.  The team has issues, and I expect it to be a dogfight through the rest of the season and into the playoffs.  Did I say that they were going to lose out or miss the playoffs?  Nope, so not sure why you are bent out of shape.  But with KC and the Bills' record and with the Titans being pretty good, do you foresee the Bills getting the #1 seed?  And if so, why?

 

Because Buffalo beat both of them, we all have about the same SoS left, we haven't been blown out (like we did to the Titans) and 3 of our 4 remaining divisional games are at home.

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1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

Honestly I think posters here have a form of PTSD where they can't be happy unless they find something to be overly negative about and ignore anything positive.

 

It's honestly strange and I wonder if they act like that with their families. Just bizarre.

BBFS is real.  And yeah, the GDT is particularly brutal at this juncture, but regardless, I think that we're all in.

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So Josh hasn't played well for a month now... is it too late to bring Daboll back? He just choked against the Lions, might be available 😅

 

Speaking of which... Lions D played s pretty good game & that offense put up 31 points. Hope the Bills don't take them too lightly this week

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1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Because Buffalo beat both of them, we all have about the same SoS left, we haven't been blown out (like we did to the Titans) and 3 of our 4 remaining divisional games are at home.

If, at the end of the season, the Bills win a SB, and people harsh on me for holding these views, then?  That's a great problem to have.  For all of us.

 

But the Bills can't afford to lose too many more games to keep the hope of the #1 seed alive.  Could the Bills run the table ahead of the playoffs and get #1 seed?  Sure.  Could they not?  Sure.  The point of my remark is that this is not a gimme.  Because it's not.

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9 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

Being up 13 instead of 12 does in fact matter, as you saw at the end of the game where the Browns were within a score and 2-point conversion to tie. Taking the point would have made it a two score game at the end. 

I’m telling you, it was the right call. You’re looking at it with the benefit of hindsight because the conversion didn’t work. Yes I agree that because they didn’t get the conversion the extra point would’ve put them up 2 scores at the end. Can’t think like that though, because if they had gotten the conversion they also would have been up 2 scores 

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I want to confirm something. We all understand that holding a double digit lead from 4 minutes left in the 3rd through all of the 4th until 0:25 left in the game and winning by 8 is winning easily in the NFL, yes? 
 

The Bills were not aggressive, they didn’t take chances and they won easily. I love watching Allen light it up as much as the next guy, but it wasn’t necessary in this game.
 

They dictated the game, didn’t let Chubb get going, dared Brissett to win it for the Browns and he couldn’t do it. 
 

Is our cornerback situation currently pretty mediocre? Of course. Is that likely to be resolved this season? I think it will. Most if not all teams in the league have bigger areas of concern than the Bills. With 2 games in 5 days here, it makes sense to be cautious against a team you can beat with a C+ effort. That’s what this was.
 

 

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1 hour ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

Then, honestly, he should have sat out the season, and the team should have found a replacement

 

 

Yeah, totally would rather have Da'Marius Jacktherius from Coastal Carolina University come playoffs than Tre White. 

 

Or maybe we could have snagged Hingle McCringleberry? 

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1 minute ago, Ya Digg? said:

I’m telling you, it was the right call. You’re looking at it with the benefit of hindsight because the conversion didn’t work. Yes I agree that because they didn’t get the conversion the extra point would’ve put them up 2 scores at the end. Can’t think like that though, because I’d they had gotten the conversion they also would have been up 2 scores 


I hear ya. I just think he’s being unnecessarily aggressive when they aren’t at their best to begin with. Normally, I would love the aggressiveness but at the stage those decisions have been made I feel it’s better to take the guaranteed points when things aren’t going as smooth as usual. It’s all good; they won!

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5 minutes ago, TheCockSportif said:

If, at the end of the season, the Bills win a SB, and people harsh on me for holding these views, then?  That's a great problem to have.  For all of us.

 

But the Bills can't afford to lose too many more games to keep the hope of the #1 seed alive.  Could the Bills run the table ahead of the playoffs and get #1 seed?  Sure.  Could they not?  Sure.  The point of my remark is that this is not a gimme.  Because it's not.

 

I'm not fussed about the number one seed. That may be blasphemous but we've just got to get to the post season. Then anything can happen.

 

Yes, McDermott doesn't have a great record away from OP in the post season but we were a blown coverage away from the Championship game. We could have made the same error at home.

 

Get everyone fit, ease Josh back to his best self and we'll be a threat wherever we play.

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Just now, Motorin' said:

 

Yeah, totally would rather have Da'Marius Jacktherius from Coastal Carolina University come playoffs than Tre White. 

 

Or maybe we could have snagged Hingle McCringleberry? 

love the key and peele reference, but how effective is a guy gonna be after sitting out the entire season

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12 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Honestly I think posters here have a form of PTSD where they can't be happy unless they find something to be overly negative about and ignore anything positive.

 

It's honestly strange and I wonder if they act like that with their families. Just bizarre.

A lot of people seem like they’re just trying to be dissenters and sometimes it pays off and the bills blow the game.  A lot of times they’re wrong though lol 

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1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

A lot of people seem like they’re just trying to be dissenters and sometimes it pays off and the bills blow the game.  A lot of times they’re wrong though lol 

 

In fairness to "dissenters," losing to a team that managed all of 3 points this week and a vikings squad that looks PRETTY beatable right now will do that.

 

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4 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

I'm not fussed about the number one seed. That may be blasphemous but we've just got to get to the post season. Then anything can happen.

 

Yes, McDermott doesn't have a great record away from OP in the post season but we were a blown coverage away from the Championship game. We could have made the same error at home.

 

Get everyone fit, ease Josh back to his best self and we'll be a threat wherever we play.

I think our team was a tier below where we are now when we played all those away playoff games… assuming we get some defensive players back from injuries.  
 

it’s not like we had a team that should’ve won and lost just because they were in the road in most of those games 

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6 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Honestly I think posters here have a form of PTSD where they can't be happy unless they find something to be overly negative about and ignore anything positive.

 

It's honestly strange and I wonder if they act like that with their families. Just bizarre.

 

Plenty of people are happy with the win. But people like to talk football. Pointing out the obvious & discussing it isn't PTSD or indicative of people being negative... so dramatic.

 

Discussion & speculation is what this board is for. It's not all "Rah! Rah! Bills best everrrr!" and talking about issues doesn't make you a bad fan.

 

I'll always think back to that thread before the GB game where some tweet was arrogantly asking why Bills fans aren't more confident (because they weren't out gloating/being cocky thinking we'd steamroll everyone)... Well look how the past month has been!

 

Mocking replies where people sarcastically say "remember the Jags"... as if that could never possibly happen again?? 

 

C'mon. Nobody said the sky is falling. Nobody is saying all hope is lost. Nobody isn't cheering for the team or burning their Josh Alllen jerseys.

 

But for some reason, express concern after a month of your QB struggling, the same one everyone was more than happy to proclaim was BETTER than Mahomes & MVP favorite, you're suddenly "negative," or have PTSD, or have posts psychoanalyzing how that may reflect on their family life? 😑

 

I hope people can just accept not all fans want to just coast by the entire season pretending everything's perfect. Sometimes we like to discuss what we see on the field & speculate on how it impacts our chances going forward. 

 

/ this ends today's Ted Talk

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2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I think our team was a tier below where we are now when we played all those away playoff games… assuming we get some defensive players back from injuries.  
 

it’s not like we had a team that should’ve won and lost just because they were in the road in most of those games 

 

On defense I agree. On offense I think we're weaker at WR than we were last year. Have to hope our RBs are finding a groove.

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10 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

In fairness to "dissenters," losing to a team that managed all of 3 points this week and a vikings squad that looks PRETTY beatable right now will do that.

 

but how many times have they been wrong?

Every week right from the opening possession you’ve got 10-20 people posting about how we’re going to lose and how we should fire everyone 😂

 

cowboys are a lot healthier than us on the defensive side…I think we would’ve had a lot closer to this result if we didn’t lose edmunds and had one or two starters back 

 

And the cowboys looked bad against a packers team that we had beat by halftime.  So you can’t really play that game 

 

 

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Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

but how many times have they been wrong?

Every week right from the opening possession you’ve got 10-20 people posting about how we’re going to lose and how we should fire everyone 😂

 

cowboys are a lot healthier than us on the defensive side…I think we would’ve had a lot closer to this result if we didn’t lose edmunds and had one or two starters back 

 

 

the offense cost us that game with the turnovers.

 

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