RocCityRoller Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 hours ago, eball said: The answer is clear: Ralph was cheap. I knew this was coming A true X-files mystery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Buy a Josh Allen jersey & you'll never have to buy another one. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: You should send this over to Paul Lukas of UniWatch. He loves this kind of stuff. uni-watch.com Absolutely should, Uniwatch is great and this is the perfect oddity for him to look into. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 be or not 2 be? That is the question 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I have the exact jersey you are thinking of ordering, bought it for the same reason you are looking to buy it. Wanted something that wouldnt age, also didnt want to wear the jersey of someone younger than me, always found that odd. Anyways, if you end up getting it make sure to wash it sparingly and hang dry it. The red around the numbers faded on mine and is pink now. On the plus side its a pretty thick material, more like a Hockey Sweater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 hours ago, eball said: The answer is clear: Ralph was cheap. It's actually the correct answer too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I'm getting a mental picture of you in your basement with a whole wall of different pictures connected by pushpins and strings going everywhere and little post-it notes interspersed with things like "Why?'" and "What does this mean?". I hope you haven't been up for 96 hours straight... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLeonard Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 38 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Buy a Josh Allen jersey & you'll never have to buy another one. Kelly's jersey was my first. Second was Bledsoe. Then, Takeo Spikes, followed by Marshawn Lynch, JP Losman (Wife), Paul Posluzsny (Wife), James Hardy, Mario Williams and Stevie Johnson (Wife). Sorry, we're not taking the responsibility of owning a Josh Allen jersey. You're all welcome. 17 minutes ago, The Avenger said: I'm getting a mental picture of you in your basement with a whole wall of different pictures connected by pushpins and strings going everywhere and little post-it notes interspersed with things like "Why?'" and "What does this mean?". I hope you haven't been up for 96 hours straight... Nah, most of this just happened in the past few hours. I knew about the issue with Kelly's jersey and how he only wore the box in 86 for quite a while now. But then, I saw the game from 87 and saw others wearing the box, while Kelly was in the diagonal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Wow, I thought I was a perfectionist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I ignored this thread because of the title. But, reconsidered it. Now I need closure on this historical numerical mystery snafu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 People are giving the OP a lot of guff, but I feel like it's reasonable to want a jersey that is an authentic replica of the home jersey Kelly actually wore in 1990. As to how to find one or why the issue came up to begin with, I cannot answer. I do see some blue home Kelly jerseys on EBay with the correct diagonal 2, but I am not sure of their authenticity or lack thereof. Aside from rolling the dice on one of those, the only other thing I can think of would be to send an e-mail to the Bills store. I doubt it would work, but it's worth a shot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLeonard Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 49 minutes ago, Logic said: People are giving the OP a lot of guff, but I feel like it's reasonable to want a jersey that is an authentic replica of the home jersey Kelly actually wore in 1990. As to how to find one or why the issue came up to begin with, I cannot answer. I do see some blue home Kelly jerseys on EBay with the correct diagonal 2, but I am not sure of their authenticity or lack thereof. Aside from rolling the dice on one of those, the only other thing I can think of would be to send an e-mail to the Bills store. I doubt it would work, but it's worth a shot. Honestly, I'm not bothered by people getting a kick out of it. It's just one of the quirks that I have that 9 out of 10 people probably didn't even realize until this post. The thing is, Mitchell & Ness also makes the 1994 throwback authentic jerseys, which DOES have the correct 2. Essentially, all I want is that, without the anniversary patches. Most times I've looked on Ebay, the closest I can come is used and I'd just prefer a new one, if at all possible. I suppose I could try emailing the store, but my guess is, whoever gets the emails will probably know less about the difference in the 2s than the people here, or worse, they'll try to convince me to buy a #18 Case Keenum jersey, so "you don't have to worry about which 2 is on it if it's an 8 instead!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 5 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: I knew this was coming A true X-files mystery! so the Bills we’ve been watching are not really the Bills? Or..the old Bills were not really there?...my head is spinning…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 How about buying a different jersey that doesn't have this weird number problem on it? There are more jerseys out there with different numbers. Pick another player. It's clearly annoying you, so I don't recommend buying it, though that is what most people would do, and it wouldn't bother them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Someday Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) Take look at the team photo from 1988. 4 players in front row with #s in the 20s and they each alternate styles. Then it keeps alternating with #s 42, 52 & 62. Very strange indeed. Maybe buy the jersey from 1990 and update the tag to show 1986? Edited October 25, 2022 by Maybe Someday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 11 hours ago, MJS said: From the pictures it looks like the box 2 is always the first number and the diagonal 2 is the second. Who was number 22? Gotta see it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: Who was number 22? Gotta see it! It was a dude I don’t remember named John Hagy. Diagonal 2s https://www.gettyimages.ch/detail/nachrichtenfoto/safety-john-hagy-of-the-buffalo-bills-watches-from-the-nachrichtenfoto/80683067?language=fr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: It was a dude I don’t remember named John Hagy. Diagonal 2s https://www.gettyimages.ch/detail/nachrichtenfoto/safety-john-hagy-of-the-buffalo-bills-watches-from-the-nachrichtenfoto/80683067?language=fr I remember Hagy. White dude... safety. He was small but packed a wallop. Good college player, just not quite talented enough for the NFL. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 hours ago, BLeonard said: Honestly, I'm not bothered by people getting a kick out of it. It's just one of the quirks that I have that 9 out of 10 people probably didn't even realize until this post. The thing is, Mitchell & Ness also makes the 1994 throwback authentic jerseys, which DOES have the correct 2. Essentially, all I want is that, without the anniversary patches. Most times I've looked on Ebay, the closest I can come is used and I'd just prefer a new one, if at all possible. I suppose I could try emailing the store, but my guess is, whoever gets the emails will probably know less about the difference in the 2s than the people here, or worse, they'll try to convince me to buy a #18 Case Keenum jersey, so "you don't have to worry about which 2 is on it if it's an 8 instead!" I’m loving this thread. Interesting stuff, especially the part about Flip Johnson wearing a jersey that has the TV numbers on the shoulders while everyone else was wearing them on their sleeves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: I remember Hagy. White dude... safety. He was small but packed a wallop. Good college player, just not quite talented enough for the NFL. Nailed it. Hagy was a S who could hit like a ton of bricks. The 6 or so times he was in the correct position he did! 🤣 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 You got taken. It happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thronethinker Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) I have an authentic Kelly Jersey from 1990 and its a Champion with diagonal heat transfer #2. It also only has one stripe on the sleeve. It looks like possibly the 2 stripe jerseys have the box 2s and are likely not Champion heat transfer jerseys. Edited October 26, 2022 by thronethinker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I think they just turned 5s upside down when they ran out of 2s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Pizza. Gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holla83 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 That jersey has always bothered me too. My Kelly throwback has the NFL 75 and Bills 35 patches on it. I like it but I agree on the Super Bowl XXV jersey. If you order a knockoff, maybe ask if they can leave the patches off. The other thing about the jerseys from that era that I always wondered about is why a small amount of players had 2 stripes on the sleeves rather than one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 On 10/25/2022 at 6:04 AM, BLeonard said: After buying jerseys every few years, only to see the player get traded, cut, etc, I decided that, if I ever bought another jersey, it'd be a throwback. Most likely, a Jim Kelly jersey. But, I don't want the road Super Bowl XXV jersey, for obvious reasons. I also don't want the 1994 version with the NFL 75th anniversary and Bills 35th anniversary patches (they had a losing season that year, so not really a fan). Essentially, I just want a blue 90's Kelly jersey with no extra patches. The problem is, pretty much every other throwback Kelly jersey is wrong. Let me explain: The first picture is the "Mitchell & Ness Legacy Replica." This is the one on the Bills shop site. The tag on the bottom reads "1990 Jim Kelly." But, it always looked wrong to me. After watching a clip of the 1990 AFC Championship, I figured out why. The second picture is a screenshot of that game. Look at the "2" on Kelly's jersey. It's a straight diagonal line connecting the top of the number to the bottom, where the jersey in the first picture is more of a "box" #2, much like the Bills wear today. So, I backtracked a bit and found that Kelly only wore the "box" 2 in 1986, his first season. But, while watching a game from 1987 (Dolphins at Bills) I noticed that there were players simultaneously on the field, some with jerseys that had the "box" 2 and others that had the "diagonal" 2. Pics 3 and 4 show #25 & #27 (Roland Mitchell & Ron Pitts) wearing the "box" 2 and #52 (John Kaiser) wearing the "diagonal" 2. So, why was this? I know this was before the NFL decided to start fining guys for wearing socks that were too high and/or the wrong color, but I'm trying to think of a reason why they'd not replace all of the jerseys at the same time. Even if you're gonna phase them in, or didn't wanna buy all new jerseys at once, wouldn't you change all of the home jerseys one year and road the next or something like that? Thanks for posting about this-the “wrong” number 2 on throwback jerseys for Kelly in particular are very irritating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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