Shaw66 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Jay_Fixit said: Just like Tua will be there for you one day. Oh, my. The point of doing charity is NOT to get something in return. That's business, not charity. Charity is the not selfish, at least not in the usual way. It's the notion that everyone should give to help others without expecting anything in return. Charity is selfish in a different way - if we all are in the habit of helping others, then someone, somewhere will be there to help you when the time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 4 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: By all means, do whatever you wish with your money. But these “charity drives” are starting to smell like performative stunts led by these very online “leaders” of Bills Mafia that I see all over twitter. The ones interacting with Bills media personalities and the like. By and large, they seem like clout chasers and nothing will motivate me to donate to something less than seeing Del or one of the “Mafia Babes” signal boosting it on social media. But that’s just me. EDIT: This is exactly what I’m talking about. It’s not “negative” to suggest people do a little research and give responsibly. Do not just “give where your heart leads you.” Use your head a little bit too. Another Mafia guy virtue signaling online. It may be performative for those who are trying to draw attention to Tua's concussions. However, more attention should be drawn to them given Miami's handling of the situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen2 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 17 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Because all of the 15 true Miami dolphin fans that there are spend their money on meth and guns like every other Florida resident. Everyone else whondawns their gear simply does so because it's discounted at Goodwill where their momma shops. HEY HEY HEY I'm a Florida resident and I don't spend all THAT much on meth and guns, I stay within my recreation budget. With that being said ... your post is a bit condescending don't cha think ... stay classy my friend. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Shaw66 said: Charities have employees who do the work of the charity. They get paid a salary and benefits. Do you expect all those people to work for free? From my experience, most people who work for charities like these are women, with children. They're working 40-hours a week. Do you think they should just work for free? Charitable organizations help people who need help, and not the people who work for them. You need a better excuse not to give to charities than "administrative overhead." You seem to be confusing the salary of people who work for a charity with the administrative costs of a charity. They are two completely different things. An employee's salary, if the employee is working directly with the community, is not administrative costs. It is part of program delivery. Administrative costs and fundraising costs are where you run into problems. Lots of charities have friends and family members that get rich off fundraising and administrative costs. It is very common for foundations that distribute money to actual charities to have enormous administrative and fundraising costs and all they do is take in money and give it to other charities, who then have their own costs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Gen2 said: HEY HEY HEY I'm a Florida resident and I don't spend all THAT much on meth and guns, I stay within my recreation budget. With that being said ... your post is a bit condescending don't cha think ... stay classy my friend. Only if you're so sensitive to care what a rando on the internet says in jest. 🤷🏼♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Only if you're so sensitive to care what a rando on the internet says in jest. 🤷🏼♂️ Yeah, I mean I'm more of a cocaine fan myself...but ya like what ya like..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, Bills2022 said: You seem to be confusing the salary of people who work for a charity with the administrative costs of a charity. They are two completely different things. An employee's salary, if the employee is working directly with the community, is not administrative costs. It is part of program delivery. Administrative costs and fundraising costs are where you run into problems. Lots of charities have friends and family members that get rich off fundraising and administrative costs. It is very common for foundations that distribute money to actual charities to have enormous administrative and fundraising costs and all they do is take in money and give it to other charities, who then have their own costs. I don't deny that it happens. But there is a lot of oversight, including federal tax laws, and a lot of people watching most charities. That all tends to keep the abuses relatively low. That includes the watchdog agencies that publish lots of data. And what I said about administrative costs still holds. Someone earning $200,000 a year as CFO or CEO of a foundation with $200,000,000 in assets earns every nickel, but to some critics it looks like a lot. And, indirectly, those services are provided for the benefit of people in need. If you take all of the charitable dollars given in the country and compare it to total administrative cost, the amount spend on administration on average is not inappropriate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Shaw66 said: I don't deny that it happens. But there is a lot of oversight, including federal tax laws, and a lot of people watching most charities. That all tends to keep the abuses relatively low. That includes the watchdog agencies that publish lots of data. And what I said about administrative costs still holds. Someone earning $200,000 a year as CFO or CEO of a foundation with $200,000,000 in assets earns every nickel, but to some critics it looks like a lot. And, indirectly, those services are provided for the benefit of people in need. If you take all of the charitable dollars given in the country and compare it to total administrative cost, the amount spend on administration on average is not inappropriate. There actually is very little oversight. Watchdog agencies are full of charities they can't evaluate because data is not provided. In fact, the US government can do very little to a charity that has 50% administrative costs as long as the charity shows where the money goes. It is up to the donor to figure it out. Some of the largest charities in America have very high administrative and fundraising costs with much of that money being spent with businesses that their family and friends operate. You have to be very careful. For example, where is all the data on Tua's foundation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bills2022 said: There actually is very little oversight. Watchdog agencies are full of charities they can't evaluate because data is not provided. In fact, the US government can do very little to a charity that has 50% administrative costs as long as the charity shows where the money goes. It is up to the donor to figure it out. Some of the largest charities in America have very high administrative and fundraising costs with much of that money being spent with businesses that their family and friends operate. You have to be very careful. For example, where is all the data on Tua's foundation? Chartiy Navigator says the typical charity spends 75% on program/grant making. 15% on admin and 10% on fundraising. So that means most, probably the great majority of charities, are 60% or better. Maybe Tua will take all my money and give his oline a vacation in Hawaii, but the odds are much better that my $17 is going to a good cause. If I'm writing a $100,000 check, sure, I'll do some research. For $100, I'll trust people. Edited October 1, 2022 by Shaw66 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Because all of the 15 true Miami dolphin fans that there are spend their money on meth and guns like every other Florida resident. Everyone else whondawns their gear simply does so because it's discounted at Goodwill where their momma shops. Comical when NY residents try to make fun of other places like Florida. It's like people are competely unaware of the degeneracy of NY, violent criminals are set free no bail just to commit more crimes. The lack of self awareness is just hilarious. 34 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Chartiy Navigator says the typical charity spends 75% on program/grant making. 15% on admin and 10% on fundraising. So that means most, probably the great majority of charities, are 60% or better. Maybe Tua will take all my money and give his oline a vacation in Hawaii, but the odds are much better that my $17 is going to a good cause. If I'm writing a $100,000 check, sure, I'll do some research. For $100, I'll trust people. Lol you dont math, do you? Tua isn't Giving your money to a direct impact, it's being funneled to yet another charity. So if both Tua Fund and who ut gives it to are both typical charities then that's 75% of your 75%... so of your $17, only $9.56 goes to cause, $7.44 goes to cost. Edited October 1, 2022 by ArtVandalay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: Comical when NY residents try to make fun of other places like Florida. It's like people are competely unaware of the degeneracy of NY, violent criminals are set free no bail just to commit more crimes. The lack of self awareness is just hilarious. Lol you dont math, do you? Tua isn't Giving your money to a direct impact, it's being funneled to yet another charity. So if both Tua Fund and who ut gives it to are both typical charities then that's 75% of your 75%... so of your $17, only $9.56 goes to cause, $7.44 goes to cost. I'm not in NY and have not been since I was like 8 years old in 80's. I can give you a hint to where I am and have been for almost 20 years. We are the first time flight, we are the 43rd in education. Don't be so sensitive to a simple joke. There is no need to be hostile, or serious. Nor the need to get political... Because I'd agree with you. NY is a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Shaw66 said: I'm not going to look into. I'll trust the guy with my $17. He'll do what he thinks best with the money or as occurs sometimes, he'll misuse it. As I said, I'll trust him. Trust makes the world work. Misplaced trust also allows fraudsters to operate. And the non-profit sector is riddled with them. Again, do whatever you want with your money. But putting a little more effort into research and a little less faith in trust can help ensure your money is actually helping someone else. Edited October 1, 2022 by JoPoy88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 2 hours ago, ArtVandalay said: Comical when NY residents try to make fun of other places like Florida. It's like people are competely unaware of the degeneracy of NY, violent criminals are set free no bail just to commit more crimes. The lack of self awareness is just hilarious. Lol you dont math, do you? Tua isn't Giving your money to a direct impact, it's being funneled to yet another charity. So if both Tua Fund and who ut gives it to are both typical charities then that's 75% of your 75%... so of your $17, only $9.56 goes to cause, $7.44 goes to cost. Both of those organizations have administrative costs that must be met somehow. My 25% ti both helps them cover their fundraising and admin costs. Remarkable how much you guys will argue to try to convince people not to do good. Good night boys. Knock yourselves out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Does Lamar Jackson have a charity we can donate to when he ***** his pants during the game and has to sprint to the locker room again?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Gen2 said: HEY HEY HEY I'm a Florida resident and I don't spend all THAT much on meth and guns, I stay within my recreation budget. With that being said ... your post is a bit condescending don't cha think ... stay classy my friend. Hope you are staying safe from the storm not your guns hopefully I don’t have to say that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I donated $17.01. I'm soft and proud of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Draconator said: I donated $17.01. I'm soft and proud of it. I donated the same amount. By the way, have there been any reports on how much Bills fans donated (to the extent that they can tell). Given that this is a Buffalo thing, I would be surprised if Bills fans were the most of any one group. Edited October 1, 2022 by Peter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RyanC883 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 On 9/29/2022 at 11:32 PM, Allen2Diggs said: After the brutal injury Tua suffered tonight, there's been a lot of discussion with how the Dolphins handled his injury. More importantly, Tua is a human being dealing with an injury that could affect him for the rest of his life. Let's give him some support and show everyone why Bills fans are the best in the world! Tua has a charity called the Tua Foundation that supports a wide variety of Youth programs. Let's send in donations in the amount of $17 to show him that we are pulling for him to have a full recovery! https://www.tuafoundation.org/donate/ good idea. Is Josh crying on his shoulder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 12 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: Does Lamar Jackson have a charity we can donate to when he ***** his pants during the game and has to sprint to the locker room again?? Yes, he does. Bills fans have donated to it last year. Blessings in a Backpack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 13 hours ago, Shaw66 said: Both of those organizations have administrative costs that must be met somehow. My 25% ti both helps them cover their fundraising and admin costs. Remarkable how much you guys will argue to try to convince people not to do good. Good night boys. Knock yourselves out There is zero reason why a charity needs to take 25% of donations. It’s absurd. They cry “admin costs” as a way to pay themselves a salary. There are plenty of charities that give 99% or more of donations and don’t take it for “admin costs”. https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/20-incredible-charities-that-give-99-of-the-money-they-get-to-the-actual-cause-2017-12-28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 16 hours ago, Shaw66 said: Chartiy Navigator says the typical charity spends 75% on program/grant making. 15% on admin and 10% on fundraising. So that means most, probably the great majority of charities, are 60% or better. Maybe Tua will take all my money and give his oline a vacation in Hawaii, but the odds are much better that my $17 is going to a good cause. If I'm writing a $100,000 check, sure, I'll do some research. For $100, I'll trust people. That number is for A-Rated charities. Low-rated charities can be below 25%. Everyone should go to the top Charity Rating Organizations before they donate. Especially when it comes to Veteran's charities. Some are the best and some are the worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 15 hours ago, Shaw66 said: Both of those organizations have administrative costs that must be met somehow. My 25% ti both helps them cover their fundraising and admin costs. Remarkable how much you guys will argue to try to convince people not to do good. Good night boys. Knock yourselves out Shaw, what you are not understanding is that Tua's org doesn't have a direct impact. If you wanted to give to one of the other non-profits he gives grants to you could just give directly to that org and have a bigger impact. Also many non-profits meet their admin costs in different ways. Good ones with have 90% or more of your funds go to the cause. You say you are doing good with your money but are you really? You're throwing away 44% if both are typical, maybe more. I don't think asking folks to think about their "giving" in a way that has the most impact is a bad thing. Do you care about yourself or the cause? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Bills fans' constant need for attention never ceases to amaze me. This may take the cake. Holy crap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 20 hours ago, Shaw66 said: I don't deny that it happens. But there is a lot of oversight, including federal tax laws, and a lot of people watching most charities. That all tends to keep the abuses relatively low. That includes the watchdog agencies that publish lots of data. And what I said about administrative costs still holds. Someone earning $200,000 a year as CFO or CEO of a foundation with $200,000,000 in assets earns every nickel, but to some critics it looks like a lot. And, indirectly, those services are provided for the benefit of people in need. If you take all of the charitable dollars given in the country and compare it to total administrative cost, the amount spend on administration on average is not inappropriate. This isn't directly to this post but your overall presentation. Have you ever worked with or served on a board for a non-prof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: This isn't directly to this post but your overall presentation. Have you ever worked with or served on a board for a non-prof? I currently do, what's the question? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, WideNine said: I currently do, what's the question? Just curious. Just curious why he seems to want to speak so knowledgeably. Non-profs are kind of gross. I have been on 4 executive boards, serving 4 different posts as an officer. It's amazing to see how money is cooked and booked. How one hand shakes another non prof hand, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Just curious why he seems to want to speak so knowledgeably. Non-profs are kind of gross. I have been on 4 executive boards, serving 4 different posts as an officer. It's amazing to see how money is cooked and booked. How one hand shakes another non prof hand, etc. Out of sheer curiosity, since you have been on 4 EB, why didn't you divest from this model after the first? Also, what are the NP where you were on EB? If they are as shady as you claim, they must be taken to account. NP is no joke, and if someone is breaking the rules, then they need to face consequences. Edited October 1, 2022 by TheCockSportif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyab1974 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Awwww! This is wonderful! 🥰 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Just curious why he seems to want to speak so knowledgeably. Non-profs are kind of gross. I have been on 4 executive boards, serving 4 different posts as an officer. It's amazing to see how money is cooked and booked. How one hand shakes another non prof hand, etc. Would you please take your garbage to the politics board? Is this place moderated at all now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Just curious why he seems to want to speak so knowledgeably. Non-profs are kind of gross. I have been on 4 executive boards, serving 4 different posts as an officer. It's amazing to see how money is cooked and booked. How one hand shakes another non prof hand, etc. I serve on one now and it has state and federal guidance/oversight - you have to submit and be granted approval from the Secretary of the State office, and we have to file taxes each years where "book cooking" is a bit far-fetched at least in my experience with smaller non-profits. Of course folks should keep in mind that there are several different types of non-profit organizations and not all are charitable or provide a lot of insight into their sources of income or spend. https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/private-foundations/types-of-foundations For the charitable non-profits I have worked with there is a lot of volunteerism, but I have not personally seen nafarious/malicious mismanagement. Just some incompetence by well-meaning individuals in over their heads. For the one I serve on now. We have outside CPAs to manage the books/tax filings, we keep expenses in line with state and federal guidance for anything per diem related and account for them, file the appropriate tax forms for employees, have fixed expense categories that are easly justified, and we are expected to present a transparent P&L at the end of each fiscal year which we post for members to review. We set a goal of keeping a baseline budget of X number of months of operation expenses for disruptions (like Covid) and at the end of each year determine if we are running in the red or in the black and adjust expeditures or fundraising to keep a balanced budget. Well-meaning folks looking to donate to charities should just do a bit of due-dilligence before committing funds to any venture if they care about how the funds are going to be used. Edited October 1, 2022 by WideNine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, WideNine said: I have served on one and it has state and federal guidance/oversight - you have to submit and be granted approval from the Secretary of the State office, and we have to file taxes each years where "book cooking" is a bit far-fetched at least in my experience with smaller non-profits. Of course folks should keep in mind that there are several different types of non-profit organizations and not all are charitable or provide a lot of insight into their sources of income or spend. https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/private-foundations/types-of-foundations For the charitable non-profits I have worked with there is a lot of volunteerism, but I have not personally seen nafarious/malicious mismanagement. Just some incompetence by well-meaning individuals in over their heads. For the one I serve on now. We have outside CPAs to manage the books/tax filings, we keep expenses in line with state and federal guidance for anything per diem related and account for them, file the appropriate tax forms for employees, have fixed expense categories that are easly justified, and we are expected to present a transparent P&L at the end of each fiscal year which we post for members to review. We set a goal of keeping a baseline budget of X number of months of operation expenses for disruptions (like Covid) and at the end of each year determine if we are running in the red or in the black and adjust expeditures or fundraising to keep a balanced budget. Well-meaning folks looking to donate to charities should just do a bit of due-dilligence before committing funds to any venture if they care about how the funds are going to be used. I generally agree with the bold, and that is why I never give to strange requests from groups I’ve never heard of. I basically have three categories. Like @Shaw66 I’ll throw $100 at the Andy Dalton Foundation or for Luke Knox without blinking. If we are talking serious money, there is more scrutiny. Then there is the “exception category” where I just know it’s a good cause without too much research. My wife was on the Board at SJ Jude Children’s Hospital for years. They are in that category, and I’m sure we can all name a few others. We have ours, and I’m sure others have theirs. Still, big money means you’d better know who you are dealing with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Boyst62 said: This isn't directly to this post but your overall presentation. Have you ever worked with or served on a board for a non-prof? I have chaired the board of two of the largest urban nonprofits in the country. I've also created and helped run privatee foundations like Tua's. I've also earned with financial advisors like Tua's. I've also created and operated a public charity. I know I don't need to look up data about Tua's foundation to give it $17. I gave a Boy Scout $5 this morning. I hope $1.25 isn't going to administration, but I don't really know. Maybe his scout master is going to spend it on booze. Edited October 1, 2022 by Shaw66 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Process said: Bills fans' constant need for attention never ceases to amaze me. This may take the cake. Holy crap. Yep. And like clockwork: reply after reply of people posting their donation confirmation in here. Exactly what I was saying earlier in the thread. It’s crass, insincere and embarrassing. And this account is probably the biggest promoter of these stunts. Edited October 1, 2022 by JoPoy88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Yep. And like clockwork: reply after reply of people posting their donation confirmation in here. Exactly what I was saying earlier in the thread. It’s crass, insincere and embarrassing. And this account is probably the biggest promoter of this ****. It's absurd. The Bills have a good team now. Let's stop being so damn insecure. Guy.....not on the bills.....gets injured against a team....thats not the bills......creating a situation that......has absolutely nothing to do with the Bills. "Bills Mafia, you know what to do" Oh shut up. We don't need to cry for attention anymore, we get plenty of it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Process said: Bills fans' constant need for attention never ceases to amaze me. This may take the cake. Holy crap. Maybe some of the people are looking for attention and maybe some just like to feel like they are part of something bigger that is good. If you do not want to give, no problem, but why judge people's intentions when you do not actually know them. I personally have not given to one of these Bills pop-up charitable things, because my wife and I have certain charities that we are passionate about that we give significantly to. I am happy with what I do, and these people perhaps are happy with what they do. Criticizing people helping others (for whatever their internal motivations are) does not seem to be a good use of time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: Maybe some of the people are looking for attention and maybe some just like to feel like they are part of something bigger that is good. If you do not want to give, no problem, but why judge people's intentions when you do not actually know them. I personally have not given to one of these Bills pop-up charitable things, because my wife and I have certain charities that we are passionate about that we give significantly to. I am happy with what I do, and these people perhaps are happy with what they do. Criticizing people helping others (for whatever their internal motivations are) does not seem to be a good use of time. if people just gave to good causes they care about quietly with some dignity then there’d be nothing to criticize would there be? No we need to tell everybody we donated to join in on the fun. Post our receipt from the website to virtue signal. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Shaw66 said: I have chaired the board of two of the largest urban nonprofits in the country. I've also created and helped run privatee foundations like Tua's. I've also earned with financial advisors like Tua's. I've also created and operated a public charity. I know I don't need to look up data about Tua's foundation to give it $17. I gave a Boy Scout $5 this morning. I hope $1.25 isn't going to administration, but I don't really know. Maybe his scout master is going to spend it on booze. I am with you about the smaller dollar donations. I don't give a lot of thought to those and just figure I am paying it forward - karma and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Shaw66 said: I have chaired the board of two of the largest urban nonprofits in the country. I've also created and helped run privatee foundations like Tua's. I've also earned with financial advisors like Tua's. I've also created and operated a public charity. I know I don't need to look up data about Tua's foundation to give it $17. I gave a Boy Scout $5 this morning. I hope $1.25 isn't going to administration, but I don't really know. Maybe his scout master is going to spend it on booze. I am glad and happy you're able to do this with an educated basis. We disagree on the value of some non-profs, perhaps but the greater good is still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Would you please take your garbage to the politics board? Is this place moderated at all now? This was not a political post nor is it justified to call an opinion other than tours garbage. That's disrespectful and doesn't allow for open discussion of topics. JMO of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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