FireChans Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) Edited September 18, 2022 by FireChans 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Tahhhrod has made tons of $$$ for a mediocre career. Hope he makes more now. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, wppete said: Tahhhrod has made tons of $$$ for a mediocre career. Hope he makes more now. Why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Tyrod should have had someone read him the procedure consent.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 $5M. LOL! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Tyrod should have had someone read him the procedure consent.... Agreed but those consents a decent lawyer could drive a truck thru.. just saying... I work in the med field and have talked to a few lawyers regarding them... however docs are covered by insurance which likely will settle... more about taking a shot across the bow of the doc publicly so others are warned... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 He's on his 5th team in 6 seasons. The Giants just handed him over 8 million (minimum). There must have been at least 4 other doctors that have ended his career "as a starting QB". lol Defense expert will testify to the obvious: subsequent chest xrays showed resolution of pneumothorax and he could have played at that point. Charger official will testify to the obvious: even knowing that TT was ready to play, he was replaced by an an infinitely better QB. Anyone with internet access will testify to the obvious: TT lost his starting to a job to a rookie after injury Week 3 Cleveland and again, due to injury, to rookie in Houston week 2. He has never entered free agency as a starting QB. good luck ! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, North Buffalo said: Agreed but those consents a decent lawyer could drive a truck thru.. just saying... I work in the med field and have talked to a few lawyers regarding them... however docs are covered by insurance which likely will settle... more about taking a shot across the bow of the doc publicly so others are warned... just sayin...not necessarily true. Plaintiff would have to prove he didn't sign the consent, he wasn't competent to sing, he was coerced to sign or he didn't understand the plain language of the consent. If there was no consent and he just walked over and did a thoracic block, then there is a case. Insurers don't like to settle cases like this. Pneumothorax is a well known complication of this procedure. TT would make an extremely unsympathetic witness in the jury box ($65 million and counting earned). Plus, as I described above, he can't make an persuasive argument that his career as a free agent starter ever existed, let alone was harmed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Tyrod should have had someone read him the procedure consent.... 23 minutes ago, Doc said: $5M. LOL! This was really my bay signal to the unholy triumvirate to tear this apart. Was not disappointed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: just sayin...not necessarily true. Plaintiff would have to prove he didn't sign the consent, he wasn't competent to sing, he was coerced to sign or he didn't understand the plain language of the consent. If there was no consent and he just walked over and did a thoracic block, then there is a case. Insurers don't like to settle cases like this. Pneumothorax is a well known complication of this procedure. TT would make an extremely unsympathetic witness in the jury box ($65 million and counting earned). Plus, as I described above, he can't make an persuasive argument that his career as a free agent starter ever existed, let alone was harmed. $5M in lost wages would still be well within the backup QB range though. So he would not have to claim it cost him a starting QB contract, only a better contract as a back up. Also I am in commercial insurance and insurance companies almost always settle cases like this one. Last I saw only 7% of malpractice cases reached a jury verdict. Jury awards can be ridiculous so insurance companies avoid them in almost every instance. As long as TT’s lawyer has a reasonable expectation of what this suit is really worth, there will be a settlement. Edited September 18, 2022 by BarleyNY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 36 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Tyrod should have had someone read him the procedure consent.... Maybe he seeked legal advice from Lamar Jackson and his mom. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 I’m in the minority here but I’m less impressed with Tyrod’s character than his on field play and that bar isn’t set very high I might add. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 45 minutes ago, FireChans said: Get all your money Tyrod 😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Most malpractice insurance policies cap at $1mm per incident. Maybe he has a higher limit due to the work he does with professional athletes. The max on the malpractice insurance is usually the max that will be settled for in a lawsuit. Lawyers want the easy money, the insurance money. Any verdict over that amount and they have to go after the doctor's personal assets and they almost never do that, it costs too much and takes too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 I love the framing. Dudes realize Tyrod doing this coz he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, FireChans said: This was really my bay signal to the unholy triumvirate to tear this apart. Was not disappointed. ? 5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: $5M in lost wages would still be well within the backup QB range though. So he would not have to claim it cost him a starting QB contract, only a better contract as a back up. Also I am in commercial insurance and insurance companies almost always settle cases like this one. Last I saw only 7% of malpractice cases reached a jury verdict. Jury awards can be ridiculous so insurance companies avoid them in almost every instance. As long as TT’s lawyer has a reasonable expectation of what this suit is really worth, there will be a settlement. He would have to prove that he would have kept Herbert, the offensive rookie of the year in 2020, off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: $5M in lost wages would still be well within the backup QB range though. So he would not have to claim it cost him a starting QB contract, only a better contract as a back up. Also I am in commercial insurance and insurance companies almost always settle cases like this one. Last I saw only 7% of malpractice cases reached a jury verdict. Jury awards can be ridiculous so insurance companies avoid them in almost every instance. As long as TT’s lawyer has a reasonable expectation of what this suit is really worth, there will be a settlement. He is claiming it--in fact it is the basis of his lawsuit (explicitly they are describing this as the "loss" he suffered): "As he returned to free agency," the lawsuit contends, "he entered as a back-up quarterback as opposed to a starting quarterback. The economic difference between a starting quarterback's salary and a back-up quarterback salary is at least $5,000,000 and is more than likely much greater. The exact amount of such past and future loss is unknown to [Taylor] at this time, and he will ask leave of this Court for permission to amend this Complaint to set forth the total amount when ascertained." Since he lost no wages in 2020 (he was paid 5 million whether he started the whole season or not),he is suing for the money he would have made as a "starter entering Free Agency".. This is also a dumb claim because as a free agent, the Giants had the option to make him their starter. They didn't. Prior to that, he lost his stating job in Houston--twice in one year--to a mediocre QB. He cannot prove in court that he would have been signed as a starter anywhere, as the evidence proves he could not. So his claim is baseless. Insurers will be inclined to settle if there is obvious egregiously bad care or deviation form standard practice and/or catastrophic outcome--a clearly indefensible case. The lawyers are attacking the consent--as I said, it there was none then this gets settled on that alone (but for nowhere close to what he is seeking, because those damages don't exist). If there was a consent then I bet this gets defended for the reasons above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: he should have just applied a balm... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Considering Baltimore, Buffalo, Cleveland, LAC and Houston have all moved on from him as their QB, I think he'll have a hard time getting much sympathy from a judge or jury about losing out on starter money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 He should!! This is basically what medical malpractice is. It is textbook. This is a pretty easy, and well-deserved, check. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, Doc said: He would have to prove that he would have kept Herbert, the offensive rookie of the year in 2020, off the bench. TT was starting the game the day it happened and it certainly appeared that the plan was for him to start moving forward. For how long would likely have depended on his performance. How successful he’d have been is certainly debatable, but I don’t think there is any debate that it cost him his chance. That doesn’t necessarily mean that his lawyers would clear the other legal hurdles and he’d win a judgement, but I think the insurance companies would prefer to settle if the number makes sense. Unless the insurance carrier lawyers think they have the most iron clad case they’d much rather come to something like a $2M settlement than take their chances with a jury decision. As for the doctor’s insurance, he’s a team doctor working with athletes making tens of millions of dollars a year. No way he’s not carrying a huge amount of coverage. Hell, it would be a requirement of the team before a doc got near their players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He should!! This is basically what medical malpractice is. It is textbook. This is a pretty easy, and well-deserved, check. Legitimately not. But unfortunately I’m not sure a jury wouldn’t feel the same as you. Edited September 18, 2022 by FireChans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 What an ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He should!! This is basically what medical malpractice is. It is textbook. This is a pretty easy, and well-deserved, check. It wasn't malpractice: it was a known complication of the procedure. 7 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: TT was starting the game the day it happened and it certainly appeared that the plan was for him to start moving forward. For how long would likely have depended on his performance. How successful he’d have been is certainly debatable, but I don’t think there is any debate that it cost him his chance. That doesn’t necessarily mean that his lawyers would clear the other legal hurdles and he’d win a judgement, but I think the insurance companies would prefer to settle if the number makes sense. Unless the insurance carrier lawyers think they have the most iron clad case they’d much rather come to something like a $2M settlement than take their chances with a jury decision. As for the doctor’s insurance, he’s a team doctor working with athletes making tens of millions of dollars a year. No way he’s not carrying a huge amount of coverage. Hell, it would be a requirement of the team before a doc got near their players. The team will say that their plan was for him to start off as the starter, but not necessarily remain the starter. And again the fact that Herbert was voted offensive rookie of the year reveals that he didn't lose his starting job to some schlub. Meanwhile he'd lost 2 other starting jobs previously. Edited September 18, 2022 by Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasaluki Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 I mean the doctor punctured his lung I'm shocked he didn't sue earlier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Is it so difficult to spell his name correctly in the frickin Title? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He should!! This is basically what medical malpractice is. It is textbook. This is a pretty easy, and well-deserved, check. Explain how this is "textbook".... 10 minutes ago, Pasaluki said: I mean the doctor punctured his lung I'm shocked he didn't sue earlier. he did. last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 He is 100% in the right here...Chargers will likely settle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: TT was starting the game the day it happened and it certainly appeared that the plan was for him to start moving forward. For how long would likely have depended on his performance. How successful he’d have been is certainly debatable, but I don’t think there is any debate that it cost him his chance. That doesn’t necessarily mean that his lawyers would clear the other legal hurdles and he’d win a judgement, but I think the insurance companies would prefer to settle if the number makes sense. Unless the insurance carrier lawyers think they have the most iron clad case they’d much rather come to something like a $2M settlement than take their chances with a jury decision. As for the doctor’s insurance, he’s a team doctor working with athletes making tens of millions of dollars a year. No way he’s not carrying a huge amount of coverage. Hell, it would be a requirement of the team before a doc got near their players. everything about his career after Buffalo ends this debate. He has routinely been replaced by rookies---this happened before the Chargers and after. 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: He is 100% in the right here...Chargers will likely settle are they being sued? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 35 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: What an ass. 🤔 Doesn't seem that impressive to me...maybe he should talk to Nikki Minaj? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: He's on his 5th team in 6 seasons. The Giants just handed him over 8 million (minimum). There must have been at least 4 other doctors that have ended his career "as a starting QB". lol Defense expert will testify to the obvious: subsequent chest xrays showed resolution of pneumothorax and he could have played at that point. Charger official will testify to the obvious: even knowing that TT was ready to play, he was replaced by an an infinitely better QB. Anyone with internet access will testify to the obvious: TT lost his starting to a job to a rookie after injury Week 3 Cleveland and again, due to injury, to rookie in Houston week 2. He has never entered free agency as a starting QB. good luck ! in repairing a rib injury should not have punctured a lung. This was a doctor mistake and Tyrol has a right to sue over. i had perforated lungs before. This was an unnecessary complication. It’s why DRs have malpractice insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 He should sue the NFL for ruining his career by setting the 1st down marker at 10 yds past the line of scrimmage. If it would have been 9 yds he could have consitently achieved first downs in three plays with his 3 yard passes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 Just now, djp14150 said: in repairing a rib injury should not have punctured a lung. This was a doctor mistake and Tyrol has a right to sue over. i had perforated lungs before. This was an unnecessary complication. It’s why DRs have malpractice insurance. Lmao we are so ***** @Mr. WEO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Just now, djp14150 said: in repairing a rib injury should not have punctured a lung. This was a doctor mistake and Tyrol has a right to sue over. i had perforated lungs before. This was an unnecessary complication. It’s why DRs have malpractice insurance. He wasn't repairing an injury. As far I can tell it was a nerve block. Tyrod could have simply refused and played without it. When you perforated lungs before, did you tell your patients it was an unnecessary complication and simply settled all your lawsuits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: everything about his career after Buffalo ends this debate. He has routinely been replaced by rookies---this happened before the Chargers and after. are they being sued? Chargers can’t be sued on this. he’s justified to sue. Getting $5M…Thats nuts. Hebert being drafted where he was ….he was going to play that season. That was a certainty unless Tyrol took them to some 1st place record into December….which was unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He wasn't repairing an injury. As far I can tell it was a nerve block. Tyrod could have simply refused and played without it. When you perforated lungs before, did you tell your patients it was an unnecessary complication and simply settled all your lawsuits? So you think a valid defense is that TT had the option to decline the procedure? I promise you that it’s not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He wasn't repairing an injury. As far I can tell it was a nerve block. Tyrod could have simply refused and played without it. When you perforated lungs before, did you tell your patients it was an unnecessary complication and simply settled all your lawsuits? im not a doctor. I had 2 superstructure times when I had perforated lungs in my 20s. i had to go into the ICU each time for monitoring reasons. recovery was not a problem. It was not a long term season ender..but more of 2 game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Just now, djp14150 said: im not a doctor. I had 2 superstructure times when I had perforated lungs in my 20s. i had to go into the ICU each time for monitoring reasons. recovery was not a problem. It was not a long term season ender..but more of 2 game. do you feel that all or any known complications should be sued over? 3 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: So you think a valid defense is that TT had the option to decline the procedure? I promise you that it’s not. Of course it is. It was an elective procedure, not an emergency. Unless TT can prove he was forced to have a procedure he did not agree to and did not consent to, then what is his case? How is it that you are able to "promise" us that you know the circumstances of him having this procedure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: do you feel that all or any known complications should be sued over? mine occurred due to asthma from getting a bad chest cold. Chest cold coughing induced a constant asthma attack that stressed the lungs. the signature of this is feeling small size bubble wrap in cartalidge areas of the neck and ribs. i feel he has a case on the lung. But not $5M. For a regular person this is something where medical costs are covered and the patient might get paid under $10K. i wonder if he is using the same sleaze lawyer….. Edited September 18, 2022 by djp14150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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