YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 They would move everything there for just a two week stay? 2 2 1 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 If they want to go anywhere, they should go back to Fredonia. The great teams of the 80s and 90s used those Fredonia training camps to bond, with the players going out in groups to the bars. No such situation is possible near SJF. I can't believe the Bills would sell fewer tickets to people in NW NY -- Rochester etc -- if training camp wasn't held nearby. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They would move everything there for just a two week stay? Just stay home FFS... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, TBBills said: Just stay home FFS... Yeah really.. Less travel and headache with packing/unpacking etc that can waste time that doesn't have to be wasted. They have been just fine with where they had TC last summer 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just keeping their fingers in the fan base pie, smart business move, wether anyone likes it or not. Go Bills!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 I thought McDermott preferred using their facilities in Orchard Park over St. John Fisher. Looks like the marketing guys won the argument over the football guys. Oh well, I did always enjoy taking the Fam to the training camps at St. John Fisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Don Otreply said: Just keeping their fingers in the fan base pie, smart business move, wether anyone likes it or not. Go Bills!!! Serious question because I've never attended TC, but regarding the fan base comment....Would they not have their "fingers in the fan base pie" staying put for TC? I mean I'm not sure exactly what you mean, are fans not able to attend TC in OP when it's open to public or is it just a better experience for fans at SJF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Wait does this mean the Patriots are getting more comp picks now? (Ok even i think thats enough of that joke lol) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: I thought McDermott preferred using their facilities in Orchard Park over St. John Fisher. Looks like the marketing guys won the argument over the football guys. Oh well, I did always enjoy taking the Fam to the training camps at St. John Fisher. Exactly...you'd think they would want to stay where that top notch facility is that's considered one of the best if not the best in the NFL. But anyway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Donuts and Doritos said: I thought McDermott preferred using their facilities in Orchard Park over St. John Fisher. Looks like the marketing guys won the argument over the football guys. Oh well, I did always enjoy taking the Fam to the training camps at St. John Fisher. But he also commented that he liked what getting away together gave them and how it pulled the team together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 More good news for ra-cha-cha 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Can we just...not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Serious question because I've never attended TC, but regarding the fan base comment....Would they not have their "fingers in the fan base pie" staying put for TC? I mean I'm not sure exactly what you mean, are fans not able to attend TC in OP when it's open to public or is it just a better experience for fans at SJF? They went to SJF to expand their fan base going east, it gave that areas fans an opportunity to see the bills etc, it was a reaching out exercise, and by all accounts it worked. Go Bills!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 I’m sure the players are completely supportive of living in a college dorm rather than their giant houses 🙄 39 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: They went to SJF to expand their fan base going east, it gave that areas fans an opportunity to see the bills etc, it was a reaching out exercise, and by all accounts it worked. Go Bills!!! I’d like to see the numbers, but I have a hard time believing they pick up many(any?) new fans by holding training camp at SJF. How many non-football fans would actually find training camp interesting. I’m a huge football fan and even I find most of it to be pretty boring. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 43 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: They went to SJF to expand their fan base going east, it gave that areas fans an opportunity to see the bills etc, it was a reaching out exercise, and by all accounts it worked. Go Bills!!! 4 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: I’m sure the players are completely supportive of living in a college dorm rather than their giant houses 🙄 I’d like to see the numbers, but I have a hard time believing they pick up many(any?) new fans by holding training camp at SJF. How many non-football fans would actually find training camp interesting. I’m a huge football fan and even I find most of it to be pretty boring. Agree with bold, I would think about 99% have been fans for a while. Maybe the 1-3 year old children in attendance were new lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: I’m sure the players are completely supportive of living in a college dorm rather than their giant houses 🙄 I’d like to see the numbers, but I have a hard time believing they pick up many(any?) new fans by holding training camp at SJF. How many non-football fans would actually find training camp interesting. I’m a huge football fan and even I find most of it to be pretty boring. Look, I’m only saying what I have heard about it in the past, and their stated reasoning behind doing so, I’m not taking sides here, it’s gentle banter about TC, it’s naught to get hung about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Agree with bold, I would think about 99% have been fans for a while. Maybe the 1-3 year old children in attendance were new lol Those children you deride are the future money spenders, and future Bills fans, us old farts are already starting to drop like fly’s, and in twenty or so years from now a lot of us will be gone, big picture thinking is what your not taking notice of, The Pegulas are not taking this for granted, they want their daughter to inherit a team that has a as growing fan base, they know the yous and me’s of the current fan base will be dead or near to it not that far into the future. Go Bills!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Those children you deride are the future money spenders, and future Bills fans, us old farts are already starting to drop like fly’s, and in twenty or so years from now a lot of us will be gone, big picture thinking is what your not taking notice of, The Pegulas are not taking this for granted, they want their daughter to inherit a team that has a as growing fan base, they know the yous and me’s of the current fan base will be dead or near to it not that far into the future. Go Bills!!! What on Earth made you believe I "derided" the children?? Simply said these new fans you speak of at SJF likely were the only "new" Bills fans there. Anyways it's all good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: What on Earth made you believe I "derided" the children?? Simply said these new fans you speak of at SJF likely were the only "new" Bills fans there. Anyways it's all good Okay, it was a bit over the top on my behalf, I owe you a beer 🍺, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They would move everything there for just a two week stay? It’s great for fans. Did the go to Fisher year we went to Houston playoff game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Riverboat Ritchie said: It’s great for fans. Did the go to Fisher year we went to Houston playoff game? Yes they did. I went that year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Utah John said: If they want to go anywhere, they should go back to Fredonia. The great teams of the 80s and 90s used those Fredonia training camps to bond, with the players going out in groups to the bars. No such situation is possible near SJF. I can't believe the Bills would sell fewer tickets to people in NW NY -- Rochester etc -- if training camp wasn't held nearby. Agree the road back to the Super Bowl is through FREDONIA! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 9 hours ago, DJB said: Wait does this mean the Patriots are getting more comp picks now? (Ok even i think thats enough of that joke lol) No, it's not. Used judiciously, it has that certain je ne sais quoi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Pegulas might even be willing to donate to rename the SJF stadium. I heard some idiot put up a sheet of plywood, hand painted with 'Russ Brandon Field, extension 207'. * 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 11 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Just keeping their fingers in the fan base pie, smart business move, wether anyone likes it or not. Go Bills!!! Yep, Roch is where most of the PSL - paying fan base will be found for the new $billion stadium, not so much buffalo. team needs to think long term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Yep, Roch is where most of the PSL - paying fan base will be found for the new $billion stadium, not so much buffalo. team needs to think long term The stadium should be built in Batavia then. Close enough to Buffalo and Rochester. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 13 hours ago, Utah John said: If they want to go anywhere, they should go back to Fredonia. The great teams of the 80s and 90s used those Fredonia training camps to bond, with the players going out in groups to the bars. No such situation is possible near SJF. I can't believe the Bills would sell fewer tickets to people in NW NY -- Rochester etc -- if training camp wasn't held nearby. you don't think this team is bonded? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, nucci said: you don't think this team is bonded? They need to stay tight together. There will be situations coming up where players that have been Bills during the past four years return to excellence, are going to be traded or cut, and new players will be arriving. That's a challenge for the team's cohesiveness. It's important that the bonding process include the new guys so there isn't an old vs new mentality taking place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: The stadium should be built in Batavia then. Close enough to Buffalo and Rochester. Foolish idea. You're missing out on the Olean crowd. Put it in Letchworth. * 😁 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galept Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 13 hours ago, Utah John said: If they want to go anywhere, they should go back to Fredonia. The great teams of the 80s and 90s used those Fredonia training camps to bond, with the players going out in groups to the bars. No such situation is possible near SJF. I can't believe the Bills would sell fewer tickets to people in NW NY -- Rochester etc -- if training camp wasn't held nearby. As someone who attended some of those camps in the 90s, whose family is from Fredonia, whose grandfather taught there, I would love this just out of personal bias. I just know it's not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 After the $100M training facility investment we’ve been the least injured team in the league. I want our guys at the training facility. Don’t fix what’s not broken. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) I’m not sure the contractual agreement with SJF ever satisfactorily completed. One year remained prior to the pandemic a couple years back. Additionally, as an old school guy, I’m good with teams going away for training camp as a way to truly bond the team for the journey ahead. But one big drawback now is how evidenced our great training and health facilities are in OP. Edited February 25, 2022 by Chandler#81 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They would move everything there for just a two week stay? They've been doing it for decades. Why not? It's a big hit with the fans. 15 hours ago, Utah John said: If they want to go anywhere, they should go back to Fredonia. The great teams of the 80s and 90s used those Fredonia training camps to bond, with the players going out in groups to the bars. No such situation is possible near SJF. I can't believe the Bills would sell fewer tickets to people in NW NY -- Rochester etc -- if training camp wasn't held nearby. Plenty of bars for players to go to nearby. What are you talking about? 11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: More good news for ra-cha-cha Meh....they tried to export an Anchor Bar to the best location (for pub crawling) in Rochester and it died a bad death. Edited February 25, 2022 by Mr. WEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 I find it interesting that some fans have a strong opinion about where they hold training camp... Unless you are from the area and plan on going out to see the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, MJS said: I find it interesting that some fans have a strong opinion about where they hold training camp... Unless you are from the area and plan on going out to see the team. I'm from Rochester and grew up literally right next to Pittsford Mendon HS (I can walk to catch the bus to get to TC at SJF). I love going whenever I can. Last year we went to Buffalo to catch it. I liked it as it was a different experience. I'd be fine with it in either location but just like it better at SJF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 14 hours ago, BuffBillsForLife said: Can we just...not? Not complain? No. That is what off season is for. Thank you for asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 4 hours ago, nucci said: you don't think this team is bonded? It is, but just not approved for interstate commerce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Hope so, I live a couple miles from Fisher 18 hours ago, Utah John said: If they want to go anywhere, they should go back to Fredonia. The great teams of the 80s and 90s used those Fredonia training camps to bond, with the players going out in groups to the bars. No such situation is possible near SJF. I can't believe the Bills would sell fewer tickets to people in NW NY -- Rochester etc -- if training camp wasn't held nearby. I dont think Bills want players spending time in bars 18 hours ago, Utah John said: If they want to go anywhere, they should go back to Fredonia. The great teams of the 80s and 90s used those Fredonia training camps to bond, with the players going out in groups to the bars. No such situation is possible near SJF. I can't believe the Bills would sell fewer tickets to people in NW NY -- Rochester etc -- if training camp wasn't held nearby. I dont think Bills want players spending time in bars. Fisher was originally a Brandon marketing idea to reach fans outside of Buffalo. You can't assume Fredonia can accommodate training camp or even wants to. And it's only a couple weeks so the plauers don't get too homesick 18 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said: I thought McDermott preferred using their facilities in Orchard Park over St. John Fisher. Looks like the marketing guys won the argument over the football guys. Oh well, I did always enjoy taking the Fam to the training camps at St. John Fisher. Its a compromise at just 2 weeks. No harm in being away from OP for 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 18 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Serious question because I've never attended TC, but regarding the fan base comment....Would they not have their "fingers in the fan base pie" staying put for TC? I mean I'm not sure exactly what you mean, are fans not able to attend TC in OP when it's open to public or is it just a better experience for fans at SJF? I dont think there was much public access during pandemic but that could change,this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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