Would McD consider bringing in Gus Bradley to be the new DC??

[BuffaloBills1998]

With rumors around Frazier getting a second interview, if the giants hire Frazier would you be interested in Gus Bradley being our new DC?  He did a pretty solid job with the raiders. Also it’s rumored that McDaniels is the favorite of getting the raiders job

[MWK]

Frazier ain't getting the Giants job. We aren't going to be that lucky. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Does Bradely run a 4-3 Tampa 2? Or whatever you want to call McD's Jauron-esque defense?

 

 

[HoofHearted]

15 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Does Bradely run a 4-3 Tampa 2? Or whatever you want to call McD's Jauron-esque defense?

 

 

Yes

[ProcessTruster]

14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Does Bradely run a 4-3 Tampa 2? Or whatever you want to call McD's Jauron-esque defense?

 

 

he's moved off the Cover-3 stuff somewhat, but yeah, he still is not an attacking type style from what I can tell.  McD would approve. 

[BuffaloBills1998]

14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Does Bradely run a 4-3 Tampa 2? Or whatever you want to call McD's Jauron-esque defense?

 

 

Bradley runs a 4-3 under defense. A hell of a lot more aggressive than what Frazier runs

[Sweats]

After the Frazier Fiasco, nobody will touch the guy.......we're stuck with him.

 

Oi Vay

[BuffaloBills1998]

Just now, ProcessTruster said:

he's moved off the Cover-3 stuff somewhat, but yeah, he still is not an attacking type style from what I can tell.  McD would approve. 

I’d say the raiders defense this year was pretty attacking. That defense is pretty much the main reason why they got into the playoffs

Just now, Sweats said:

After the Frazier Fiasco, nobody will touch the guy.......we're stuck with him.

 

Oi Vay

Not necessarily, either Beane or Pegula could force McD’s hand in letting him go. They have to know defensively we’re not good enough and we need more of an attack attitude. 

[TBBills]

I want a DC that never uses prevent defense.

[ArtVandalay]

3 minutes ago, TBBills said:

I want a DC that never uses prevent defense.

That's the head coach's call at the end of the game there,  he called a TO and pulled them together too. That's McDermott.

 

But yes,  I agree, dump him. 

Edited January 28, 2022 by ArtVandalay

[Billzgobowlin]

25 minutes ago, MWK said:

Frazier ain't getting the Giants job. We aren't going to be that lucky. 

Frazier is an excellent DC.  I'm not a fan of running him out of town.  Remember the Rex Ryan defensive days where we prayed for someone that could keep teams from scoring?  I do

[Niagara Dude]

28 minutes ago, MWK said:

Frazier ain't getting the Giants job. We aren't going to be that lucky. 

LMAO! i agree 

[DrDawkinstein]

14 minutes ago, HoofHearted said:

Yes

 

14 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

he's moved off the Cover-3 stuff somewhat, but yeah, he still is not an attacking type style from what I can tell.  McD would approve. 

 

13 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Bradley runs a 4-3 under defense. A hell of a lot more aggressive than what Frazier runs

 

Great info, thanks!

 

In that case, yes, I can see McD bringing him in. And better yet that he might be a bit more aggressive.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

12 minutes ago, TBBills said:

I want a DC that never uses prevent defense.

Todd Bowles called 0 coverage with like 30 seconds left allowing Cooper Kupp 1v1 deep against a safety. 

 

There aren't any defensive coordinator better than Bowles, he's one of the best. 

 

I actually don't mind playing soft in that situation it's that they played too soft. I'm still convinced players didn't do their job, but that's still on coaching in that situation.

[LABILLBACKER]

59 minutes ago, MWK said:

Frazier ain't getting the Giants job. We aren't going to be that lucky. 

After giving up 42 points he's probably not getting any job.  I like the enthusiasm that Bradley brings and his 4-3 concepts. It would be better than watching Leslie stare aimlessly into space like in a coma.

Edited January 28, 2022 by LABILLBACKER

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

After giving up 42 points he's probably not getting any job.

 

I don't remember frazier out there missing 20 tackles.  

26 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Todd Bowles called 0 coverage with like 30 seconds left allowing Cooper Kupp 1v1 deep against a safety. 

 

There aren't any defensive coordinator better than Bowles, he's one of the best. 

 

I actually don't mind playing soft in that situation it's that they played too soft. I'm still convinced players didn't do their job, but that's still on coaching in that situation.

 

I think the thought process was also - spread them out along the field and prepare for a possible... hook and ladder or fumblerooski style play.  Just too far off and too far wide.  To leave the seam exposed like that is criminal.

[Saint Doug]

2 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

I don't remember frazier out there missing 20 tackles.  

I’m not a Frazier fan, as I think whatever we run is still McD’s even though he says otherwise, but you are right about the poor tackling. We forgot how to tackle in our last game and it lost us the game. 

[Niagara Dude]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

With rumors around Frazier getting a second interview, if the giants hire Frazier would you be interested in Gus Bradley being our new DC?  He did a pretty solid job with the raiders. Also it’s rumored that McDaniels is the favorite of getting the raiders job

That sounds more like a sideways move,  if they replace Frazier it needs to be someone much better

[Utah John]

Frazier's defense won a lot more games for the Bills than it lost for the Bills.  It was extremely effective against most teams.  That #1 ranking is not the nothing many people are implying.  

 

The problem in the second Chiefs game was that Frazier tried to use the same tactics he used in the first Chiefs game.  Reid and Mahomes knew what to expect and schemed up route trees that attacked it effectively.  THAT was Frazier's mistake, as I see it.  He had his system in place and he was going to ride that horse all the way to the end.  Reid is too smart and creative for Frazier to get away with that.

 

Considering how lousy the Bills D has been in countless years, I'm not hoping for a big change.  If Frazier returns, I think he'll learn a lesson from the loss.  Also our JV pass rushers will graduate to the varsity, just like Oliver finally has done, and that's going to make any DC look a lot better.  

[Buffalo_Stampede]

40 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

I don't remember frazier out there missing 20 tackles.  

 

I think the thought process was also - spread them out along the field and prepare for a possible... hook and ladder or fumblerooski style play.  Just too far off and too far wide.  To leave the seam exposed like that is criminal.

They over coached the final 2 defensive plays in regulation. Simple as that. There was no need for it, especially on the 1st play from the 25. Just play your defense. They're not going to try a deep pass play there and use up nearly all their time. They just over coached the situation. Players also probably screwed up because it was something they weren't use to doing.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I’d say the raiders defense this year was pretty attacking. That defense is pretty much the main reason why they got into the playoffs

 

Really? Based on what would you say this? Based on their league lowest blitz percentage of 12.1%? Or based on the 7th highest percentage of zone coverage in the NFL? Maybe it was them being 21st in sacks?

 

In every one of the supposed areas of criticism for the Bills defense the Raiders were a bigger culprit. Didn't blitz enough? The Raiders blitzed less than anyone. Played too much zone? The Raiders played more. Not enough sacks? The Raiders had fewer. 

 

That said Gus Bradley runs a very similar scheme to McDermott. If they were bringing in an outsider then I could absolutely see him as a fit. They are both cover 3 schemes at heart. The Bills were more multiple this year than the Raiders in terms of mixing in cover 1, cover 2 and quarters. The Raiders ran a bit more base cover 3. But compared to a lot of the suggestions that don't philosophically line up Gus Bradley does. 

[bigK14094]

1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Frazier is an excellent DC.  I'm not a fan of running him out of town.  Remember the Rex Ryan defensive days where we prayed for someone that could keep teams from scoring?  I do

i REMEMBER PRAYING THE BILLS WOULD HAVE 11 MEN on the field

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Todd Bowles called 0 coverage with like 30 seconds left allowing Cooper Kupp 1v1 deep against a safety. 

 

There aren't any defensive coordinator better than Bowles, he's one of the best. 

 

I actually don't mind playing soft in that situation it's that they played too soft. I'm still convinced players didn't do their job, but that's still on coaching in that situation.

 

Yep. Fans always want more aggressive. It is the rallying cry of most fans. Personally I think aggressive heavy blitzing defenses are mainly outdated relics of a bygone age.

 

Bowles is the one guy left doing it and generally getting results. And it cost his team just as big as Frazier playing soft off coverage zone did last weekend.

[Sierra Foothills]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

With rumors around Frazier getting a second interview, if the giants hire Frazier would you be interested in Gus Bradley being our new DC?  He did a pretty solid job with the raiders. Also it’s rumored that McDaniels is the favorite of getting the raiders job

 

I think a more likely question would be, "Is there a chance the Bills replace Frazier assuming that he's not offered a head coaching position?"

 

1 hour ago, Sweats said:

After the Frazier Fiasco, nobody will touch the guy.......we're stuck with him.

 

Oi Vay

 

He definitely did not help his career trajectory in those 13 seconds plus overtime.

 

1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Frazier is an excellent DC.  I'm not a fan of running him out of town.  Remember the Rex Ryan defensive days where we prayed for someone that could keep teams from scoring?  I do

 

Here's a question: "Is it possible to have a DC who is less effective statistically during the regular season but whose defense plays better in must-win playoff situations?"

 

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Todd Bowles called 0 coverage with like 30 seconds left allowing Cooper Kupp 1v1 deep against a safety. 

 

There aren't any defensive coordinator better than Bowles, he's one of the best. 

 

I actually don't mind playing soft in that situation it's that they played too soft. I'm still convinced players didn't do their job, but that's still on coaching in that situation.

 

All of us will tend to overreact in either/both directions after what happened in KC. That said IMO, much of the blame has to be placed on McDermott's shoulders... both because of the "ultimate responsibility rule" and also because he took 2 defensive timeouts which hurt us.

 

McDermott probably calls more defensive timeouts in critical situations than any other NFL head coach and that's generally a good thing but as we all found out from the autopsy, the timeouts allowed Kelce and Company to mastermind a few playground ball plays which forced overtime... in other words the time outs don't always work in the defense's favor and certainly didn't last Sunday.

 

If your players are dependable, knowledgeable, well-trained veterans then sometimes micro-managing is a bad idea.

Edited January 28, 2022 by Sierra Foothills

[Buffalo_Stampede]

15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yep. Fans always want more aggressive. It is the rallying cry of most fans. Personally I think aggressive heavy blitzing defenses are mainly outdated relics of a bygone age.

 

Bowles is the one guy left doing it and generally getting results. And it cost his team just as big as Frazier playing soft off coverage zone did last weekend.

It was kind of similar as Kupp wasn't even supposed to get the ball on that play but Stafford and Kupp both read the cover 0 and won the game.

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Frazier is an excellent DC.  I'm not a fan of running him out of town.  Remember the Rex Ryan defensive days where we prayed for someone that could keep teams from scoring?  I do

I had forgotten but for some reason people keep bringing up the bad times.

[TBBills]

1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Frazier is an excellent DC.  I'm not a fan of running him out of town.  Remember the Rex Ryan defensive days where we prayed for someone that could keep teams from scoring?  I do

No thanks he is over the hill on playcalling for DC. This is 2022 now and we need to evolve.

[Special K]

DL coach Eric Washington, a former DC in Carolina, will likely be promoted if Frazier leaves.

[Mat68]

 No Cover 3 defense.  I do not want any Seattle cover 3 defense.  I expect Mcdermott to keep his defense and find someone to call his defense. 

[LABILLBACKER]

5 hours ago, TBBills said:

I want a DC that never uses prevent defense.

We desperately need a change at DC.  Even if no one is dumb enough to hire Leslie. His defense has given up 80 points to KC over these last 2 playoff games. His scheme involves practicality no blitzing. Our pass rushers are old. Edmundane is not cutting it. We need someone like Bradley who would still run a 4-3 but a more aggressive version.  Frazier was a horrible HC and frankly a mediocre DC.

[cDAVIS]

6 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Does Bradely run a 4-3 Tampa 2? Or whatever you want to call McD's Jauron-esque defense?

 

 

That defense has been top 3 most of his tenure here. What are we complaining about here?

[uticaclub]

Fraizer isnt getting a job after 13 seconds

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

Gus Bradley is a hell of a DC imo but I think Frazier will stay. I don't know too many DC who doesn't have some sort of prevent defense concepts. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Something to think about - I don't know that they were in this situation basically all year.  They were either behiind in the 4th quarter or up multiple scores.