dorquemada Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: We probably still trade for Diggs. One year with 2019 Josh Allen with John Brown and Beasley getting most of the targets doesn’t relieve this team of a need for a #1 receiver. Beane probably still makes the opportunistic move for Diggs. It’s possible we don’t draft Davis, but it’s more likely we simply don’t sign sanders. No, we probably don't. Get real. If we had spent our top draft pick on a receiver, you think we would turn around and spend our next #1 also on a receiver? Do you think we'll trade our next year's number 1 for a DE? I sure am glad you're not GM'ing the Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: I said after his rookie season that he looked like a bust and he in fact is a bust 2nd rounder. Not a great sign when you are having to rotate players at one position which started in his rookie year. Not surprised to see him gone after the season because you only get so many opportunities and Bills have given that. The Bills made up for that terrible pick by taking Brown in the 3rd round and he looks like a keeper Let's just be glad he fell to the 2nd, remember many analyst called Cody Ford a steal in the second and said it was the bills best pick in the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said: Let's just be glad he fell to the 2nd, remember many analyst called Cody Ford a steal in the second and said it was the bills best pick in the draft. I would love to know who we would have taken if Ford was drafted ahead of us. Crazy how high the Bills were on this guy and how poor he has been. We've absolutely crushed the drafts recently and Ford stands out as a big miss, gotta put the blame on Ford because we've been good at developing nearly everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, dorquemada said: No, we probably don't. Get real. If we had spent our top draft pick on a receiver, you think we would turn around and spend our next #1 also on a receiver? Do you think we'll trade our next year's number 1 for a DE? I sure am glad you're not GM'ing the Bills Yes we probably do. You get real. Ford was a 2nd rounder. edit: and there are plenty of examples of teams spending multiple high draft picks on receivers for their young QB to throw to. Cincinnati used a high 2nd on Higgins then drafted Chase while already having Boyd. That’s just one recent example. Edited October 4, 2021 by Rock-A-Bye Beasley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: I mean I like where the team is at now, I'm not going to play with "what if", who knows what the team would be like given that decision. 'What if" is my middle name! * * No it's not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Yes we probably do. You get real. Ford was a 2nd rounder. edit: and there are plenty of examples of teams spending multiple high draft picks on receivers for their young QB to throw to. Cincinnati used a high 2nd on Higgins then drafted Chase while already having Boyd. That’s just one recent example. On a team that needed OL help, in teh 2nd round the Bills would skip over a guy that most pundits had as a 1st round pick. A universally praised pick, by the way. You're using hindsight in a way that ends up with THE BILLS SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED TOM BRADY INSTEAD OF LEIF LARSON. While true it's about valuable as saying you should have picked the correct numbers for the powerball last night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 6 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Yet McD felt the need to tell everyone he’s a good football player after the game… Well, at least he didn't say great. I actually liked the pick at the time. Win some... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dopey said: Well, at least he didn't say great. I actually liked the pick at the time. Win some... Rarely will I fault OBD for trying to load up on the lines 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, dorquemada said: On a team that needed OL help, in teh 2nd round the Bills would skip over a guy that most pundits had as a 1st round pick. A universally praised pick, by the way. You're using hindsight in a way that ends up with THE BILLS SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED TOM BRADY INSTEAD OF LEIF LARSON. While true it's about valuable as saying you should have picked the correct numbers for the powerball last night it’s not hindsight. I wanted DK and so did a lot of Bills fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: it’s not hindsight. I wanted DK and so did a lot of Bills fans. yeah you wanted DK and you're ~pretty sure~ that the Bills still trade for Diggs. we get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I hate to break this to you sparky but Williams had several missed assignments at OG as well. The positive was Spencer Brown looks like a player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 7 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Yet McD felt the need to tell everyone he’s a good football player after the game… Why question the coach's methods after a 40 - 0 win. As a leader you have to keep the backup players happy and motivated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 3 hours ago, london_bills said: Why question the coach's methods after a 40 - 0 win. As a leader you have to keep the backup players happy and motivated It sounds like you haven’t met ScottLaw before. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Guys are busts until they aren't. Last year, it was Oliver, Edmunds and Epenesa, at various times. Now, those guys are all key players on a stellar D. Some guys just need more time. Not saying Ford will necessarily pan out, but he's still pretty young. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 IMO opinion they will keep Ford for depth the rest of the season then trade him in the offseason for whatever they can get for him. Ford is valuable until they can upgrade the guard spot next year and they'll still have Boettger, Feliciano, and Williams next year for Guard while looking for an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 16 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: ... or not. You really don't know. You're pretending the facts show that what you want will happen. They don't. They only show what happened. After that, as usual, we'll see. Certainly did look like either a wake-up call or a replacement, whether temporary or permanent. Again, we'll see. Valid. All our media were flapping and fluttering when Harrison Phillips was a healthy scratch against KC and the Jets (trade predicted), then even more so when he played in NE then sat for 2 weeks. But his snaps steadily increased after that point. McDermott indicated post-season that they felt Phillips wasn't where he needed to be coming back from injury and he needed more time to "get right" It's possible they're done with Ford. Something like 1 in 2 to 1 in 3 draft picks work out, even in the high rounds. It's also possible that, coming back from off season surgery, they feel he isn't where he needs to be and needs more work to "get right". We don't know, and McDermott sure ain't gonna tell us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Lol we are like 3 years removed from starting Vlad Ducasse, Ryan Groy and John Miller. Isn’t that crazy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 21 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Do we have to keep lamenting who we didnt pick? I read this message board, what is wrong with Beasley, what is wrong with Rousseau, Ford is a bust. You would think the Bills lost by 40. People on this board wouldn't cash a 1 million dollar check because of the crease on it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 19 hours ago, Warcodered said: I mean I like where the team is at now, I'm not going to play with "what if", who knows what the team would be like given that decision. Precisely. well articulated. Anyone can use 2020 hindsight and lament a bad or non-optimal pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 After yesterday, it seems like out nightmare is still haunting us, but in real life. Can we cut this guy already? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: After yesterday, it seems like out nightmare is still haunting us, but in real life. Can we cut this guy already? I said he was bust after last season and people laughed at me, Beane never cut him because he does not want to admit he made massive mistake not taking either WR Brown or Metcalf who will be stars for years to come. Mistakes in drafts happen all the time, the sooner you move the better for you franchise. I remember reading draft reports that indicated he was not strong enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 1:40 AM, Real McNasty said: Man, passing on DK for Ford is looking worse and worse. I totally understood the pick but wanted DK more there before we had Diggs. Hope Ford can reinvent himself here ASAP. Yeah well....it looks like he re-invented himself for a job at the local pool... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I'll say, the title had me excited!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: I'll say, the title had me excited!! Same here, I thought they cut him outright. (which I would have been happy but shocked). I see him being on the team the rest of the year and then not being on the team next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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