AmishRifle Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) “When he was the Patriots quarterback, Brady used to call the Alabama quarterback room in 2017 to offer advice. Brian Daboll was Alabama’s offensive coordinator at the time, and he was installing the Patriots’ system after working with Brady in New England for two stints and 11 total seasons. Daboll orchestrated calls with Brady to provide tips with the offense. Though Brady spent more time on the phone with starter Jalen Hurts, Daboll wanted Jones and Tua Tagovailoa in on the conversations as well. Daboll also set up Alabama’s tight ends with Rob Gronkowski for similar reasons.” https://theathletic.com/2859873/2021/09/30/back-at-alabama-mac-jones-and-tom-brady-had-some-under-the-radar-phone-calls/ Article was written as a setup for this weekend’s game between TB and Pats. Says a lot about Daboll’s connections and mastery of the EP offense. Edited October 2, 2021 by AmishRifle Added link 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Daboll going to be the Bears HC next year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Just now, TBBills said: Daboll going to be the Bears HC next year. Gonna bring back Trubisky for round 2? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, SWATeam said: Gonna bring back Trubisky for round 2? Justin Fields 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, TBBills said: Justin Fields This will expose Daboll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: This will expose Daboll yeah, I wouldn’t be jumping at that bears job with Fields as the QB. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: yeah, I wouldn’t be jumping at that bears job with Fields as the QB. I'd take Chicago with Fields over the Denver job and having to find a QB (or bringing Mitch with). I wasnt very high on Fields as far as the draft, but I dont think he'll be a career-killer. He desperately needs an OLine tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: This will expose Daboll As…? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I'd take Chicago with Fields over the Denver job and having to find a QB (or bringing Mitch with). I wasnt very high on Fields as far as the draft, but I dont think he'll be a career-killer. He desperately needs an OLine tho. That is fair. I was never high on Fields, but I agree it’s a bit unfair to assess him now. He definitely is much more raw than a lot of recent top 10 picks. it will be interesting to see where the openings are this off-season. I think definitely in Chicago. Vic Fagio in Denver may be safe the way he has that team Playing. Maybe Minnesota will fire Zimmer. And Texans could can Culley after a year. Other than that, I don’t think there will be any other openings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I'd take Chicago with Fields over the Denver job and having to find a QB (or bringing Mitch with). I wasnt very high on Fields as far as the draft, but I dont think he'll be a career-killer. He desperately needs an OLine tho. I'd take the Denver job and go get Aaron Rodgers! Although right now Fangio might be saved by Teddy Two Gloves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 minute ago, JGMcD2 said: I'd take the Denver job and go get Aaron Rodgers! Although right now Fangio might be saved by Teddy Two Gloves. Good point. If that deal can get done, then it is a no-brainer. BUT... who knows if it happens. And if it does, you also need to start planning for the future with another QB draft pick, and hopefully Rodgers is ok with that. Also, I think I'd rather go to the Bears in the NFC North if the Pack lose Rodgers. Than Denver (even with Rodgers) and having to deal with Mahomes and Herbert (and even the Raiders playing well). 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, eball said: As…? Your son 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Good point. If that deal can get done, then it is a no-brainer. BUT... who knows if it happens. And if it does, you also need to start planning for the future with another QB draft pick, and hopefully Rodgers is ok with that. Also, I think I'd rather go to the Bears in the NFC North if the Pack lose Rodgers. Than Denver (even with Rodgers) and having to deal with Mahomes and Herbert (and even the Raiders playing well). It's kind of early for all of this stuff, but two impending variables are that Rodgers negotiated so if he wants he can get out next year, a somewhat less quiet strategy than Brady (I credit him for keeping quiet for Kraft, but had enough in NE, say what you want, but that was classy of TB). Now, Rodger is so fickle maybe he starts getting a lot more input on weapons talent and decides to stay, or not. I honestly don't care, but it is a factor. The other is Watson's stuff starts to get worked on in February so another team will probably have a good idea what they are getting, any suspensions, etc. These two QB's will mitigate a lot with teams, and choices. I'd rather wait until February-April to see how things shake out and there will most likely be a lot more than two coaching vacancies by black Monday. For now, it's enjoy the Bills ride we hope and pray to victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 6 hours ago, TBBills said: Daboll going to be the Bears HC next year. At the rate the Bears are going, who's going to be the interim coach for the rest of 2021? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 It would be super advantageous for Daboll to bring Trubisky with him to a QB-less team, if he was to take a HC job. Trubisky knows his system and probably has a renewed confidence. This gives Daboll time to build his program and find his own franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Good point. If that deal can get done, then it is a no-brainer. BUT... who knows if it happens. And if it does, you also need to start planning for the future with another QB draft pick, and hopefully Rodgers is ok with that. Also, I think I'd rather go to the Bears in the NFC North if the Pack lose Rodgers. Than Denver (even with Rodgers) and having to deal with Mahomes and Herbert (and even the Raiders playing well). That’s a great point, you really can’t be a coach who builds for his own future with Rodgers in the room. If you were able to get Rodgers in Denver, you’d be coaching for a Lombardi, knowing you have no future. I don’t think Rodgers is remotely willing to see that side of coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Does a phone call really require "orchestration" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 5 hours ago, eball said: As…? Zelig standing next Josh Allen (and Nick Saba and Bill Bellichick).. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: This will expose Daboll Based off what? Fields started what 1 game? 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Based off what? Fields started what 1 game? 2? keep watching this kid was drafted 1st round because of one 6 TD playoff game. Endless stream of OSU QB duds in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Allen2Diggs said: Does a phone call really require "orchestration" ? Too funny. While the rest of us average humans have to get by with just scheduling time to talk with folks we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: This will expose Daboll Very likely, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 12 hours ago, TBBills said: Daboll going to be the Bears HC next year. From your keyboard to god's ears please let this happen, Daboll is fairly over rated and has not had the impact on Josh that some think he has. For sure, he is not in the top 3 impacts on Josh, likely not in the top 5, objectively not in the top 7 and arguably barely in the top 10. Daboll is an amazing play creator just not a great play caller. Big difference. The scary thing is pondering how great this offense could be with Josh at the helm and a top tier play caller and coordinator. Sure, Daboll called a good game last week but that was the first one all year. He needs to do that for 17 regular season games and multiple playoff games a year, not every few weeks which is what he has been doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 13 hours ago, TBBills said: Daboll going to be the Bears HC next year. Matt Nagy's seat is getting hotter by the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 9 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: At the rate the Bears are going, who's going to be the interim coach for the rest of 2021? Marc Testerman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 4 hours ago, IndyMark said: From your keyboard to god's ears please let this happen, Daboll is fairly over rated and has not had the impact on Josh that some think he has. For sure, he is not in the top 3 impacts on Josh, likely not in the top 5, objectively not in the top 7 and arguably barely in the top 10. Daboll is an amazing play creator just not a great play caller. Big difference. The scary thing is pondering how great this offense could be with Josh at the helm and a top tier play caller and coordinator. Sure, Daboll called a good game last week but that was the first one all year. He needs to do that for 17 regular season games and multiple playoff games a year, not every few weeks which is what he has been doing. Be careful what you wish for. Yes, I agree Daboll, at times, seems to lose the rhythm of the team with his play calling. But his offense if very well designed. He obviously has a great working relationship with Josh and McDermott. And the Bills offense has been on absolute fire the past two years. So if he goes, who replaces him? What are the chances they will be BETTER than Daboll? No OC is perfect. We;ve seen plenty right in Buffalo that seem great, but just have a major flaw or two when it comes to play calling. As I hope we both can agree Daboll is in the top third of offensive coordinators (I think he's much higher than that, but for this discussion lets just give him that). If he goes, what are the chances the new OC is not only a better play caller, but also see's eye to eye on the scheme with the QB and HC (yes, this IS important) designs a better offense and has the kind of success Daboll has had with this offense? IF he gets a HC job it will be because the GMs recognize his excellence. Not because he fooled them by riding Josh's excellence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 5 hours ago, The Dean said: Be careful what you wish for. Yes, I agree Daboll, at times, seems to lose the rhythm of the team with his play calling. But his offense if very well designed. He obviously has a great working relationship with Josh and McDermott. And the Bills offense has been on absolute fire the past two years. So if he goes, who replaces him? What are the chances they will be BETTER than Daboll? No OC is perfect. We;ve seen plenty right in Buffalo that seem great, but just have a major flaw or two when it comes to play calling. As I hope we both can agree Daboll is in the top third of offensive coordinators (I think he's much higher than that, but for this discussion lets just give him that). If he goes, what are the chances the new OC is not only a better play caller, but also see's eye to eye on the scheme with the QB and HC (yes, this IS important) designs a better offense and has the kind of success Daboll has had with this offense? IF he gets a HC job it will be because the GMs recognize his excellence. Not because he fooled them by riding Josh's excellence. Thanks for the counter view; your perspective is appreciated. I do respectfully disagree, still. I feel the whole culture of the Bills is about the growth mindset and continued improvement. If we remain in the mindset of "who will replace him?", we will never improve. In that case, we should be content with our OL, particularly interior OL, because we have had success. I would suggest, if the Bills want to be the best version of themselves they evaluate assistant coaches in the same vein of the players. Sure, Daboll has grown over the years (stopped yelling at a rookie QB), but that may be due to him being assigned to the coaches box and removed from the field more than anything. I will say, if he calls games like he did last week, this resolves itself as he will have seemed to respond to the challenge of the HC to be better. Yet, if we see the playcalling from the first few weeks, and from the ending of last season, then it is fair game to look elsewhere. I am not smart enough to prognosticate on who will replace him, also because that is above my pay grade, but I would not be concerned at all to see Daboll move on from the Bills. Whether or not he is an excellent candidate to be a HC is not for me to state, what I can state that as of now he is replaceable, easily replaceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 10 hours ago, IndyMark said: Thanks for the counter view; your perspective is appreciated. I do respectfully disagree, still. I feel the whole culture of the Bills is about the growth mindset and continued improvement. If we remain in the mindset of "who will replace him?", we will never improve. In that case, we should be content with our OL, particularly interior OL, because we have had success. I would suggest, if the Bills want to be the best version of themselves they evaluate assistant coaches in the same vein of the players. Sure, Daboll has grown over the years (stopped yelling at a rookie QB), but that may be due to him being assigned to the coaches box and removed from the field more than anything. I will say, if he calls games like he did last week, this resolves itself as he will have seemed to respond to the challenge of the HC to be better. Yet, if we see the playcalling from the first few weeks, and from the ending of last season, then it is fair game to look elsewhere. I am not smart enough to prognosticate on who will replace him, also because that is above my pay grade, but I would not be concerned at all to see Daboll move on from the Bills. Whether or not he is an excellent candidate to be a HC is not for me to state, what I can state that as of now he is replaceable, easily replaceable. Of course the Bills will look to replace an OL with someone better, but NOT UNTIL they find someone who will be better,. They just don't throw out guys without having a better guy to put in. So my question to you, since you seem to think Daboll is "easily replaceable" (which might be one of the most absurd comments I've heard this year) is WHO? Since it is so easy, WHO should replace him. Right now, who is doing a better job at calling plays and designing an offense AND would come to the Bills with no path to being the HC? If you can't name five guys, then he is NOT easily replaceable, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/2/2021 at 5:07 PM, Mr. WEO said: keep watching this kid was drafted 1st round because of one 6 TD playoff game. Endless stream of OSU QB duds in the NFL. Final answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Final answer? so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/2/2021 at 10:43 AM, DrDawkinstein said: I'd take Chicago with Fields over the Denver job and having to find a QB (or bringing Mitch with). I wasnt very high on Fields as far as the draft, but I dont think he'll be a career-killer. He desperately needs an OLine tho. Rodgers? That feels like a done deal to me. Plenty of time to change but i just dont see it NOT happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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