727Bills Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 IBTL 😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 100% the reason why I got vaccinated back in April when this first came up. Go get your shot. And no I’m not going to debate you on it 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Good. The policy before this was absolutely useless. This should have been what they did from the beginning. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Jpsredemption said: Per the County Executive changes coming. Announcement scheduled for 2PM.... Anyone think capacity adjustments? Wonder if they will have shots available on-site for anyone who wants to enter? I'm actually kind of iffy on that notion because I've heard of a couple folks who had a rough road with the vaccine when they took it the morning after a King-Size drinking binge, but it would beat getting to the gate and not getting in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, aristocrat said: like in new orleans who have a vaccine mandate? just wait. they will all be coming so we can get on track to ending this thing. How so? It’s never going to end. Vaccinated still spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Unsurprising, really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: 100% the reason why I got vaccinated back in April when this first came up. Go get your shot. And no I’m not going to debate you on it Yeah I got my second on 4/23 and have proof on my phone. Then 2-3 months later I got an update. Added an expiration of 10/12. That happen to anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Maybe I will use my tickets this year instead of selling them off like I was planning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, billsfanmiamioh said: How so? It’s never going to end. Vaccinated still spread. but it reduces the illness, hospitalizations and death 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, TBBills said: Didn't expect humans to act like humans... Ok What part of "humans acting like humans" is involved in actively harassing people who are complying with a stated policy? If you don't like the policy, go B word at the people who enacted it, Fair, that's how Democracy should work. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Surprised they dropped the mask mandate along with this. Honestly not a terrible compromise. My guess is Erie County gave the Pegula’s an opportunity to manage attendance and use the Hopener as a litmus test. The Pegula’s failed. Vaccinated only now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Mango said: My guess is Erie County gave the Pegula’s an opportunity to manage attendance and use the Hopener as a litmus test. The Pegula’s failed. Vaccinated only now. How did the Pegula's fail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 With the new County and State Regs that keep coming out regarding back to work and vaccines. I’m curious how this effects guys like Beasley, Davis etc. going forward. Like my office re shut down to go over new regs to address policy. If I cannot go to the stadium without a vaccine (I can) why can Beasley, Davis, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, billsfanmiamioh said: How so? It’s never going to end. Vaccinated still spread. NFL data from preseason: 7x fewer vaccinated than unvaccinated positive tests in players/staff, no intra-facility spread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Mike in Horseheads said: How did the Pegula's fail? Maybe I am wrong but I assumed that the Pegula’s managed a good portion of the game day experience. As somebody who was at the game, there was zero enforcement of masks in the concourse at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: NFL data from preseason: 7x fewer vaccinated than unvaccinated positive tests in players/staff, no intra-facility spread. Well wouldn’t that stand to reason since the vaxed are getting tested one every two weeks or whatever and unvaxed a lot more often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Mango said: With the new County and State Regs that keep coming out regarding back to work and vaccines. I’m curious how this effects guys like Beasley, Davis etc. going forward. Like my office re shut down to go over new regs to address policy. If I cannot go to the stadium without a vaccine (I can) why can Beasley, Davis, etc. Workers must either be vaccinated OR test weekly The daily tests Beasley and etc get would cover that last. My guess is that when the dust settles, stadium attendence will be "either vaccinated or (-) covid test within 48 hrs, which seems like a reasonable accommodation to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEBranch Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: How did the Pegula's fail? With my first steps "inside" the stadium I saw over half of the food workers maskless, one usher with a mask, and a couple of 50/50 raffle guys maskless...when your own personnel can't follow the rules, it's going to be a tough sell. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Mango said: Maybe I am wrong but I assumed that the Pegula’s managed a good portion of the game day experience. As somebody who was at the game, there was zero enforcement of masks in the concourse at all. I assumed that Erie County provides the security but not sure. Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said: Yeah I got my second on 4/23 and have proof on my phone. Then 2-3 months later I got an update. Added an expiration of 10/12. That happen to anyone else? Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Are the Bills (and Sabres) the only teams/venues in NA Pro sports with this policy at this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, May Day 10 said: Are the Bills (and Sabres) the only teams/venues in NA Pro sports with this policy at this time? No. Seahawks, Saints, and Raiders have the same policy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, billsfanmiamioh said: Well wouldn’t that stand to reason since the vaxed are getting tested one every two weeks or whatever and unvaxed a lot more often? Good question and fair question. Vaccinated players and staff are still required to fill out an extensive symptom questionnaire every morning, report any symptoms, and get tested immediately if they have any symptoms. If they're exposed as a close contact they get tested for 5 days. New CDC data from LA and HCW studies ~25% of infections with Delta are asymptomatic (lower % than original strain) Using this to correcting the NFL data vaccinated players/staff 5.5x less likely to be infected (Which happens to be consistent with aforementioned CDC data ) If there were an injection that made an NFL player 5x less likely to injure ligaments in his knee and miss playing time, they'd be lining up out the door for it. Anyone who wants to debate this, PPP and many other venues online At Your Service. Thanks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: Are the Bills (and Sabres) the only teams/venues in NA Pro sports with this policy at this time? Nope they are not 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle and freddy Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Less fans , better Josh will play - genius move… see 2020 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kyle and freddy said: Less fans , better Josh will play - genius move… see 2020 And the truth is revealed..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 The Funny thing is this announcement will lead to alot of Noise But will ALSO lead to alot more vaccinations, that is the reality 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: No. Seahawks, Saints, and Raiders have the same policy. The Saints have a fully vaccinated policy in place? I know somebody in my group that was supposed to be going to that game who isn't going to like that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, BillsPride12 said: The Saints have a fully vaccinated policy in place? I know somebody in my group that was supposed to be going to that game who isn't going to like that lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, Jauronimo said: Thanks I'll pass that along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Anyone know if there is a federal “ digital vaccination proof” … No state app here in va, and I ain’t so good with physical ***** after about 10 am game day. Why I don’t being in keys and used to keep ticket in car till walk up to gate, at which point stayed in my hand in front pocket. hope every one else takes picture proof, cause can almost guarantee my card is long gone at 2pm on the 26th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: I wouldn't waste my breath on people that are still questioning the benefits of getting vaccinated. At this point they are simply choosing ignorance and for some reason are unashamed of it. I'm going to respond to this once and then any posts carrying this torch will vanish. @Chandler#81 quipped that "Hapless will be diagnosed with a heart condition this season, but it's a misdiagnosis, it's only broken". He's right. I live in MO and have relatives living in areas with very low % vaccination. I have spent literally weeks of my life at this point talking to relatives and friends who don't wish to be vaccinated (and a teeny DM with a couple Bills players actually). And when I say talking, I mean actually talking, not lecturing or admonishing. I watch what they send me to watch. I read what they send me to read. I tell them what I know about it, since this is part of "My Lane" and I can legitimately claim some expertise. I can say from that experience, that people who don't want to get vaccinated are neither idiots nor choosing ignorance. I believe they are mistaken, but misinformation about the vaccine is absolutely RAMPANT. A good bit of it is very carefully couched to look scientifically legit and wrapped in common argument fallacies. You have to really have some expertise in both science and in understanding argument strategies to unpack it. I'm responding to this because I feel the continuing holier-than-thou drumbeat of some vaccine supporters shaming unvaccinated folks, calling them "ignorant" and so forth is misguided. It's just as unhelpful as the opposite trend to shame/attack those who do get vaccinated in some communities. So please reconsider, and refrain. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 36 minutes ago, Mango said: With the new County and State Regs that keep coming out regarding back to work and vaccines. I’m curious how this effects guys like Beasley, Davis etc. going forward. Like my office re shut down to go over new regs to address policy. If I cannot go to the stadium without a vaccine (I can) why can Beasley, Davis, etc. So over half the police officers that were at the stadium weren't vacc either. Nor the people that come over the border every day in Texas. So I can also say 5 of the deaths on the ny website were not c19 related it was a gang shooting and the corner ruled c19. Bullets don't lie numbers can be manipulated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Anyone know if there is a federal “ digital vaccination proof” … No state app here in va, and I ain’t so good with physical ***** after about 10 am game day. Why I don’t being in keys and used to keep ticket in car till walk up to gate, at which point stayed in my hand in front pocket. hope every one else takes picture proof, cause can almost guarantee my card is long gone at 2pm on the 26th. @plenzmd1, not as far as I know. I hope there's a solution that doesn't involve carrying the physical card because I Share Your Pain on concern for losing it. My only possibly positive idea is to get a travel wallet -either a neck or a waist or belt wallet - that could hold the vaccine card. This kind of a thing: https://www.amazon.com/Freegrace-Waterproof-Pouch-Waist-Shoulder/dp/B07DH5G834/ref=sr_1_16?dchild=1&keywords=waterproof+neck+wallet&qid=1631646689&sr=8-16. If you find one that's comfy enough and fits under your shirt it's pretty loss-proof and you just have to remember to pull it out. The waterproof part is key though, Ask Me How I Know. They better hire extra workers to get people into the stadium, because if folks thought the lines were long before..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: Which one? Pfizer. Got it on 4/2 & 4/23. Lost my vac card & state had me download proof app. Then 2 months later added an expiration date of 10/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I assumed that Erie County provides the security but not sure. Thanks The bills hire their own security firm. In the past it was 2-CSC and Apex. Its a single company now and i can't remember the name. The county provides the sheriff's office Edited September 14, 2021 by loyal2dagame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Another thread about the actual changes, one thread should suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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