Kwai San Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 I voted yes....pretty much same answer as most...the extra game. I am in the hope that Allen continues to improve and the opposing DC guys don't figger it out. Lamar isn't a good example tho imho. I believe he was and still remains a one trick pony.....limit his runs for big yards and you have that team under control.....just my $0.02. Go BILLS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share Posted July 6, 2021 16 hours ago, Kwai San said: I voted yes....pretty much same answer as most...the extra game. I am in the hope that Allen continues to improve and the opposing DC guys don't figger it out. Lamar isn't a good example tho imho. I believe he was and still remains a one trick pony.....limit his runs for big yards and you have that team under control.....just my $0.02. Go BILLS!! Agree. Let’s hope JA continues to ascend. Even when defenses start to figure him out, hopefully he’ll still be able to rise above. I believe he can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 I think our defense shows up this year and we don't find ourselves having go score for score with teams like we did last year where we were getting in 4th quarter shoot outs. That means less points but less heart attack victories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Doubt it, even with the extra game. Yeah really. Maybe if they start Mitch Trubisky the entire season they might get within 50 points....maybe. Right? Edited July 7, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted July 7, 2021 Author Share Posted July 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Gene1973 said: Doubt it, even with the extra game. Neither answer is wrong. What has you thinking that though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 17 games. Two games each against the pats, Jests and Water Mammals should contribute big numbers to our total As Belichick has said before, " it's not our job to stop ourselves" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted July 7, 2021 Author Share Posted July 7, 2021 41 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Allen and the offense had a once in a decade type season in terms of stats. Thinking they will produce like that every season is unrealistic. I see what your saying and that could very well be the case since it was such a big season. The thing is though, we pretty much have the same offense with the same coaches coming back. We essentially have the same pieces in place with an easier schedule and an extra game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Gene1973 said: There are just so many variables, injuries and the other teams in the div getting better etc. Lamar Jackson may never have another season like his MVP season. Allen may never have another like last season... shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, teef said: shocking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Gene1973 said: There are just so many variables, injuries and the other teams in the div getting better etc. Lamar Jackson may never have another season like his MVP season. Allen may never have another like last season... You're right Gene. I don't think any of the greats had more than one great season. Not Brady, Manning, Marino, Elway, Kelly, Brees....they only had one great season in their careers. It's pretty unrealistic to ask a QB to have more than one great season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: every day he wakes up, his life becomes a bit more painful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/5/2021 at 1:01 AM, Doc Brown said: It'll be tough now that Lee Smith is gone. Don't worry, Duke Williams is going to pick up that slack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 37 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: You're right Gene. I don't think any of the greats had more than one great season. Not Brady, Manning, Marino, Elway, Kelly, Brees....they only had one great season in their careers. It's pretty unrealistic to ask a QB to have more than one great season. Isn't it mind blowing the amount of knowledge Gene has about everything, including the gift he's been blessed with being able to know details of future events so well that he's able to pinpoint even the smallest things. Be glad and consider it a joy that he is willing to share all this info with you.......🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 11:25 PM, BillsFan619 said: Please list your reasons for the answer you gave. Go Bills! Ignoring that crabby old man @Chandler#81, I will play along and say yes 500 points in the regular season is achievable. More balance on offense, better experience at WR, more flexibility on the OL. On 7/5/2021 at 10:21 AM, Mr. WEO said: Bunch of teams could be over 500 with 17. How can Nills not be one of them?? 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/5/2021 at 3:01 AM, Chandler#81 said: Yes, it is. It’s called ‘Bud Nipping’. When kids are out of school and know Moms iPad password, we get these type of infantile, mind-numbing speculation threads that dumb down the whole board, regardless of the season. Little Petey and JimmyJoe see this and thinks ‘that’s a good idea!’ 🤦♂️ Dude, you need to chill. I've been known to crap on weak threads from newer members, but you're holding the bar a bit too high on this one. Restricting thread creation to Pulitzer Prize winning sports reporters is for when there's actually ***** to talk about, not the dead of the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said: Ignoring that crabby old man @Chandler#81, I will play along and say yes 500 points in the regular season is achievable. More balance on offense, better experience at WR, more flexibility on the OL. 😀 Good thoughts. I do hope we can be more balanced by having a healthier running game. At least to control the clock a little more when needed as well as to keep defenses off balance so they have to think about more than just our passing attack. 9 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Classic, Royale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 11:25 PM, BillsFan619 said: Please list your reasons for the answer you gave. I believe we can. Another year in the system, same great offense, JA having a year more of experience and an easier schedule (at least on paper). Another game doesn’t hurt either. Go Bills! Easy yes. 17 Games. Better questions would be - will we average 30 ppg? or will we get 500 points in 16 games? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Easy yes. 17 Games. Better questions would be - will we average 30 ppg? or will we get 500 points in 16 games? Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Last year we averaged over 31 points a game. Do you believe we can beat that average? Or, will we be under that average? What are your reasons for the answer you give? Edited July 9, 2021 by BillsFan619 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) I truly believe this season will be the best season in franchise history. I think we win the super bowl. I just don’t see how anyone can stop Allen,Diggs, Sanders, Beas, Davis. Diggs, Sanders, and Beas are the best route runners in the league. I even think Breida can do damage on this team. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we absolutely steam roll teams this year with 30+ points. Not only is our offense loaded for bear, our defense is good enough to hold teams to very little points. It’s going to be special, so grab your popcorn and saddle up. Edited July 9, 2021 by IronMaidenBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 11 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: I truly believe this season will be the best season in franchise history. I think we win the super bowl. I just don’t see how anyone can stop Allen,Diggs, Sanders, Beas, Davis. Diggs, Sanders, and Beas are the best route runners in the league. I even think Breida can do damage on this team. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we absolutely steam roll teams this year with 30+ points. Not only is our offense loaded for bear, our defense is good enough to hold teams to very little points. It’s going to be special, so grab your popcorn and saddle up. Love it, Iron Maiden. Man, I hope so. Can’t wait for the season to start. Go Bills! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 8:48 PM, BillsFan619 said: Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Last year we averaged over 31 points a game. Do you believe we can beat that average? Or, will we be under that average? What are your reasons for the answer you give? I dont think they will. Many reasons: Stronger opposition (even the AFCE is stronger this year) Teams have figured out Daboll Offense a bit (see what happened in the playoffs) I still believe we will still get our share of wins since the defense is stronger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: I dont think they will. Many reasons: Stronger opposition (even the AFCE is stronger this year) Teams have figured out Daboll Offense a bit (see what happened in the playoffs) I still believe we will still get our share of wins since the defense is stronger They figured out how to stop Daboll offense... As in wait for Beasley and Diggs to get injured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 I mean, we should especially with a 17th game. We aren’t playing as many good defenses as we did last year….we lit them up pretty well except the Ravens. I’m hoping we add another 1.5 pts a game. We have the potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) If our D plays like last year, then we probably will. If our D plays much better, I could see a bit more focus on eating up the clock late in games. Either way, I don't see Daboll ratcheting the O down too much with our WR corps and Allen at QB. We also have 17 games this year, so I'll vote yes. Edited July 10, 2021 by GreggTX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 19 hours ago, TBBills said: They figured out how to stop Daboll offense... As in wait for Beasley and Diggs to get injured. There is truth to that as well. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted July 11, 2021 Author Share Posted July 11, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 9:35 AM, Royale with Cheese said: I mean, we should especially with a 17th game. We aren’t playing as many good defenses as we did last year….we lit them up pretty well except the Ravens. I’m hoping we add another 1.5 pts a game. We have the potential. Yeah unless they really regress, which I don’t expect them to, I don’t see why they won’t score more either. They actually have a lot easier schedule (on paper) than they did last year. I don’t expect the division to be much better either. The patriots will bring back many Covid opt outs on defense. That said, who knows how long it will take that many people to gel again. Don’t they have like eight people on defense coming back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted July 11, 2021 Author Share Posted July 11, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 2:42 PM, GreggTX said: If our D plays like last year, then we probably will. If our D plays much better, I could see a bit more focus on eating up the clock late in games. Either way, I don't see Daboll ratcheting the O down too much with our WR corps and Allen at QB. We also have 17 games this year, so I'll vote yes. Good thoughts. If it came down to a better more efficient defense, I’d gladly take less points. A better defense will be crucial to our Super Bowl run. Go Bills! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) On 7/10/2021 at 8:52 AM, TBBills said: They figured out how to stop Daboll offense... As in wait for Beasley and Diggs to get injured. TB, speaking of injuries, do you believe JA is at a level now where he would still do well if there was an injury or two at a star WR position? Edited July 12, 2021 by BillsFan619 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 12 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: TB, speaking of injuries, do you believe JA is at a level now where he would still do well if there was an injury or two at a star WR position? He did do well when there was an injury or two. He also did well when his shoulder was messed up, maybe not 31 points per game but he did put up 20+ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 i think we have a more balanced offense run/pass wise, which opens everything up and we score a ton of points as a result. I expect Moss and Davis to be better in year 2, as well as Knox to finally put it all together. Breida’s speed element will also enable this offense to keep moving. I’m excited. On 7/10/2021 at 5:42 PM, GreggTX said: If our D plays like last year, then we probably will. If our D plays much better, I could see a bit more focus on eating up the clock late in games. Either way, I don't see Daboll ratcheting the O down too much with our WR corps and Allen at QB. We also have 17 games this year, so I'll vote yes. I had the same thoughts. If our D plays better, we have the ball more. Daboll may run more, but we are getting points at a higher per possession pace than last year, IMO. We lost no talent on offense that was not replaced/upgraded. On 7/11/2021 at 6:53 PM, BillsFan619 said: Good thoughts. If it came down to a better more efficient defense, I’d gladly take less points. A better defense will be crucial to our Super Bowl run. Go Bills! agreed. I’ll score 3 points a game if we win all 3-0! But, I don’t see that happening. I think we slow it down perhaps against other high powered offenses, but there are not enough teams like that to keep us under 500 pts in 16 game year. Although WFT’s D will be a good, early test for the O against a near-elite or elite D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Okay, after further thought, I believe the stars have aligned in our favor, Allen’s number is 17, number of regular season games is 17, my sailboats Hull number is 17, are ya picking up what I’m laying down…, Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Okay, after further thought, I believe the stars have aligned in our favor, Allen’s number is 17, number of regular season games is 17, my sailboats Hull number is 17, are ya picking up what I’m laying down…, Go Bills!!! Woohoo! So, what you’re saying is that we’ll get 17 wins this year, one of them being a SB win. I like it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Lots of points do not directly correlate to wins. Teams that rack up a lot of points often are giving up a lot of points and have offenses that can score that are put in a position where they have to race to play catch-up. Allen had to put up a bunch of points because our defense could not close the door on most teams when we had the lead. I am hopeful that our defense will be improved - particularly their penchant for pissing away leads and also for getting teams into 3rd and long plays and letting them convert and move the chains. If we can win the turnover battles and get more stops it will not take a bucket load of points to put away teams and McD is not the type to run up the score if he has padded his lead and can run out the clock and slow things up, snap the ball at 0.00 on the play clock, and play keep away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 11 hours ago, WideNine said: Lots of points do not directly correlate to wins. Teams that rack up a lot of points often are giving up a lot of points and have offenses that can score that are put in a position where they have to race to play catch-up. Allen had to put up a bunch of points because our defense could not close the door on most teams when we had the lead. I am hopeful that our defense will be improved - particularly their penchant for pissing away leads and also for getting teams into 3rd and long plays and letting them convert and move the chains. If we can win the turnover battles and get more stops it will not take a bucket load of points to put away teams and McD is not the type to run up the score if he has padded his lead and can run out the clock and slow things up, snap the ball at 0.00 on the play clock, and play keep away. Good thoughts. I mentioned earlier in this thread that I’d gladly take less points if it meant a better and more efficient defense. That type of defense is so crucial to our Super Bowl run. Go Bills! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Run game will be more effective Allen will progress I vote Yes based off that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 10:39 PM, JerseyBills said: Run game will be more effective Allen will progress I vote Yes based off that Are you thinking one of DS, ZM or even MB breakout to make the run game more effective? Or do you think the run game will be more effective based on a collective effort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsFan619 said: Are you thinking one of DS, ZM or even MB breakout to make the run game more effective? Or do you think the run game will be more effective based on a collective effort? I'd anticipate 1 to separate themselves from the pack and them as a collective to be way more productive. I also think Dabol will be the biggest factor, now that Allen has become a master of this offense, I just feel Dabol will construct some new run schemes and make it more effective overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 This is hard to guess because on one hand if we do score over 500 points again it probably means the defense has not improved (or heaven forbid worsens). Therefore I would guess we probably don't score 500 points again but still field a top 10 offense with the defense looking more like the 2017 - 2019 version we saw which means we play more gritty low scoring affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathersnowman Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 got a good feeling some team will get spanked for 60 plus points this season , want to beat kansas in playoffs and if the defence improves then we will have a good record 14-3 my prediction and see where that takes us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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