Putin Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 On 6/24/2021 at 3:26 PM, Victory Formation said: If he’s receiving double teams all the time, what does it matter where he’s lined up? playing out of position what was discussed not facing double teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Ed Oliver has opinions on this point Good for you, Ed, if these lists are putting a little "***** in your grits" Go Get 'Em! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Ed Oliver has opinions on this point Good for you, Ed, if these lists are putting a little "***** in your grits" Go Get 'Em! Yea. Quinnen Williams ought to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Thats a pro right there ladies and gentleman. Making it look a lot easier than it actually is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 On 6/21/2021 at 1:03 PM, Simon said: He already has. He was the best player on the Bills defensive front last year and it wasn't really close. That maybe so, but he needs to make more game changing plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Never been an All Pro DT with arms as miniaturized as Oliver’s. He may break the mold, but good chance he is maxed. Good but not great. I suspect the great Alex Karras made the grade 50 + years ago, but arm length was not recorded for posterity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 34 minutes ago, hemma said: Never been an All Pro DT with arms as miniaturized as Oliver’s. He may break the mold, but good chance he is maxed. Good but not great. I suspect the great Alex Karras made the grade 50 + years ago, but arm length was not recorded for posterity. Wasnt John Randle not drafted because of his size and measurables? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) He really got asked to play out of position/scheme last year. Funny thing about a tough spot to be in like that is that normal reps are gunna feel alot easier for him next year. Like wrestling/fighting up a weight class, then coming back down. All the sudden youre a bigger fish in a smaller pond Edited July 2, 2021 by BillsShredder83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 9:27 AM, thenorthremembers said: Thats a pro right there ladies and gentleman. Making it look a lot easier than it actually is Yep, he is so comfortable up there that it almost looks like a fake video. Quite an equine btw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: Yep, he is so comfortable up there that it almost looks like a fake video. Quite an equine btw! It really is incredible. Especially bareback. Use to ride, and believe me I never made it look like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: It really is incredible. Especially bareback. Use to ride, and believe me I never made it look like that. Very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: It really is incredible. Especially bareback. Use to ride, and believe me I never made it look like that. I think I need to go back in the thread for some context here. Hopped in this thread, read this and... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I keep reading how of tern Oliver was double teamed last year. Anyone have any real data on this, like what percent of the time he was doubl?. And when you say double i assume you mean legitimate double teamed, not one guy chipping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, DJB said: I think I need to go back in the thread for some context here. Hopped in this thread, read this and... As I was typing the response I knew someone would take it here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said: Yep, he is so comfortable up there that it almost looks like a fake video. Quite an equine btw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: It really is incredible. Especially bareback. Use to ride, and believe me I never made it look like that. I've actually never been on a horse before so I have no clue on any of this. What makes what Oliver is doing difficult? Edited July 2, 2021 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 6 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: It really is incredible. Especially bareback. Use to ride, and believe me I never made it look like that. I'm pretty sure the saddle is there it just blends in with the horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 9 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I keep reading how of tern Oliver was double teamed last year. Anyone have any real data on this, like what percent of the time he was doubl?. And when you say double i assume you mean legitimate double teamed, not one guy chipping him. That information and analysis is towards the beginning of this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 20 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Wasnt John Randle not drafted because of his size and measurables? I think he kinda worked out sorta OK. I’m hoping Horrible Harry surprises us as well with more time for the knee to heal and him learning to forget about it. Add in the new guys, and I’m eager to see what we have! LET’S PLAY BALL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Oliver has all of the talent in the world, and now he will be further surrounded with new talent. This will be a very telling season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: Oliver has all of the talent in the world, and now he will be further surrounded with new talent. This will be a very telling season. Yes but NEXT season will really be able to tell because Rousseau and Boogie will have a bigger impact so .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Putin said: Yes but NEXT season will really be able to tell because Rousseau and Boogie will have a bigger impact so .... Yes...That is what I am getting at! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Augie said: I think he kinda worked out sorta OK. I’m hoping Horrible Harry surprises us as well with more time for the knee to heal and him learning to forget about it. Add in the new guys, and I’m eager to see what we have! LET’S PLAY BALL! Do you think John Randle now could play better than Marcel Dareus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Do you think John Randle now could play better than Marcel Dareus? Well, I think he would try harder….. If Dareus had his drive he’d be a lock for the HOF. Sadly, he’ll just be a guy who never tapped his full potential but has a nice collection of sailor caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Just now, Augie said: Well, I think he would try harder….. If Dareus had his drive he’d be a lock for the HOF. Sadly, he’ll just be a guy who never tapped his full potential but has a nice collection of sailor caps. Who would win in a hot dog eating contest….Dareus or Daboll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 2:54 PM, Royale with Cheese said: I've actually never been on a horse before so I have no clue on any of this. What makes what Oliver is doing difficult? His body control. Nothing on Ed is moving. He has the rein slack and the horse is effortlessly trotting and super comfertable with him. A lot of it probably has to do with his leg strength. But for comparison sake I am 6"1 and over 200 pounds and a horse can easily move me around on the saddle. This video looks almost cartoonish given the speed and size of the animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: His body control. Nothing on Ed is moving. He has the rein slack and the horse is effortlessly trotting and super comfertable with him. A lot of it probably has to do with his leg strength. But for comparison sake I am 6"1 and over 200 pounds and a horse can easily move me around on the saddle. This video looks almost cartoonish given the speed and size of the animal. Boy has got some strong inner thighs huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 3:29 AM, thenorthremembers said: It really is incredible. Especially bareback. Use to ride, and believe me I never made it look like that. Pretty sure I see a saddle and stirrups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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