AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME! Bills at Chiefs, Sunday 6:40 pm on CBS

[zow2]

Only 3 games left in the entire NFL season and we are one of them baby!!

[YoloinOhio]

 

[The Wiz]

4 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

Anyone thinking we pretty much utilize nearly the exact same game plan both on offense and defense as we did for week 6? Just add in a couple wrinkles. We held the Chiefs to 26 points for the game and to only 23 going into their final possession. Down only six with a chance to get the ball back and drive the field for the win. 

 

My thinking is we can't really do worst than we did on defense against the rush and we can't really have a worst offensive performance with only 206 total yards. Despite that it was less than a one score game with 4 and half minutes to go and we had them at their own 33 yard line staring down 3rd and 12. 

 

I guess if we were to change something up we would change up the offensive game plan to generate more yards. But I think Allen has progressed a lot since that game and would probably see the field a lot better both pre and post snap even with the same game plan.

 

Considering the health of the team now vs then, I can see them trying to play the same on defense for sure. 

 

Allen's injured shoulder hurt him in the first game so it's possible we could see the same offensive gameplan but feel like we are going to pull out all the plays that they have been saving for this match up. 

Edited January 23, 2021 by The Wiz

[Steptide]

1 more sleep

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

7 minutes ago, zow2 said:

 

The weather is all coming to a consensus.

5:40pm KC local time Sunday

34 degrees, chance of drizzle, breezy and cold, winds NE 10-20mph

 

Winds won’t be as bad as Orchard Park last Sat night but 10-20 is enough to disrupt things.

 

After the game ends into monday morning the weather deteriorates there 

where are you seeing that wind? Everything I am seeing says 9 MPH. 
 

Also, I have read that the walls of that stadium are straighter or higher or something, such that wind on the field ends up being less of an issue. Not sure how accurate that is.

[Zerovoltz]

I'll throw around some more numbers later....but I would like to give a BIG thank you to the Bills for drafting and developing Josh Allen and getting him to the awesome player he is today.....If the Bills were playing anyone other than KC, I'd be rooting my ass off for you guys...Love watching the Bills.....and even more than that, I HATE the Broncos...and just reading their fans over the past couple seasons watch Allen blossom into what he has, when they could have and should have drafted him.....has been very satisfying.  

[zow2]

Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

where are you seeing that wind? Everything I am seeing says 9 MPH. 
 

Also, I have read that the walls of that stadium are straighter or higher or something, such that wind on the field ends up being less of an issue. Not sure how accurate that is.

 

for the week i’m following a bunch of local KC news channels on twitter.  they’ve been posting the weather like crazy since a winter storm will be skirting that area late sunday night into monday.

[Kenosha2Buffalo]

I've had such an odd sense of calmness compared to regular season games even. Think it's because I've never experienced it, doesn't make a lot of sense though. Go bills !

[mannc]

3 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

I'll throw around some more numbers later....but I would like to give a BIG thank you to the Bills for drafting and developing Josh Allen and getting him to the awesome player he is today.....If the Bills were playing anyone other than KC, I'd be rooting my ass off for you guys...Love watching the Bills.....and even more than that, I HATE the Broncos...and just reading their fans over the past couple seasons watch Allen blossom into what he has, when they could have and should have drafted him.....has been very satisfying.  

The Broncos’ regret over that awful decision is going to grow greater every year.

[RobbRiddick]

20 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

OMG OMG OMG I still cant believe where in the championship game tomorrow  and 1 game away from the F#$%$# SB 🤪

 

It's pretty crazy. I still haven't wrapped my head around it. It was weird during the press conferences this week with the custom backdrop behind Josh with the AFC Championship logo all over it. Even the first reporter said it was trippy. 

 

When you think about the Bills this century and think back to Losman, Edwards, Buddy Nix, EJ, Jauron and all the rest of them it's just insane to think that we're one of the final 4 teams left in the entire league

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

1 hour ago, Zerovoltz said:

 

So....if you go back and look at that game again.....the Bills ran 10 personel 16 times that game.  HALF of those were in the 4th Q trailing late.  Sounds like a good plan.

 

KC has the guys to cover that...I hope the Bills run 10 personell the whole game.

I keep hearing how amazing the KC offense is and how their defense is very good. And yet somehow they haven’t won by more than 6 points in any of their last 9 games. I would think an unstoppable offense and very good defense would lead to the ability to outscore many of those mediocre teams by more than one TD? 

[Big C]

20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Be honest how many of you saw this and screamed before you got to Thomas?

[starrymessenger]

52 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Oh boy Honey Badger, being HYPED like he’s Ed Reed.

 

He’s a great player. But he’s not Rod Woodson or Ronnie Lott. 
 

KC has lost games with Mahomes on the team, they aren’t undefeated. 

JMO but he may well be the best all round safety in the league.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

14 minutes ago, zow2 said:

 

for the week i’m following a bunch of local KC news channels on twitter.  they’ve been posting the weather like crazy since a winter storm will be skirting that area late sunday night into monday.

I have been looking at similar stuff, and haven’t seen high wind projections. The latest stuff I have seen from the local feeds is light mist and nothing mentioned about high winds.  
 

Not doubting you— but if you can provide a channel you are looking at, that would be great. That way I can obsessively Follow it too and stress out some more. 

[RevWarRifleman]

Go Bills!!  I want revenge for the 1967 AFL championship game. Yes, I remember it.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

3 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

JMO but he may well be the best all round safety in the league.

That’s fine. He may be.

 

I guess my thought all week is we can be scared of the Chiefs, play to stay close, or we can be ourselves and give it all we’ve got.

 

He can’t cover every single WR on the field simultaneously. 
 

We’ve always turned the other cheek as Bills fans, always were happy to break this curse or take our morale victories.

 

This Bills team is good enough to beat Almighty KC. And nothing is guaranteed, win while you have the chance.

 

Mahomes has a wildfires worth of smoke being blown his way by the media.

Edited January 23, 2021 by Straight Hucklebuck

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

@Hapless Bills Fan 

 

If you read into those stats more....you see Buffalo has an even better pass D VS WR than KC does....however, the difference maker for KC is Kelce.  Buffalo had 25% of their opponents targets go to TE...that was tied for highest with a couple other teams...and as you see the Bills have a poor success rate VS TE (makes sense that teams would target the TE vs a team that isn't good at stopping the TE) .....

 

Kelce is what gives KC the advantage in the game.  He is a big part of what makes KC dangerous....if you stop the WRs with two deep zone etc....you aren't stopping Kelce...if you dedicated 2 guys to stopping Kelce, Mahomes is going to find the open target elsewhere......couple that with your lack of a 4 man pass rush....that is advantage KC.  It's why I have KC winning the game.  All other things being equal...TE is decidedly not equal here.

That's well thought out reasoning and I have the Bills winning this game because Allen is a better runner than Mahomes even without the lingering toe injury.  It should help us pick up first downs, in the red zone, and extend plays long enough for our WR's to get open.  Singletary, Knox, and Yeldon need to step up as I suspect Daboll recognizes the importance of throwing them the ball whether it's through screens or quick passes.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Just now, RevWarRifleman said:

Go Bills!!  I want revenge for the 1967 AFL championship game. Yes, I remember it.

Dang, you need to let go of that!!  😁

[Patrick Duffy]

3 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

 

It's pretty crazy. I still haven't wrapped my head around it. It was weird during the press conferences this week with the custom backdrop behind Josh with the AFC Championship logo all over it. Even the first reporter said it was trippy. 

 

When you think about the Bills this century and think back to Losman, Edwards, Buddy Nix, EJ, Jauron and all the rest of them it's just insane to think that we're one of the final 4 teams left in the entire league

I'm in the same boat lol. It's just when Bills were good and went to 4 Super Bowls I was 14, 15, 16 years old. Was kinda used to/expecting success back then. That's been so long ago I'm trying to remember that feeling.

 

Lol, and my emotions are just all over the place. I'm extremely happy and over joyed, anxious, nervous, little scared I guess you could say. All those bundled up into one. But it's awesome!

[Zerovoltz]

1.  Not all, but some of the 1 score games you talk about...KC had well in hand and teams scored late to make them 1 score games.

 

2.  There is something to be said for having the target of "super bowl champs" on your back.  You get the best shots alot of teams have.....the Carolina game that we almost lost, they threw the entire kitchen sink of 4th downs, fake punts, trick gadget plays....they brought everything they had in a non conference game that KC probably was looking past.

 

3.  Speaking of looking past opponents....I'd like to tell you KC brought the A game all year long and took eveyrone seriously.  They DID NOT.  But in games that had a major billing...VS bills week 6, two score win...VS Baltimore week 3, two score win.  VS new Orleans...late score to get within a score....same with Tampa....and all road games.  KC up 19-3 on Cleveland before Mahomes injury....

 

I'd not put too much into that margin of victory thing, but even if you do, KC's point differential is still very good.

[Patrick Duffy]

6 minutes ago, chknwing334 said:

I keep hearing how amazing the KC offense is and how their defense is very good. And yet somehow they haven’t won by more than 6 points in any of their last 9 games. I would think an unstoppable offense and very good defense would lead to the ability to outscore many of those mediocre teams by more than one TD? 

I'm not sure because I don't follow them much, but I guess it could be possible that in some of those games they had a big lead and took the foot off the gas in which case teams got some garbage points.?

[starrymessenger]

54 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

This game is going to be fun to watch. The defense is clearly much better than it was during that first game. But I am really optimistic about the Bills offense too. Jon Feliciano was out that last game. John Brown was playing hurt. And I think Dawson Knox will play a key role this time around. KC has been weak all year against defending TEs. There are many things that have changed. Even Allen appears to be playing at a higher level. I suspect our TEs and RBs will be heavily involved in the passing game, especially if KC continues to run with 2 deep safties. The OL has been doing a fantastic job blocking for Josh lately. There are so many little things. It all adds up to a big surprise for KC. I suspect the offense will really get rolling.

Its apparent that the Bills are capable of playing at a high level on both sides of the ball, even though we often have one side bailing the other out. I’m hoping obviously that we get the best of both tomorrow. I have a feeling that the D comes up big but frankly I worry about the health of our WRs.

[Patrick Duffy]

3 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

1.  Not all, but some of the 1 score games you talk about...KC had well in hand and teams scored late to make them 1 score games.

 

2.  There is something to be said for having the target of "super bowl champs" on your back.  You get the best shots alot of teams have.....the Carolina game that we almost lost, they threw the entire kitchen sink of 4th downs, fake punts, trick gadget plays....they brought everything they had in a non conference game that KC probably was looking past.

 

3.  Speaking of looking past opponents....I'd like to tell you KC brought the A game all year long and took eveyrone seriously.  They DID NOT.  But in games that had a major billing...VS bills week 6, two score win...VS Baltimore week 3, two score win.  VS new Orleans...late score to get within a score....same with Tampa....and all road games.  KC up 19-3 on Cleveland before Mahomes injury....

 

I'd not put too much into that margin of victory thing, but even if you do, KC's point differential is still very good.

Yeah that's what I was wondering. Wasn't sure because I don't watch Chiefs, but figured that was likely the case in some games anyway.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

10 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

1.  Not all, but some of the 1 score games you talk about...KC had well in hand and teams scored late to make them 1 score games.

 

2.  There is something to be said for having the target of "super bowl champs" on your back.  You get the best shots alot of teams have.....the Carolina game that we almost lost, they threw the entire kitchen sink of 4th downs, fake punts, trick gadget plays....they brought everything they had in a non conference game that KC probably was looking past.

 

3.  Speaking of looking past opponents....I'd like to tell you KC brought the A game all year long and took eveyrone seriously.  They DID NOT.  But in games that had a major billing...VS bills week 6, two score win...VS Baltimore week 3, two score win.  VS new Orleans...late score to get within a score....same with Tampa....and all road games.  KC up 19-3 on Cleveland before Mahomes injury....

 

I'd not put too much into that margin of victory thing, but even if you do, KC's point differential is still very good.

So for 9 games in a row, the Chiefs took their foot off the gas early enough to let teams come back and get within one TD? Sounds like poor coaching. Or a weak defense that couldn’t close out games. At least that’s the narrative that would be circulating the Bills were the team in that situation. 
 

*I know you are a very knowledgeable and fair poster and I don’t mean this to come across as an attack on your post. It’s something I’m seeing from many of the national media too. 

Edited January 23, 2021 by chknwing334

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

23 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

I'll throw around some more numbers later....but I would like to give a BIG thank you to the Bills for drafting and developing Josh Allen and getting him to the awesome player he is today.....If the Bills were playing anyone other than KC, I'd be rooting my ass off for you guys...Love watching the Bills.....and even more than that, I HATE the Broncos...and just reading their fans over the past couple seasons watch Allen blossom into what he has, when they could have and should have drafted him.....has been very satisfying.  

 

Yep. I don't have an account over there on the Orange Mane but yeah, I've seen you beat those guys over the head about them passing on Allen. The way I see it, the Broncos just had terrible luck. That bad luck being terrible timing. Elway swung and missed massively twice on Oz and Lynch. Two big QB's, with perhaps underwhelming collegiate production and with athletic ability in the case of Lynch. But both were viewed as long term projects as Allen was. It would have taken massive balls for Elway to commit to a third prospect of this kind in Allen. The irony of it all of course is that Allen is probably the prototypical Elway QB prospect. And we learned that Elway's balls were not quite as large as we thought.

 

Now you just need to work on chilling out your fellow Chiefs fans over at Chiefs Planet. So many posters over there feel threatened by the fact that Allen could possibly be on the same level as Mahomes. 

 

As you said, the Bills have done a bang up job on developing Josh. Not just working with him specifically but building good offensive personnel around him. Not a knock at Mahomes but Allen was not given a golden plate so to speak when he became the Bills starting QB like Mahomes was given from day 1. It seems many Chiefs fans and some in the media do not take this into account.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

9 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

Its apparent that the Bills are capable of playing at a high level on both sides of the ball, even though we often have one side bailing the other out. I’m hoping obviously that we get the best of both tomorrow. I have a feeling that the D comes up big but frankly I worry about the health of our WRs.

Our WRs are going to give it all they got.

 

Diggs will be out there. Beasley is fine. Brown is healthy. Davis has a an ankle sprain. McKenzie is healthy and Stills is in wait. This team is going to give it everything they have.

[Patrick Duffy]

1 hour ago, Zerovoltz said:

 

I agree that you can't glean a whole lot from one game....but that's also why I posted the season stats first a few posts before that one.  

I'm sure this has been pointed out to you, but anyways, Bills that game Allen had a bum shoulder and had an impact on his throwing that game against the Chiefs. Also Bills were missing quite a few impact starters on Defense. Especially 1 being Matt Milano. Bills D is much better when he plays, actually much better than you would think being just 1 player.

 

But his presence alone does make that much of a difference. I believe it was at least 2 other starters on D that was out. The Bills at that time didn't know for sure who and when their opponent would be due to the NFL baby walking the Titans. Game planning for 2 teams at the same time I'm sure was a challenge.

 

In any event I'm not trying to make excuses here, even though it may come off that way. I'm simply saying that I wouldn't put but so much stock into that week 6 game. This game I expect will be a lot better for them.

[Pasaluki]

If I said at the beginning of the season that the Bills would be a 3 point underdog against the Chiefs at Arrowhead for the AFC Championship, who would ever believe it??

 

I love how together this team is. 

They have made us so proud. 

 

Go Bills!!!!

Glory to Josh Allen!

[Steptide]

16 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

I'm not sure because I don't follow them much, but I guess it could be possible that in some of those games they had a big lead and took the foot off the gas in which case teams got some garbage points.?

Not really. Actually against the Falcons, the cheifs should've lost. Mahomes had like three picks that Atlanta players dropped. Matt Ryan was throwing all over their defense. Other teams were the same way against the cheifs. Having said that, they still only lost one game with their starters. You could make the argument that the cheifs haven't played a team as good as the bills though. Bills schedule definetly alot harder than the cheifs schedule 

Edited January 23, 2021 by Steptide

[YoloinOhio]

 

[RiotAct]

26 minutes ago, Big C said:

Be honest how many of you saw this and screamed before you got to Thomas?

the other Duke’s gonna be big for us in the Super Bowl

[Patrick Duffy]

2 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Not really. Actually against the Falcons, the cheifs should've lost. Mahomes had like three picks that Atlanta players dropped. Matt Ryan was throwing all over their defense. Other teams were the same way against the cheifs. Having said that, they still only lost one game with their starters. You could make the argument that the cheifs haven't played a team as good as the bills though. Bills schedule definetly alot harder than the cheifs schedule 

Yeah I do remember that particular game. The highlights of it anyways. Yeah they should have lost that 1, but was talking about some of the others down the stretch? 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

16 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

1.  Not all, but some of the 1 score games you talk about...KC had well in hand and teams scored late to make them 1 score games.

 

This is actually a fair point.  Excluding the Chargers game where the Chiefs were resting people, I would say it's true of 4 out of the final 7 games (Car, Tampa, Mia, NO) and not true of the Raiders (who led 3x including 31-28 late), Broncos (led 16-12) and Falcons (led 14-10).

 

Of course, it's equally true that some of the Bills games were not as close as the final score would appear because we let them back in it...and the counterpunch to that is the difference between "garbage time scoring" and "a brilliant come from behind effort" is only determined retrospectively, after the time W or L.

 

 

16 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

2.  There is something to be said for having the target of "super bowl champs" on your back.  You get the best shots alot of teams have.....the Carolina game that we almost lost, they threw the entire kitchen sink of 4th downs, fake punts, trick gadget plays....they brought everything they had in a non conference game that KC probably was looking past.

 

I actually put the Carolina game down as one where KC was comfortably ahead!  Hmmm

[Patrick Duffy]

3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

This is actually a fair point.  Excluding the Chargers game where the Chiefs were resting people, I would say it's true of 4 out of the final 7 games (Car, Tampa, Mia, NO) and not true of the Raiders (who led 3x including 31-28 late), Broncos (led 16-12) and Falcons (led 14-10).

 

Of course, it's equally true that some of the Bills games were not as close as the final score would appear because we let them back in it...and the counterpunch to that is the difference between "garbage time scoring" and "a brilliant come from behind effort" is only determined retrospectively, after the time W or L.

 

 

 

I actually put the Carolina game down as one where KC was comfortably ahead!  Hmmm

To the bold, that's somewhat true, especially in the earlier part of the season. the last quarter to quarter and half of the season though Bills changed that tune and were beating the breaks off teams. I mean they kept the foot on the gas and kept passing on many occasions.

 

Which I loved it and what I wanted them to do.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Say what?

 

 

 

[Patrick Duffy]

2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Say what?

 

 

I'm confused as to why the Bills would post that. Unless it's some sort of sarcastic post that I can't see. lol

Edited January 23, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Oh them. ESPN

 

USA Today 

 

they were wrong last week too

[RiotAct]

4 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

I'm confused as to why the Bills would post that. Unless it's some sort of sarcastic post that I can't see. lol

simply a “look at the disrespect that we’re given” post.

[starrymessenger]

19 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Our WRs are going to give it all they got.

 

Diggs will be out there. Beasley is fine. Brown is healthy. Davis has a an ankle sprain. McKenzie is healthy and Stills is in wait. This team is going to give it everything they have.

TBH I’m not at all sure Brown and Beas are entirely themselves right now. Sure they will play and give it all they have got.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

7 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

I'm confused as to why the Bills would post that. Unless it's some sort of sarcastic post that I can't see. lol

They always post the Around the league picks. 
 

I Agree that the title is F’d up.