YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Fascinated by this hire. Am led to believe Scott Linehan is his first choice for OC and he was in on Dan Quinn for DC before he signed with Dallas. That is noteworthy because both Linehan and Dan Quinn were on Nick Saban's first staff in Miami. I haven’t heard anything about OC. He has offered the DC position to Greg Mattison. He will likely take it but if not Chris Ash is his 2nd choice. He has offered his DL coach position to Charlie strong. Mattison has had NfL experience with Harbaugh/Ravens but it’s been over a decade. Thought he could go more nfl heavy on assistants. I expect a run at Harry Heistand as OL coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He and Vrabel loathe each other so that should be great theater twice a year what caused the loathing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: what caused the loathing? Urban was a jerk to his buddy Luke Fickell. Per source, Vrabel attacked him by the throat (this was when he worked for him for that one year as DL coach) Edited January 15, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 36 minutes ago, Big Turk said: What long term College coach other than Pete Carroll has had any real recent success in the NFL? Doug Marrone? 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I tend to agree with most on here. I think Urban Meyer is in for a rude awakening in the NFL... the job is completely different in the pros as compared to college. Steve Spurrier's run in Washington is what I imagine Jacksonville will look like over the next couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 42 minutes ago, Augie said: If I’m one of the dozen Jags fans, I’m NOT excited by this. You can’t “out-recruit” because of the Jags name in the NFL. It’s the pros, new ballgame. He might be just fine, but how long is he going to last? His track record says not all that long before he’s retired again, for whatever reason. NEVER in a million years would I trade McD for Meyer. I feel like we have a real and long term solution. They have a short term big splash, IMO. McD wasn’t available tho. It’s not like they had that choice. Let alone it took McD three years to cement himself as a real and long term solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Good - let that whole division beat each other up every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 El oh el Good luck Suburban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I bet Urban retires in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 This whole thing reminds of when Hayden Fox went to coach the Breakers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 48 minutes ago, Doc said: My son was saying that because they hired Meyer, they are actually entertaining taking Justin Felds first overall. I laughed. Certainly possible if someone trades him a bunch of picks. I am sure he got inside info on him from his protégé Ryan Day. https://sports.yahoo.com/urban-planner-does-meyers-arrival-with-jaguars-open-the-door-at-all-for-justin-fields-at-1-201638004.html Personally I think a lot of players for Ohio State have been overrated due to level of coaching. We heard similar things about "Wrong" Josh which we have heard about Lawrence. If he does it he will probably sign Lawrence and then trade him for picks on draft day to ensure he gets is one he wants. It would be a bad start to trade #1 pick (although high chance he will have #1 pick next year as well) and then not get the player he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Urban Meyer has a really good history as a program builder and this is a pretty good choice, especially considering that college coaches transitioning to the NFL is a more viable idea than ever. Matt rule and Cliff Kingsbury are currently in the NFL, Pete Carroll is the obvious success story from college, Doug Marrone has had some NFL success too. On top of that it's quite the underrated job because you have a strong owner that's willing to spend money and give people time, the consensus best quarterback prospect in a while, and the next cap space where you don't have to take a year to completely tear everything down. I don't know if this will work, but I definitely think this is the right type of hire for Jacksonville. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: 2021 Hard Knocks? 1st year head coaches can't be on the show. I'll be shocked if it isn't the Cowboys. Too many storylines in a big market for HBO to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 24 minutes ago, FireChans said: McD wasn’t available tho. It’s not like they had that choice. Let alone it took McD three years to cement himself as a real and long term solution. That's how long it usually takes coaches. If they ever do. 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Certainly possible if someone trades him a bunch of picks. I am sure he got inside info on him from his protégé Ryan Day. https://sports.yahoo.com/urban-planner-does-meyers-arrival-with-jaguars-open-the-door-at-all-for-justin-fields-at-1-201638004.html Personally I think a lot of players for Ohio State have been overrated due to level of coaching. We heard similar things about "Wrong" Josh which we have heard about Lawrence. If he does it he will probably sign Lawrence and then trade him for picks on draft day to ensure he gets is one he wants. It would be a bad start to trade #1 pick (although high chance he will have #1 pick next year as well) and then not get the player he wants. I can't see it. Lawrence is a consensus "generational QB" and taking him first overall wouldn't be a risk because if he fails, it's because he failed, not the Jags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc said: I can't see it. Lawrence is a consensus "generational QB" and taking him first overall wouldn't be a risk because if he fails, it's because he failed, not the Jags. Consensus "generational QBs" are the type of players a team can get "Herschel Walker" type boatload of picks which can transform a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: 1st year head coaches can't be on the show. I'll be shocked if it isn't the Cowboys. Too many storylines in a big market for HBO to ignore. That would be super boring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: Consensus "generational QBs" are the type of players a team can get "Herschel Walker" type boatload of picks which can transform a franchise. Maybe. But the Cowboys would have been nowhere without getting Aikman, which had nothing to do with HW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, HappyDays said: 1st year head coaches can't be on the show. I'll be shocked if it isn't the Cowboys. Too many storylines in a big market for HBO to ignore. Yes they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Fascinated by this hire. Am led to believe Scott Linehan is his first choice for OC and he was in on Dan Quinn for DC before he signed with Dallas. That is noteworthy because both Linehan and Dan Quinn were on Nick Saban's first staff in Miami. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, FireChans said: Yes they can. Did they change the rule? Last year the rule was you can't be on if you have a 1st year head coach, or have been in the playoffs within the last 2 seasons, or have already been on the show within the last 10 years. Under those rules it's Cowboys, Giants, Broncos, or Cardinals. Edited January 15, 2021 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FireChans Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, HappyDays said: Did they change the rule? Last year the rule was you can't be on if you have a 1st year head coach, or have been in the playoffs within the last 2 seasons, or have already been on the show within the last 10 years. Under those rules it's Cowboys, Giants, Panthers, Broncos, or Cardinals. That’s only the rule for the NFL forcing a team to participate. Been that way for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, FireChans said: That’s only the rule for the NFL forcing a team to participate. Been that way for years. True but I wouldn't expect any team to volunteer. I guess if any team would it would be the London Jaguars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: True but I wouldn't expect any team to volunteer. I guess if any team would it would be the London Jaguars. I would not be at all surprised if he volunteers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Good luck getting players if they move to London. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 The NFL isn’t glamorous man unless you win it all. You’re in the office 18-hours a day, sleeping on couches, eating pizza out of the box, grinding, studying tape relentlessly. Meyer has turned around every team he’s been on, but you have to wonder if he’s really going to outscheme the veteran coaches in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: The NFL isn’t glamorous man unless you win it all. You’re in the office 18-hours a day, sleeping on couches, eating pizza out of the box, grinding, studying tape relentlessly. Meyer has turned around every team he’s been on, but you have to wonder if he’s really going to outscheme the veteran coaches in the league. I don’t think he will be much into the scheming. I think he will be more of the CEO/ face of the franchise HC. Coordinators will handle the schemes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonderful Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: What long term College coach other than Pete Carroll has had any real recent success in the NFL? Recent. Dang! I was going to say Marv Levy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I think he lasts for 3 years or less and has nowhere near he success he did in college. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 53 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t think he will be much into the scheming. I think he will be more of the CEO/ face of the franchise HC. Coordinators will handle the schemes I have to ask then... What's the point? He's not recruiting high school kids. Im guessing he will be the new highest paid coach in the league (not sure if those terms have been released yet). Seems like a ridiculous hire any way its spun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: I have to ask then... What's the point? He's not recruiting high school kids. Im guessing he will be the new highest paid coach in the league (not sure if those terms have been released yet). Seems like a ridiculous hire any way its spun. He’s a program builder, and they need a complete overhaul. He will be involved in approving game plans and obviously game management but he won’t be calling plays or anything. At Ohio state he was in a CEO type role almost the entire time. This is what McDermott does btw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s a program builder, and they need a complete overhaul. He will be involved in approving game plans and obviously game management but he won’t be calling plays or anything. At Ohio state he was in a CEO type role almost the entire time. This is what McDermott does btw. Agree to disagree... McD had his arse in the grass in the NFL for years coming to the Bills. Meyer has been chilling on the couch for 2 years + with no prior NFL experience. When LF doesn't get the job done on D McD takes the playcalling. I dont see what he brings to the table. Edited January 15, 2021 by Bferra13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Agree to disagree... McD had his arse in the grass in the NFL for years coming to the Bills. Meyer has been chilling on the couch for 2 years + with no prior NFL experience. When LF doesn't get the job done on D McD takes the playcalling. I dont see what he brings to the table. On record McDermott has only taken play calling duties from Frazier once in 4 years. Fans act like it happens four times a year. It's happened once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, Bferra13 said: Agree to disagree... McD had his arse in the grass in the NFL for years coming to the Bills. Meyer has been chilling on the couch. I dont see what he brings to the table. It is a similar role for the team. Not similar background. Jax hired someone to come in build a program and change the culture. He will have his coordinators deal with the Xs and Os though I’m sure he will provide input. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: On record McDermott has only taken play calling duties from Frazier once in 4 years. Fans act like it happens four times a year. It's happened once Very true. I remember the results were darn good after that happened though. I think that's why it sticks in people's minds. Very easily could have been from a number of factors though. Edited January 15, 2021 by Bferra13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Hearing it was a 1.5 year deal, with all sides deciding to be realistic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Yolo , as a fellow big buckeye guy, how big is this for this moribund Jax franchise His “above the line” philosophy and accountability are things Jax has lacked since coughlin went into Buffalo with Boselli and beat Bruce while ending Jimbo’s career I gave up my founding member jag season tickets after that and never regretted it as they have been boring and struggled just like the Bills during their drought This will turn Jax into a legit franchise again Sure wish urban was back at Ohio state tho I haven’t been to jags game in forever now as it conflicts too often w my only love the Bills. Now with urban being 20 min away ( and amazing fact , I did my medical residency at MERCY HOSPITAL in Toledo and Urban and Jim harbUgh were both BORN, delivered at that unit and that’s where I learned how to and performed my first solo delivery! ) I may go take in a game just to support a fellow native buckeye , and I may see if I can get an autograph and maybe take a little creative liberty and shake hands with him using the hand that may have been responsible for his first tears! Lol! ( I am 63 so unless urban is around 38-40 , he prob got out of the womb before I had a shot at him! ) Harbaugh may have been dropped on his head , ending up In Michigan! Hey those babies can shoot out like a pouncy snap over big Ben’s head, so you can’t catch em all! Esp if the Med record showed the parents were from MICHIGAN! Lol !!!😂😂 OH —— IO ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Doc said: Good luck getting players if they move to London. More fool them. It is the greatest city on earth. 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It is a similar role for the team. Not similar background. Jax hired someone to come in build a program and change the culture. He will have his coordinators deal with the Xs and Os though I’m sure he will provide input. Completely correct. And the Jags needed that so badly. When was the last time anyone really knew who was running the ship in Jacksonville? Well they will know now. They are all living in Urban's world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Having called Jacksonville my home base since ‘96, I can state unequivocally the city is overdue for an ‘Urban Renewal Program’.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Big Turk said: What long term College coach other than Pete Carroll has had any real recent success in the NFL? Jimmy Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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