So you're saying there's a chance!!! Number 1 seed possibility

[BillsFanThru-N-Thru]

While KC has the number 1 seed virtually locked, there is one scenario where the Bills can still get the number seed which involves the Bills, KC and Pitt all finishing 13-3.  It would have to happen as follows:

 

1.)  Bills would need these NFC South to lose in week 17 
        New Orleans vs Minnesota, Tampa Bay vs Detroit, Carolina vs Washington
2.)  Tennessee Titans to beat the Green Bay Packers and Houston Texans
3.)  Baltimore Ravens lose both of their remaining games
4.)  Indianapolis Colts lose Pittsburg
5.)  Arizona Cardinals lose both of their remaining two games
6.)  Atlanta Falcons beat the KC Chiefs and Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7.)  Miami Dolphins beating the Las Vegas Raiders
8.)  Cincinnati Bengals beating Houston Texans
9.)  NY Jets beating the Cleveland Browns
10.) LA Chargers beating the Denver Broncos and KC Chiefs

[Seventeen]

You forgot Charlie Woods winning the Masters before he turns 18.

[MAJBobby]

Ahhh I used to remember these convoluted impossible scenarios to MAKE the playoffs.  Now at least we are doing them for the 1 seed this year LOL.  But yes it Does give Bills the 1 seed, just put it in the ESPN calculator.

Edited December 22, 2020 by MAJBobby

[TBBills]

KC needs to lose twice... Yea ok.

[Captain Caveman]

Yeah, I can't tell which is more unlikely, Kansas City losing twice or Pittsburgh winning once.

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Captain Caveman said:

Yeah, I can't tell which is more unlikely, Kansas City losing twice or Pittsburgh winning once.

Or Jets beating the Browns

[BillsFanThru-N-Thru]

6 minutes ago, TBBills said:

KC needs to lose twice... Yea ok.

Yeah I know that's why I started with KC is virtually a lock

[Brennan Huff]

I love the optimism, but I’ll be happy if we can hold on to the #2 seed

[Matt_In_NH]

14 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Ahhh I used to remember these convoluted impossible scenarios to MAKE the playoffs.  Now at least we are doing them for the 1 seed this year LOL.  But yes it Does give Bills the 1 seed, just put it in the ESPN calculator.

All that other stuff is less likely than the Chiefs losing their final two.  Its done, they are the one seed, they can rest their guys safely if they want.   then again, they hardly need to since they get a bye.

[RoyBatty is alive]

4 minutes ago, BillsFanThru-N-Thru said:

Yeah I know that's why I started with KC is virtually a lock

Hasnt the past few days taught you there is no such thing as a lock in the NFL.  The Jets beat the Rams and the Bengals beat the Steelers.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, mattynh said:

All that other stuff is less likely than the Chiefs losing their final two.  Its done, they are the one seed, they can rest their guys safely if they want.   then again, they hardly need to since they get a bye.

Agree, but I also remember not that long ago these were the thread talked about to MAKE the playoffs.  Now we are doing it for 1 seed, yeah I like that feeling better.

 

Just lock 2 seed next week and Rest Starters week 17

[BillsFanThru-N-Thru]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

This list makes no sense.  Why do NFC games have to do with us getting the number one seed in the AFC?  
 

Also, we can’t get the number one seed.  First tie breaker is head to head, if applicable.  We were beaten by KC, best we can do is tie them if we win out and they lose out.  They still win the tie breaker.  
 

So this is a mute point, best we can finish is the 2 seed now.  

Head to head doesn't matter if there are more then 2 teams tied and not all the teams played each other.  Thus we need to be tied with KC and Pitt. The rest have to do with strength of schedule and nuances like that

[GoBills808]

4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

We can’t get the number one seed.  
 

First tie breaker is head to head, if applicable.  We were beaten by KC, best we can do is tie them if we win out and they lose out.  They still win the tie breaker.  
 

So this is a mute point, best we can finish is the 2 seed now.  

He has 3 teams finishing 13-3

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Hasnt the past few days taught you there is no such thing as a lock in the NFL.  The Jets beat the Rams and the Bengals beat the Steelers.

 

There isnt a team in the NFL that couldnt beat the Steelers right now, specially if the Tik Toc clown keeps dancing on logos in front of them. 

 

Then the Immobile, No Arm, Cant see QB tossing up Hospital balls outside 6 yards from the LOS.

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

We can’t get the number one seed.  
 

First tie breaker is head to head, if applicable.  We were beaten by KC, best we can do is tie them if we win out and they lose out.  They still win the tie breaker.  
 

So this is a mute point, best we can finish is the 2 seed now.  

We win in a 3 way tie.  Not 2 way

[Alphadawg7]

1 minute ago, BillsFanThru-N-Thru said:

Head to head doesn't matter if there are more then 2 teams tied and not all the teams played each other.  Thus we need to be tied with KC and Pitt. The rest have to do with strength of schedule and nuances like that

Ah just read the crazy scenario online, didn’t realize that would be the case.  My bad, thanks for clarity.  Obviously we are not going to be the number 1 seed, but now I see why your post was laid all that out.  

[RoyBatty is alive]

7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

There isnt a team in the NFL that couldnt beat the Steelers right now, specially if the Tik Toc clown keeps dancing on logos in front of them. 

 

Then the Immobile, No Arm, Cant see QB tossing up Hospital balls outside 6 yards from the LOS.

 

Easy to sate that now,  after a huge upset over the Bengals without a real quarterback.  The Steelers were a heavy favorite yesterday.

 

Three in a row is a real issue for them, self doubt has got to enter.  Big Ben needs to retire and Tomlin is not the incredible coach peolpe have been pumping him up to be, close to the deification that Belichek has enjoyed.  Lets see how Pittsburgh and the Patriots do next year 

Edited December 22, 2020 by RoyBatty is alive

[MAJBobby]

Just now, RoyBatty is alive said:

 

Easy to sate that now,  after a huge upset over the Bengals without a real quarterback.  The Steelers were a heavy favorite yesterday.

 

Three in a row is a real issue for them, self doubt has got to enter.  Big Ben needs to retire and Tomlin is not the incredible coach peolpe have been pumping him up to be, close to the deification that Belichek has enjoyed.  Lets see how Pittsburgh and the Patriots do next year 

Dont matter about the Heavy Favorite stuff.  Ben is Done.  I am just surprised it has taken defenses this long to squat on the short stuff.  Ben really needs to think about his decision he made about coming back next year.

 

He is a Liability for the Steelers.  He cannot move off his spot, His Arm is dead (maybe it is worn out from the surgery and then the season), but wont get better, and Now he has issues seeing the field.  

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Dont matter about the Heavy Favorite stuff.  Ben is Done.  I am just surprised it has taken defenses this long to squat on the short stuff.  Ben really needs to think about his decision he made about coming back next year.

 

He is a Liability for the Steelers.  He cannot move off his spot, His Arm is dead (maybe it is worn out from the surgery and then the season), but wont get better, and Now he has issues seeing the field.  

Crazy how terrible he is now.  Definitely seems like you’re right about surgery + overuse = dead arm.  He’s awful.  Sucks that we can’t play them in rd 1.  No way they make it to rd 2 

[rockpile]

I will be happy if the Bills win their next game, and I will try to take it a week at a time until there are no more games to play this season.  

 

[jlgarsh]

I made this on the playoff machine earlier, 

 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

 

Nevermind it won't let me post the image from my phone

Edited December 22, 2020 by jlgarsh

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Two weeks ago this looked like a possibility. But Pitt needed to beat the Bengals. Pittsburgh just hopes they don't lose out at this point. They have two tough games left. Browns may actually take the division. Anyone know if it is possible the Steelers could slip to the 7th seed? I think Ravens would have to not ,make it in that scenario which means Bills would have to lose week 17 to the Dolphins. But what are the tie breakers with Miami and Pitt? And could we have the #2 seed locked up before the Miami game? That would require the Titans to lose this week to the Packers I think?

39 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

Yeah, I can't tell which is more unlikely, Kansas City losing twice or Pittsburgh winning once.

 

Pittsburgh for sure.

[BillsFanThru-N-Thru]

20 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

Two weeks ago this looked like a possibility. But Pitt needed to beat the Bengals. Pittsburgh just hopes they don't lose out at this point. They have two tough games left. Browns may actually take the division. Anyone know if it is possible the Steelers could slip to the 7th seed? I think Ravens would have to not ,make it in that scenario which means Bills would have to lose week 17 to the Dolphins. But what are the tie breakers with Miami and Pitt? And could we have the #2 seed locked up before the Miami game? That would require the Titans to lose this week to the Packers I think?

 

Pittsburgh for sure.

Just us beating NE and Pitt losing to Indi.  If this happens then #2 seed is locked and Miami game is meaningless.  Doesn't matter what the other teams do. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

7 minutes ago, BillsFanThru-N-Thru said:

Just us beating NE and Pitt losing to Indi.  If this happens then #2 seed is locked and Miami game is meaningless.  Doesn't matter what the other teams do. 

 

Found a scenario where if the Browns lose to the Jets (unlikely but who knows) then the TItans could get the #2 seed even if we beat the Patriots and Pitt loses to Indy.  Basically Bills have to be in a three way tie if the Titans have the same record as the Bills. So we beat Titans on non-head to head tie breakers.

 

Could be more scenarios too but that's the only one I have seen so far.

 

I know Dolphins fans are praying that we have our seed locked up going into week 17. But I don't like the idea of gifting Miami a win and giving them even an ounce of confidence that they can hand with us in January in Buffalo. Especially don't like giving them any confidence when we will be playing them the following week.

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Hasnt the past few days taught you there is no such thing as a lock in the NFL.  The Jets beat the Rams and the Bengals beat the Steelers.

The only sure lock was the Bills creaming the Broncos.

[djp14150]

AS of now, if BUF was to win last two, PIT win last two, and KC lose last two....

 

they  are tied at 13-3

tied with conf record of 10-2

strrgth of victory is the tie breaker.

 

Strength of victory is equivalent to number of opponents wins.  As of right now my calculations have them all tied at 84 based on buf and pit beating final 2 and kc losing to final 2.

 

next week buffalo roots for

 

jets beat cle

miami beat raiders

SF beats az

pitt wins

chargers over broncos

 

 

 

 

in week 17 since it’s all divisional games it’s hard to gain ground that week.

 

BUF sweeper both NE and jets so there is a fixed 2 that theirs would increase no matter the results.

thus week giants play baltimore. Pittsburgh beat both. There is a small advantage if baltimore wins.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ndirish1978]

Mahomes has lost a total of 9 games as a starter and you're expecting him to lose 2 in a row. You can pretty much close this thread. 

[JMF2006]

2 hours ago, BillsFanThru-N-Thru said:

While KC has the number 1 seed virtually locked, there is one scenario where the Bills can still get the number seed which involves the Bills, KC and Pitt all finishing 13-3.  It would have to happen as follows:

 

1.)  Bills would need these NFC South to lose in week 17 
        New Orleans vs Minnesota, Tampa Bay vs Detroit, Carolina vs Washington
2.)  Tennessee Titans to beat the Green Bay Packers and Houston Texans
3.)  Baltimore Ravens lose both of their remaining games
4.)  Indianapolis Colts lose Pittsburg
5.)  Arizona Cardinals lose both of their remaining two games
6.)  Atlanta Falcons beat the KC Chiefs and Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7.)  Miami Dolphins beating the Las Vegas Raiders
8.)  Cincinnati Bengals beating Houston Texans
9.)  NY Jets beating the Cleveland Browns
10.) LA Chargers beating the Denver Broncos and KC Chiefs

 

Have you put in a parlay bet with a Vegas book yet?....if this all happens a $100.00 bet could make you very wealthy  

[DaggersEOD]

9 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

Mahomes has lost a total of 9 games as a starter and you're expecting him to lose 2 in a row. You can pretty much close this thread. 

I don’t know the OP but I happen to know that he does not expect him to lose 2 in a row. 

[vincec]

2 hours ago, BillsFanThru-N-Thru said:

While KC has the number 1 seed virtually locked, there is one scenario where the Bills can still get the number seed which involves the Bills, KC and Pitt all finishing 13-3.  It would have to happen as follows:

 

1.)  Bills would need these NFC South to lose in week 17 
        New Orleans vs Minnesota, Tampa Bay vs Detroit, Carolina vs Washington
2.)  Tennessee Titans to beat the Green Bay Packers and Houston Texans
3.)  Baltimore Ravens lose both of their remaining games
4.)  Indianapolis Colts lose Pittsburg
5.)  Arizona Cardinals lose both of their remaining two games
6.)  Atlanta Falcons beat the KC Chiefs and Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7.)  Miami Dolphins beating the Las Vegas Raiders
8.)  Cincinnati Bengals beating Houston Texans
9.)  NY Jets beating the Cleveland Browns
10.) LA Chargers beating the Denver Broncos and KC Chiefs

Last night the announcers projected that this had a 0.1% chance of happening. After reading this, that may be optimistic.

[BigDingus]

2 hours ago, BillsFanThru-N-Thru said:

While KC has the number 1 seed virtually locked, there is one scenario where the Bills can still get the number seed which involves the Bills, KC and Pitt all finishing 13-3.  It would have to happen as follows:

 

1.)  Bills would need these NFC South to lose in week 17 
        New Orleans vs Minnesota, Tampa Bay vs Detroit, Carolina vs Washington
2.)  Tennessee Titans to beat the Green Bay Packers and Houston Texans
3.)  Baltimore Ravens lose both of their remaining games
4.)  Indianapolis Colts lose Pittsburg
5.)  Arizona Cardinals lose both of their remaining two games
6.)  Atlanta Falcons beat the KC Chiefs and Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7.)  Miami Dolphins beating the Las Vegas Raiders
8.)  Cincinnati Bengals beating Houston Texans
9.)  NY Jets beating the Cleveland Browns
10.) LA Chargers beating the Denver Broncos and KC Chiefs

 

Oh, is that it?

[BigDingus]

I just inputted everything you said into the ESPN Playoff calculator & it still showed us as the #2 seed.

I messed around a bit more, and it finally put us at #1 if the Steelers also beat the Browns in week 17.