Channel 4 programming

[WIDE LEFT]

You wonder if our local CBS affiliate (WIVB) has any inkling as to what WNY viewers prefer to watch. I refer to of course to todays genius decision as to which NFL game to broadcast locally. Would it be Miami v Denver ? Huge implications in that game for Bills fans. How about the much hated Pats v Houston, again a game with playoff implications for Bills? No no, the choice is to broadcast that fascinating matchup of Pittsburgh v Jaguars, one of the worst mismatches of all of today’s games. The stupidity here boggles the mind.

Where is the crack channel 4 sports team? Like sports “ director” Josh Reed. No say, no input, no advice as to what game would have the most appeal in WNY. Don’t even notice that your own network chose the worst possible game, or are u that oblivious? 

 

 

[RiotAct]

They do whatever their corporate overlords tell them to do.

[TN Bills Fan]

yoursports.stream  watch whatever you want to.

 

[Mark80]

Mine says Tenn v Baltimore.  Sucks for you I guess.

[Mr. WEO]

Tons of Steelers fans in Central/Western NY.  That's why.

[McGahee]

I'm sure there's smarter people than you and I analyzing data and determining how to get the most eyes on the screen. Our proximity to Pittsburgh probably has a lot to do with it.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

40 minutes ago, WIDE LEFT said:

You wonder if our local CBS affiliate (WIVB) has any inkling as to what WNY viewers prefer to watch. I refer to of course to todays genius decision as to which NFL game to broadcast locally. Would it be Miami v Denver ? Huge implications in that game for Bills fans. How about the much hated Pats v Houston, again a game with playoff implications for Bills? No no, the choice is to broadcast that fascinating matchup of Pittsburgh v Jaguars, one of the worst mismatches of all of today’s games. The stupidity here boggles the mind.

Where is the crack channel 4 sports team? Like sports “ director” Josh Reed. No say, no input, no advice as to what game would have the most appeal in WNY. Don’t even notice that your own network chose the worst possible game, or are u that oblivious?

 

I could be incorrect, but I feel pretty confident the local affiliates just broadcast whatever game they're directed to broadcast.  Therefore putting Josh Reed or the local WIVB staff on "blast" is probably incorrect.

 

I don't think they have much choice in the matter - the network generates a broadcast map and It Is What It Is.

[Mr. WEO]

3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I could be incorrect, but I feel pretty confident the local affiliates just broadcast whatever game they're directed to broadcast.  Therefore putting Josh Reed or the local WIVB staff on "blast" is probably incorrect.

 

I don't think they have much choice in the matter - the network generates a broadcast map and It Is What It Is.

 

 

As far as accuracy goes, this thread is wide right...

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

As far as accuracy goes, this thread is wide right...

 

Too Soon

[Beerball]

14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

As far as accuracy goes, this thread is wide right...

I believe I remember our Albany contingent talking about the local station having a choice (jets/Bills).  I'm not sure whether that applies across the board, but at least "border" affiliates do seem to have a choice.

 

 

Edit, found this.  Locals to have the ability to request changes.  In today's case they were either to lazy to do so, or their request was denied by the network.

 

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FOX assigns us the other games, based on regional interest or national importance. This means we usually get NFC North games. We can request a change, but the network doesn't have to grant it. 

https://fox11online.com/sports/packers-and-nfl/an-explanation-of-the-guidelines-for-nfl-tv-coverage

Edited November 22, 2020 by Beerball

[Albany,n.y.]

3 minutes ago, Beerball said:

I believe I remember our Albany contingent talking about the local station having a choice (jets/Bills).  I'm not sure whether that applies across the board, but at least "border" affiliates do seem to have a choice.

This week's choice in Albany is unbelievable.  The teams that get support in Albany, in order are Giants, Jets, Bills & Patriots.

So you'd think with 2 of the top 4, we'd either get the Patriots-Houston game at 1, or as in past years when they weren't 0 for, we'd definitely get the Jets at 4.  No-we're also getting Pittsburgh/Jacksonville at 1 with no Jets game at 4. 

The good news is it looks like our local CBS station has abandoned the Jets and we'll get the Bills/Chargers game next week & it bodes well for the final vs the Dolphins.  It looks like all the rest of the games will be broadcast across the nation.    

[SCBills]

Same down south here in Georgia & South Carolina.  
 

So many good AFC 1 pm games and we get Pitt vs Jax on CBS. 
 

I typically watch Sunday Ticket together with the fam in Atlanta but am stuck out of town today so I feel all y’alls pain.  

[YoloinOhio]

Hey great job 

 

Edited November 22, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[gobills1212]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Hey great job 

 

Ouch.... well, thats a wrap as they say in the bizz!

[RiotAct]

OH SNAP

[McGahee]

OP got pwned. LAMO!

[Helpmenow]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

Tons of Steelers fans in Central/Western NY.  That's why.

Near the border Jamestown area?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Be glad you didn't get a three hour block of infomercials.

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And it's refreshing to see proven why some are on the practice squad. 😁

Edited November 22, 2020 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[BarleyNY]

Broadcast map

CBS only has one game this week.  It is showing Tennessee at Baltimore according to this map, not Steelers v Jags.  It’s the only game between two likely playoff teams. I get why the Miami game at 4 would be better for us since Miami is our only threat for the division, but it’s not like they are playing a playoff contender.  We are getting what is likely to be a more competitive game.  I would prefer the Miami game, but I get why they chose what they did. 

 

 

1 hour ago, WIDE LEFT said:

You wonder if our local CBS affiliate (WIVB) has any inkling as to what WNY viewers prefer to watch. I refer to of course to todays genius decision as to which NFL game to broadcast locally. Would it be Miami v Denver ? Huge implications in that game for Bills fans. How about the much hated Pats v Houston, again a game with playoff implications for Bills? No no, the choice is to broadcast that fascinating matchup of Pittsburgh v Jaguars, one of the worst mismatches of all of today’s games. The stupidity here boggles the mind.

Where is the crack channel 4 sports team? Like sports “ director” Josh Reed. No say, no input, no advice as to what game would have the most appeal in WNY. Don’t even notice that your own network chose the worst possible game, or are u that oblivious? 

 

 

 

[BillsPride12]

I'm in WNY and mine is saying NE-Houston for the 1pm game 

1 minute ago, BillsPride12 said:

I'm in WNY and mine is saying NE-Houston for the 1pm game 

Nevermind.  When I checked last night that's what it was showing but I just checked again and now it is showing Baltimore-Tenn which should at least be a decent game

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I could be incorrect, but I feel pretty confident the local affiliates just broadcast whatever game they're directed to broadcast.  Therefore putting Josh Reed or the local WIVB staff on "blast" is probably incorrect.

 

I don't think they have much choice in the matter - the network generates a broadcast map and It Is What It Is.

 

I beleive you're half right, CBS/Fox assign games to affiliates, however pretty sure the local station can ask for a different one.  If you go to 506 Sports you'll often see the game for a specific city changes in the "update" section.  I can recall a number of years back one of the local stations in Rochester use to allow people to vote on which early game they wanted on whichever network was not televising Bills game.  These days Wyoming will often televise Bills games because of Allen, but the surrounding area gets a different game.

[JoPoy88]

2 hours ago, WIDE LEFT said:

You wonder if our local CBS affiliate (WIVB) has any inkling as to what WNY viewers prefer to watch. I refer to of course to todays genius decision as to which NFL game to broadcast locally. Would it be Miami v Denver ? Huge implications in that game for Bills fans. How about the much hated Pats v Houston, again a game with playoff implications for Bills? No no, the choice is to broadcast that fascinating matchup of Pittsburgh v Jaguars, one of the worst mismatches of all of today’s games. The stupidity here boggles the mind.

Where is the crack channel 4 sports team? Like sports “ director” Josh Reed. No say, no input, no advice as to what game would have the most appeal in WNY. Don’t even notice that your own network chose the worst possible game, or are u that oblivious? 

 

 

So wrong and so cringe-inducing. Thanks, I needed a laugh during a boring bye week.

 

also, you really can’t think of a single reason why Pittsburgh would be the chosen broadcast? Not one?

[Solomon Grundy]

I have an over the air antenna on my set and it shows nationally Titans v Ravens, but locally shows Pats v Texans. Luckily I have Sunday Ticket

[stosh64]

I'm in Lewiston, have OTA antenna and it is Tenn @ Bal on WIVB.

[YoloinOhio]

Guess I’m getting my money’s worth with the nfl ticket. I have all seven games showing on Game Mix 2. 

[SCBills]

18 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

So wrong and so cringe-inducing. Thanks, I needed a laugh during a boring bye week.

 

also, you really can’t think of a single reason why Pittsburgh would be the chosen broadcast? Not one?

Clearly the Steelers are a national brand, but broadcasting the worst game on paper at 1 pm, to a bunch of areas that don’t care about it, isn’t ideal for most fans.  
 

It is what it is though.  That’s what Sunday Ticket is for. 

[JoPoy88]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Clearly the Steelers are a national brand, but broadcasting the worst game on paper at 1 pm, to a bunch of areas that don’t care about it, isn’t ideal for most fans.  
 

It is what it is though.  That’s what Sunday Ticket is for. 

i live in buffalo and CBS is showing tenn/bal. but even if the Pitt game was the choice I would definitely watch. In addition to reason you gave, are they not an upcoming Bills opponent? Seems as valid reason as any for Bills fans to be interested.

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

i live in buffalo and CBS is showing tenn/bal. but even if the Pitt game was the choice I would definitely watch. In addition to reason you gave, are they not an upcoming Bills opponent? Seems as valid reason as any for Bills fans to be interested.

Literally could not care less about this game.  I have zero desire to watch Pittsburgh play the second worst team in the NFL.  
 

 

Edited November 22, 2020 by SCBills

[stosh64]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Literally could not care less about this game.  I have zero desire to watch Pittsburgh play the second worst team in the NFL.  
 

 

Good thing WIVB isn't showing that game then.

What a thread, smh.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, stosh64 said:

Good thing WIVB isn't showing that game then.

What a thread, smh.

I don’t live in Buffalo.  I typically have access to Sunday Ticket w the fam always together on Sunday’s, but am out of town and stuck with this garbage game. 

[Just Jack]

Gosh, if there was only a way to view games from other markets, without too much trouble...

 

Oh wait....

 

Remote viewing of games using Google Chrome with Geo locating and CBS All Access - The Stadium Wall - Two Bills Drive

 

 

[US Egg]

PBR at 5

 

Yeehaw !!!!!

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

I'm on my roof jockeying the antenna by hand.  One 'bang' on the wall from inside means 'keep turning', two 'bangs' means 'hold it there'.  Haven't a clue what they're watching...could be reruns of 'The Bachelor'.  I'm cold. 🥶

[Mr. WEO]

3 hours ago, Beerball said:

I believe I remember our Albany contingent talking about the local station having a choice (jets/Bills).  I'm not sure whether that applies across the board, but at least "border" affiliates do seem to have a choice.

 

 

Edit, found this.  Locals to have the ability to request changes.  In today's case they were either to lazy to do so, or their request was denied by the network.

 

https://fox11online.com/sports/packers-and-nfl/an-explanation-of-the-guidelines-for-nfl-tv-coverage

 

 

Or their request was granted.

[F.W. Cyclone]

I decided to not watch any football today.

[LB48]

7 hours ago, Mark80 said:

Mine says Tenn v Baltimore.  Sucks for you I guess.

YES - WIVB had the Baltimore vs. Tenn game.  It was a great NFL game.

[US Egg]

12 minutes ago, LB48 said:

YES - WIVB had the Baltimore vs. Tenn game.  It was a great NFL game.

.....and a great ending.

[WIDE LEFT]

For all the snarky,  “know it all” responses about how Josh Reed / Sal Cappaccio really got over on  the OP,  I would invite you to read the article in Buffalo News today, posted on TBD as well, written by News media reporter Alan P. It completely contradicts every thing Josh Reed had to say. It’s says in fact that the local affiliate has plenty of input into what games are shown locally, and their request to change games from what the network originally scheduled “is usually granted”. This of course makes perfect sense since both the local affiliate AND the network always seek to maximize ratings. Makes perfect sense to many, except two Media guys, Reed and Cappaccio, who apparently don’t have a clue how the media works. In fact Cappaccio tweeted out that’s it’s the individual fan who should reach out and complain to the network. Apparently he is unaware that’s the job of a local affiliate, and in fact local affiliates do this all the time. Except apparently the Buffalo affiliate, since their sports “director” Reed is clueless 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

20 minutes ago, WIDE LEFT said:

For all the snarky,  “know it all” responses about how Josh Reed / Sal Cappaccio really got over on  the OP,  I would invite you to read the article in Buffalo News today, posted on TBD as well, written by News media reporter Alan P. It completely contradicts every thing Josh Reed had to say. It’s says in fact that the local affiliate has plenty of input into what games are shown locally, and their request to change games from what the network originally scheduled “is usually granted”. This of course makes perfect sense since both the local affiliate AND the network always seek to maximize ratings. Makes perfect sense to many, except two Media guys, Reed and Cappaccio, who apparently don’t have a clue how the media works. In fact Cappaccio tweeted out that’s it’s the individual fan who should reach out and complain to the network. Apparently he is unaware that’s the job of a local affiliate, and in fact local affiliates do this all the time. Except apparently the Buffalo affiliate, since their sports “director” Reed is clueless 

And now you know...the rest of the story.

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Paul Harvey..........GOOD DAY!

[Punching Bag]

The only way to get message to corporate overlords is to tell advertisers to talk to station saying that local viewing habits need to be considered.

Sales are what they are interested in.