Bleedingreennc Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 9:43 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh Wow, that really aged well. I don't think that hot take even stayed sizzling through the end of the game. I don't know too much about Pittsburgs OC Randy Fichtner You know anything about him? I dont, i know that with the amount of picks that we have we will be able to add some talent in the draft, give me a FA WR and we will turn it around. On 11/18/2020 at 7:54 PM, Putin said: If Arizona could get a 2nd for Rosen I think the Jets should get at least that for Sam , I still think he has potential to be a good starting QB I hope so, we can add to the draft picks we already have, only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Bleedingreennc said: I dont, i know that with the amount of picks that we have we will be able to add some talent in the draft, give me a FA WR and we will turn it around. I don't want to "Debbie" on ya, but that kind of depends upon the quality of talent assessment of the GM making the picks? 😈 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't want to "Debbie" on ya, but that kind of depends upon the quality of talent assessment of the GM making the picks? 😈 Very true. Douglas has shown he can hit on some picks, Mims, Becton, Mann. Fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Many will argue that the Jets did not surround Darnold with enough of supporting cast. But the Bills surrounded Josh with mountains of hot garbage his rookie year and he still succeeded. Nate peterman was the veteran quarterback presence and Kelvin Benjamin was your number 1. I mean, come on. The great ones will will find a way to rise above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Jets offense fully healthy for what seems like the first time all year. On paper it's actually better than the dolphins. If Tua starts I think the jets win this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenReceipts Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/23/2020 at 3:37 PM, Charles Romes said: Many will argue that the Jets did not surround Darnold with enough of supporting cast. But the Bills surrounded Josh with mountains of hot garbage his rookie year and he still succeeded. Nate peterman was the veteran quarterback presence and Kelvin Benjamin was your number 1. I mean, come on. The great ones will will find a way to rise above. Darnold just sucks. Anything arguing otherwise can immediately be dismissed. He sucks. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Process said: Jets offense fully healthy for what seems like the first time all year. On paper it's actually better than the dolphins. If Tua starts I think the jets win this game That would be perfect for the bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Process said: Jets offense fully healthy for what seems like the first time all year. On paper it's actually better than the dolphins. If Tua starts I think the jets win this game Don’t often root for the jets, but I would be all for that, as I believe any bills fan would be, 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/19/2020 at 9:22 AM, Greg S said: I wouldn't be to sure about that. Ben is nearing the end and if they win it all I could definitely see him retiring. Nothing left to prove. As I mentioned Pitt won't be picking at the top of the draft anytime soon so if they feel Darnold can be their QB of the future for the next 12-15 years then I could see them making a trade to acquiring him. Would backing up a future HOF for a year or so be a bad thing for Darnold? It can't happen if the team isn't 100% sold on Darnold as their QB of the future. He either gets his 5th year option picked up for around $20-25 million, or if he doesn't he's a free agent after next season. So any team that picks him up is going to have a one year rental unless they are fully committed to Darnold & give him a multi-year contact after they trade for him. The rookie contract & 5th year option make a Darnold trade difficult for the team acquiring him. Since Tyrod was traded for a 3rd to be a 1 year rental then maybe Darnold could go for a low 2nd or a 3rd, but Cleveland was pretty dumb making the Taylor trade & the Jets would have to find a poorly managed team as their trade partner & one of the worst managed teams is eliminated since they can't trade him to themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 8:05 AM, SCBills said: I think Sam is a tough sell if i'm needing a QB. He's regressed so, so badly and I know it can be explained away by "the Jets", but you're trading (perhaps) a 2nd round pick for a guy that only has 1 year left on his deal before the option year kicks in. I don’t think he’s necessarily regressed. He’s just never ascended. He’s the same as he was at USC: well-liked, mobile, a gamer, makes some really high-end throws, but is a turnover machine. In college a player can be an All-American with those traits. The talent inequities allow those turnovers to have less dire results at times. Not in the NFL though. And there’s no question the organization in New Jersey has done him a disservice. But if he eventually winds up elsewhere I would bet we see the same guy, albeit with a bit more success, depending on the coaching/talent. I don’t think he’ll ever be a lead dog type QB -meaning he’s carrying his team. Maybe he’ll be a Tannehill type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I'll be riding the Darnold train this week. J-E-T-S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) Hmmm. Might have to take the ML on the Dols this week... Edit: On second thought, no way can I root for the Dols. Edited November 27, 2020 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Don Otreply said: Don’t often root for the jets, but I would be all for that, as I believe any bills fan would be, 👍 I see no downside to the jets winning this week or any week the rest of the season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Is this Gase whispering a prayer not to get fired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Just now, Warcodered said: Is this Gase whispering a prayer not to get fired? Let’s hope it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: I could def see this.... Spent yesterday with the family full of Jets fans.... they are afraid the Jets win Sunday. Against the team that skunked them 5 weeks ago? I think they're safe That said, of course I'd be delighted for that outcome. Go Jets! Go Darnold! J-E-T-S Jets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Last time I checked Sam was pretty good at losing games. Flacco is some golden ticket to Lawrence? They've been just as close (or not) the last couple games as they were with Sam. Maybe Adam Gase is just...a clueless guy and a bad coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Golden*Wheels said: Last time I checked Sam was pretty good at losing games. Flacco is some golden ticket to Lawrence? They've been just as close (or not) the last couple games as they were with Sam. Maybe Adam Gase is just...a clueless guy and a bad coach. They will have their starting WR group for the first time with Darnold, and that group has been pretty good, so that’s where the optimism lies that they could shank the tank. Plus Flacco is a statue so defenses don’t need to worry about him running whereas Darnold has wheels Edited November 27, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Golden*Wheels said: Last time I checked Sam was pretty good at losing games. Flacco is some golden ticket to Lawrence? They've been just as close (or not) the last couple games as they were with Sam. Maybe Adam Gase is just...a clueless guy and a bad coach. They're preparing for Lawrence to stay in school if they have the 1st overall, necessitating them sticking with/developing Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 20 hours ago, Doc said: They're preparing for Lawrence to stay in school if they have the 1st overall, necessitating them sticking with/developing Darnold. They also need to pump his trade value up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 22 hours ago, Golden*Wheels said: Last time I checked Sam was pretty good at losing games. Flacco is some golden ticket to Lawrence? They've been just as close (or not) the last couple games as they were with Sam. Maybe Adam Gase is just...a clueless guy and a bad coach. What??? Does this look like a clueless guy?? Must be that Joe & Sam are just bad QB's, lol. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) The best thing for Darnold is to never play another game for the Jets and get a fresh start with a better team next year. Edited November 28, 2020 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: The best thing for Darnold is to never play another game for the Jets and get a fresh start with a better team next year. Maybe become Tannehill 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Bob in STL said: The best thing for Darnold is to never play another game for the Jets and get a fresh start with a better team next year. The best thing for Darnold is to come back strong & win some games so the Jets can't draft a QB. I hope he starts winning this Sunday. Then he needs a new coach. Woody Johnson is coming back in January and he's going to kick his brother's @ss for messing up the Jets. I wouldn't be shocked if the GM gets fired in spite of his long term contract. No contract should ever stand in the way of firing a bad hire. Much like the Bills, the coach chose the GM and if Gase goes, as he certainly will, why keep his preferred GM? 1 hour ago, Doc said: Maybe become Tannehill 2.0. While I don't believe a coach can permanently ruin a QB, he can sure make a decent QB look bad. Gase has now stymied the careers of 2 top 10 QB picks. Tannehill is evidence that Gase is a clueless boob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I’m not gonna lie I can see him coming here as a back up seeing that he’s entered David Carr bust territory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 20 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I’m not gonna lie I can see him coming here as a back up seeing that he’s entered David Carr bust territory I certainly appreciate your honesty but I don’t think it will happen. He may be heading into “bust” territory but he’s still young enough to possibly turn it around. It would be more likely to see him in New England than Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: I certainly appreciate your honesty but I don’t think it will happen. He may be heading into “bust” territory but he’s still young enough to possibly turn it around. It would be more likely to see him in New England than Buffalo Whatever team he goes to he will have to either start off as a back up or will have to compete for the starting role. I’m sorry but 3 tds and 8-9 INTS is beyond horrible. I don’t know any team that will take a chance on him as a starter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Whatever team he goes to he will have to either start off as a back up or will have to compete for the starting role. I’m sorry but 3 tds and 8-9 INTS is beyond horrible. I don’t know any team that will take a chance on him as a starter. He’s the player I thought he would be when I watched him in his sophomore season at USC, after his much-hyped rookie year. I’m not even sure I’d want him as a back up on the Bills, not that I think he would sign here what with Josh entrenched as the starter for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/28/2020 at 9:43 AM, Doc said: Maybe become Tannehill 2.0. Possible. But he's still a turnover machine and he has been one since USC. I don't know if that will change. He hasn't gotten better at all. And that's not all on the Jets. At a certain point, the off-season work he does has to translate to in-season gains. It could be he's just a middling type of NFL QB. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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