Big Turk Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) Teams have blitzed Allen 131 times, which trails only Daniel Jones of the Giants who has been blitzed 141 times. However, teams may want to reconsider their tactics considering Allen is among the best in the NFL when being blitzed, posting a QB Rating of 114.0 to go with 9 TDs, 1 INT and only 4 sacks with a completion percentage of 61.6% and a YPA of 7.3... Against Seattle he was 19 of 24 for 259 yards and 2 TDs. Last year he was not that great against the blitz, posting more pedestrian numbers: 74.9 passer rating, 9 touchdowns, 4 interceptions, a 50.3 completion percent, 5.5 yards per attempt, and 20 sacks on 185 drop backs (11 percent). Edited November 10, 2020 by matter2003 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Pressure is the key to throwing off any QB, as you saw with us and Russell Wilson this past weekend. I don't expect it to stop, I just hope that Allen continues his progression in adapting to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I wouldn't expect this to change - teams also know that Josh will hold the ball a long time and want to exploit those tendencies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 It has been Josh's weakness since the start. Get him rattled, and he starts doing crazy, dangerous things. The Seattle game was crazy, seemed like they were blitzing on every play. The nice thing is that Josh seems to be coming around. Recognizing pressure, getting rid of the ball, making defenses pay. He still tries to do too much at times, and it's what led to the 7 sacks last week, but you have to be pleased at how he has come along this year in particular with blitzes/pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 To me that means the league thinks the mental aspect of the game is where Allen is weak. Guys who know where the ball is going pre-snap and can get it there quickly and reliably are not blitzed that heavily b/c the blitz will just hurt the defending team. If that many people are doing it it means someone (on film) did it successfully and everyone else is copying the success of that plan. So it probably worked well at some point. Allen has clearly showed sings of mental progression in his game though. I think Bills fans could take it as a positive if we see the rate of opposition blitzes declining as time goes on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 When i watched Allen the 1st season or so I used to get blitzed alot 😋🍺 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 With the lack of holding calls, almost no team is able to generate enough pressure with just their front four. Combine that with quick passing game and the only way to stop NFL offenses, is to keep bring extra rushers and odd man rushes. On the strip sack by Klein, Hughes was standing up over the center and backed into coverage. Teams need to be creative with their rushes. Adams blew up the Bills a few times. Also teams are getting better at timing their rushes based off the play clock winding down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I think that'll change. Allen's getting better against the blitz and making team pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 After that Baltimore game last year this is the best possible outcome I could of asked for. Its really cool having a film junky quarterback who sees flaws and gets right to work every week on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rubes said: It has been Josh's weakness since the start. Get him rattled, and he starts doing crazy, dangerous things It's the weakness of every QB that has ever played football from a 3rd string pee-wee player to Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Johnny U, Peyton, Brees et al. The entire point of blitzing is to make QBs do crazy, dangerous things or to sack them. Edited November 10, 2020 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: I think that'll change. Allen's getting better against the blitz and making team pay. Getting better? He has a higher QB rating against the blitz this year than when teams don't blitz... He might be the best in the NFL, not sure where to find these stats from. Edited November 10, 2020 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, H2o said: Pressure is the key to throwing off any QB, as you saw with us and Russell Wilson this past weekend. I don't expect it to stop, I just hope that Allen continues his progression in adapting to it. Taking QBs to the ground is the key to throwing off any QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 The best part is that even if he does have to take a sack it just means he will throw an 18 yard dart rather than a 4 yard dart to pick up the first down. Not much difference in the difficulty of those throws for this special player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Getting better? He has a higher QB rating against the blitz this year than when teams don't blitz... He might be the best in the NFL, not sure where to find these stats from. Getting better for sure. The quick pass to Moss on Sunday was a thing of beauty. He still takes more sacks than he should but his reads and reactions are getting a lot quicker. The kid just keeps getting better and honestly I do not see a ceiling for him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I hope the stats reflect not just Allen but whole offense better against the blitz. Allen is not on an island alone. Needs OC to recognize this and call plays, o-line and rb to pickup rushers, wr to recognize and cut short route etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, die hard bills fan said: I hope the stats reflect not just Allen but whole offense better against the blitz. Allen is not on an island alone. Needs OC to recognize this and call plays, o-line and rb to pickup rushers, wr to recognize and cut short route etc. The OC doesn't recognize a blitz, the QB does. The OC calls a play or potentially 2 plays and then it is up to the QB to get them into the proper call based on what the D is showing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: It's the weakness of every QB that has ever played football from a 3rd string pee-wee player to Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Johnny U, Peyton, Brees et al. The entire point of blitzing is to make QBs do crazy, dangerous things or to sack them. True, it's just that it's taken Allen a bit longer to learn things like throwing the ball away, sliding on a run, or not throwing back across his body into coverage. There were still questions about this at the beginning of the season, but he's really done a great job minimizing those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 My take is this is more about Allen’s propensity to hold the ball and try to extend the play. rarely see him immediately hit the hot WR on the blitz. It’s probably the last part of his game to develop. It’s just a matter of experience, he will get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Nextmanup said: To me that means the league thinks the mental aspect of the game is where Allen is weak. Guys who know where the ball is going pre-snap and can get it there quickly and reliably are not blitzed that heavily b/c the blitz will just hurt the defending team. If that many people are doing it it means someone (on film) did it successfully and everyone else is copying the success of that plan. So it probably worked well at some point. Allen has clearly showed sings of mental progression in his game though. I think Bills fans could take it as a positive if we see the rate of opposition blitzes declining as time goes on. It also comes down to opponents and scheme. We faced Gregg Williams, who has a blitz happy scheme. We also faced the Seahawks who literally had nothing else on defense to do because they were getting gashed no matter what. In the past the recipe to stop Allen is to NOT blitz but to contain him in the pocket and rally to him when he decides to run. Force him to stay in the pocket and be a QB. That recipe has clearly changed. Teams are now afraid of keeping him in the pocket because he CAN be a QB and make throws. So they blitz him and/or drop into coverage (NE routinely had 7 DB's on the field to try to take away the pass). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Makes sense the Ravens last season and Chiefs this season have had some success against Josh using the blitz. So it is not shocking other teams have decided to blitz more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Makes sense the Ravens last season and Chiefs this season have had some success against Josh using the blitz. So it is not shocking other teams have decided to blitz more. Except that was Then, this is Now. Josh has been eating blitzes this year. Mark Gaughan article about how the Seahawks fared with their blitzing: https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/analysis-bills-josh-allen-gives-blitzing-defenses-more-to-worry-about/article_544d02f2-22af-11eb-b988-fb754440edcc.html Allen saw the second-most blitzes in a game in his career – 26 – and he chewed them up. Allen was 15 of 20 for 197 yards and two touchdowns with no interceptions and three sacks vs. Seattle pass rushes of five or more men, according to Buffalo News charting. That’s a passer rating of 138.9, his best ever vs. the blitz. For the season, Allen is completing 66% of his passes vs. the blitz for 8.5 yards per attempt, eight touchdowns, one interceptions and a passer rating of 116.2 .... Adams, the star safety acquired from the New York Jets, rushed the passer 12 times and made 1.5 sacks. But Allen still was effective when Adams rushed, completing 7 of 9 for 96 yards on those plays. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Josh was with Wilson for a few seconds after the game and although I knew he was ‘bigger’, I was surprised at the differential in height and size. He looked like a giant and I think those extra inches will be a big help in identifying and handling the blitz packages. This guy is just getting going. It can all happen this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Makes sense the Ravens last season and Chiefs this season have had some success against Josh using the blitz. So it is not shocking other teams have decided to blitz more. seems weird though when the titans had a lot more success basically playing coverage against him instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: seems weird though when the titans had a lot more success basically playing coverage against him instead. The Jets (granted not a defensive juggernaut) tried to do that and they got picked apart. Granted the Bills committed some bad penalties and mistakes in the redzone which led to an insane amount of field goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 hours ago, hemma said: Josh was with Wilson for a few seconds after the game and although I knew he was ‘bigger’, I was surprised at the differential in height and size. He looked like a giant and I think those extra inches will be a big help in identifying and handling the blitz packages. This guy is just getting going. It can all happen this year. The difference is quite a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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