A Few Thoughts About the Seahawks Game, in no particular order

[Virgil]

In full transparency, I didn't see a win today.  Not because I don't have faith in the Bills, but because I believe the Seahawks are arguably the best team in the NFL.  I know there defense is statistically crap, but they have Russell Wilson, who to me is the best overall quarterback in the league.  A step further, Russ is my favorite non-Bill in the league.  His story in the NFL, his ability to make 4th quarter comebacks, and they accuracy he eventually showed today is something I believe is elite.  With that being said, I hoped we could win 1 of our next 2 games to keep pace, as NFC games are good to win, but not deal breakers.  In any case, I was very happy to be wrong and Andre Roberts proved that very quickly on the kick-off.

 

1 - Allen - I've said in previous games that you can just tell from the beginning if Josh has "it" or doesn't.  Today, he absolutely had it.  Josh was straight up phenomenal in all aspects of his game.  He showed his athleticism avoiding some (but not enough) sacks, he was accurate, he showed legs when he needed to, and he ended up being the best quarterback on the field today (and you know how I feel about Wilson).  Nothing rattled Josh today and he just kept on coming.  Even with our typical 3rd quarter lull, Allen was lights out in way that validates his start of season performance.  I don't know if his hurt shoulder, bad weather, or the adjusted scheduled, but Josh was back to MVP form today and against an elite team.  The only knock on Allen today was the sacks he took right around the 35 that affected FG range.  It didn't come back to bite us, but I feel like he's had this issues a few times. 

 

2 - Klein - One game doesn't earn you overall redemption, but no one tell AJ Klein that.  Where the hell did this game come from?  Klein was all over the field today and laying the wood on guys.  In his post game, AJ said the game plan was good.  Well, if the game plan was to absolutely terrorize the offense, then copy and past for the rest of the season.  His sack, forced fumble, and recovery on Russ was borderline criminal.  That was the kind of play that makes you look for a flag because something just had to be illegal there.  In a game where Milano was a big concern to be missed, AJ handled business in coverage and rushing the passer.  He showed great speed and I honestly think his play elevated Edmunds a bit, who's also been missing in action.  Just a great game and I hope to see more of it before the official apology tour begins.

 

3 - Big Hits - I've never embedded video's on TSW, but this game made me wish I could.  There were some hits in this game that made me audibly react.  There was one kick return in particular where I don't know how the Seahawks returner got up.  Even my boy Russ took shots today that's going to require an ice bath later.  I'm going to get to the coaching and prep later, but this is a game that will be fun to watch the replay of on defense for a while to come.  Is there an angry hits version of angry runs?  If so, I know a few plays...

 

4 - Man got the rub on, sister got the rub

They're goin' around doing the rub, the rub

Ain't it crazy, ain't it crazy

Ain't it crazy one day keep on rubbin' that thing.

 

5 - QB Pressure - I'm going to bring up both teams here as they each did a great job of getting to the QB.  There were more sellout blitzes than I've seen in a long time that were feast or famine.  We had a few that left some guys wide open, but that's the price you pay.  I love the dialed up blitzes as Russel was running for his life a lot.  Russ had his life saved a few times by the blocking back, but even that wasn't enough a lot.  Both teams showed five man lines and still sent extra guys.  Hughes continued his great season with another strip sack.  Addison chased down Wilson with surprising speed.  Kudos to Frazier for mixing up who that extra guy was as I saw a variety of DB's going after Russ.  Both QB's overall handled the pressure the best they could, but I overall think the Bills offensive line held up better, regardless of what the sack total's were.  A few of those were on Josh for not getting rid of the ball fast enough. 

 

6 - DB's - Metcalf/Lockett - I've eaten my crow a few weeks back, but I'll continue with how impressive DK looks on the field.  Dude is an absolute specimen and seems to have squashed any concerns about body control.  The deep ball over Tre was just unfair.  I was actually surprised how much single deep safety we ran and dared Russ to beat us.  Other than that, most of the receivers catches were from deep cushions and the typical McD "bend but don't break."  Lockett was surprisingly not heard from at all as it seemed our DB's did a solid job keeping the receivers out of the game.  Most of Russ's passing yards game from that broken deep ball TD and TE's downfield.  I think those were acceptable losses within our game plan.  Poyer balled out again and is unquestionably our defensive MVP and it was nice to see Tre get some vindication with the 4th quarter interception.

 

7 - Officiating - Talk about a one sided officiating crew.  I don't remember the full details, but there was a 3rd and long where they call a late hit against Russ and PI.  Both calls were bogus to me.  Then, there was an illegal shift that ended with a pass to our 3 yard line that wasn't called.  This next one could go both ways, but the offensive holding seemed to be completely ignored against the Bills.  Hughes got called on a terrible personal foul that brought the Seahawks into Bills territory.  Lastly, the Davis possible touchdown pass not even getting reviewed was rough to me, however McD didn't challenge it either.  Regardless, it felt like the Ref kept the Seahawks in it on a few drives and tried to knock us back.  Either way, nothing we couldn't overcome.

 

8 - Receivers - This truly was a game for everyone.  I don't know if it was the Seahawks D or Daboll's play calling, but guys were open all over the field for Allen.  Most of Diggs catches were with huge cushions and runs after the catch.  Brown looked healthy for the first time in weeks, and it showed on the field.  Beasley was reliable when needed, but honestly wasn't needed as much.  Davis also got in the action with some nice grabs.  Daboll also called up two perfectly timed screens.  This is the type of game film that should keep upcoming opposing defensive coordinators up at night.  I honestly don't know how you can stop all these guys.  Moreso, if this is Daboll figuring out how to take advantage of the short yardage game, look out, because you know we can handle the deeper game. 

 

9 - Frazier - Some would say that giving up 30+ points can't be a good defensive effort.  I would say this was our best defensive effort of the season.  The Bills looked like a completely different team out there today.  We didn't give up a passing TD until the broken play and then in garbage time.  We gave up a few big gainers, but also created a lot of negative plays.  Our blitzes were exotic and wonderfully disguised.  This level of adaption in scheme for our 9th game gave me more hope than anything else from this game.  We showed the ability to adapt and succeed in a new identity.  We knew the Seahawks couldn't be completely shut down, so we found the wins where we could and it was enough to put us in the drivers seat the entire game.  Just a brilliant effort.

 

10 - McD - When your team comes out flat, the coach takes the fall.  When your team comes out hot, stays hot, and puts a boot on the other teams neck throughout the entire game, the goach should also get the credit.  At 7-2, McD had his team play their most complete game tonight.  Even with Milano out, and the decision to bench Phillips again, McD pulled all the right levers today.  We took down one of the best teams in the league and never looked back once we took the lead.  For those who want to attach our wins to this point, there's nothing you can say to dimish this accomplishment.  McD had them ready and I think all of us are a little more ready for the rest of this season.

 

Go Bills!

Edited November 9, 2020 by Virgil

[Southern Bills Fan]

Good write up. In regards to number 2, it seems like Klein is much more comfortable attacking the line of scrimmage than dropping back into coverage. 

[Buffalo Junction]

8 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

2 - Klein - One game doesn't earn you overall redemption, but no one tell AJ Klein that.  Where the hell did this game come from?  Klein was all over the field today and laying the wood on guys.  In his post game, AJ said the game plan was good.  Well, if the game plan was to absolutely terrorize the offense, then copy and past for the rest of the season.  His sack, forced fumble, and recovery on Russ was borderline criminal.  That was the kind of play that makes you look for a flag because something just had to be illegal there.  In a game where Milano was a big concern to be missed, AJ handled business in coverage and rushing the passer.  He showed great speed and I honestly think his play elevated Edmunds a bit, who's also been missing in action.  Just a great game and I hope to see more of it before the official apology tour begins.

I think McD and Frazier figured out how to utilize Klein in a way that kept him from being exposed. It seemed to me that they did their best to have him playing downhill or in the flat for the most part so his lack of athleticism couldn’t be exploited like it has in previous weeks. Honestly, they probably caught the Seahawks by surprise there. Hats off to the coaching staff because they caught Carroll and company with their pants down. 

[Virgil]

2 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said:

Good write up. In regards to number 2, it seems like Klein is much more comfortable attacking the line of scrimmage than dropping back into coverage. 

 

100% agreed.  Lorax liked lining up with his hands on the ground.  AJ just wants to run straight in.  Once he got his confidence, it looked to translate to the rest of his game

[IronyAbounds]

Overall a great team effort, and I'd have to give the game ball to Daboll. I thought the play calling was outstanding. Given how bad Seattle is against the pass he didn't try to establish the run. Just superb.

[JoPoy88]

Anyone that “didn’t see a possible win today” hasn’t been paying much attention sorry @Virgil the defense for the hawks is historically bad. If you as a ***expert*** didn’t highlight this game six weeks ago as a steal you’re obviously not paying attention. Where’s bill?

[Big Turk]

The Davis play wasn't reviewed because it wasn't ruled a TD on the field...McD would have had to challenge it...

 

Also I don't know if they really benched Phillips, I think they just made a decision to go with guys who gave them a better chance rushing the passer because Seattle was down to their 3rd string RB

[1st Ammendment NoMas]

Great job. Agreed on all points. It was a joy to watch this game and for once I had confidence we weren't going to screw this up. (well accept for a few series in the 3rd quarter when I got Rams flashbacks and Josh was getting sacked)

[Virgil]

2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

Anyone that “didn’t see a possible win today” hasn’t been paying much attention sorry @Virgil the defense for the hawks is historically bad. If you as a ***expert*** didn’t highlight this game six weeks ago as a steal you’re obviously not paying attention. Where’s bill?

 

I never said we couldn't win, I'm saying I didn't think we would.   Again, the Seahawks are on of the best teams in the league and can score a crapton of points.  Our offense has not clicked in 3 weeks.  If you can't understand how that might pose a problem, I got nothing for you.  If we played how we did the past 3 weeks, we don't win this game.

 

Fortunately, we brought out A game on both sides of the ball

3 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

The Davis play wasn't reviewed because it wasn't ruled a TD on the field...McD would have had to challenge it...

 

Also I don't know if they really benched Phillips, I think they just made a decision to go with guys who gave them a better chance rushing the passer because Seattle was down to their 3rd string RB

 

You might be right about Phillips.  I thought he had a good game last week, so I still found it a little surprising.  But it does seem that McD is taking his defensive line rotation to the next level this season.

[Philo]

15 minutes ago, Virgil said:

3 - Big Hits - I've never embedded video's on TSW, but this game made me wish I could.  There were some hits in this game that made me audibly react.  There was one kick return in particular where I don't know how the Seahawks returner got up.  Even my boy Russ took shots today that's going to require an ice bath later.  I'm going to get to the coaching and prep later, but this is a game that will be fun to watch the replay of on defense for a while to come.  Is there an angry hits version of angry runs?  If so, I know a few plays...

 

7 - Officiating - Talk about a one sided officiating crew.  I don't remember the full details, but there was a 3rd and long where they call a late hit against Russ and PI.  Both calls were bogus to me.  Then, there was an illegal shift that ended with a pass to our 3 yard line that wasn't called.  This next one could go both ways, but the offensive holding seemed to be completely ignored against the Bills.  Hughes got called on a terrible personal foul that brought the Seahawks into Bills territory.  Lastly, the Davis possible touchdown pass not even getting reviewed was rough to me, however McD didn't challenge it either.  Regardless, it felt like the Ref kept the Seahawks in it on a few drives and tried to knock us back.  Either way, nothing we couldn't overcome.

 

3 - That was Bam Johnson absolutely destroying the Seattle return man. That was a vicious hit and I loved it. 

 

7 - I really hate blaming refs for things going poorly, but it definitely felt like there was a stretch there with a few ticky tack calls that kept Seattle afloat in the second half. At one point I  remember seeing a graphic saying something like 6 fouls on the Bills for 65 yards and 1 foul on the Seahawks for 2 yards. A couple of those calls felt a bit suspect. Fortunately, the Bills were too damn good today for it to matter in the end. 

 

[JoPoy88]

4 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

I never said we couldn't win, I'm saying I didn't think we would.   Again, the Seahawks are on of the best teams in the league and can score a crapton of points.  Our offense has not clicked in 3 weeks.  If you can't understand how that might pose a problem, I got nothing for you.  If we played how we did the past 3 weeks, we don't win this game.

 

Fortunately, we brought out A game on both sides of the ball

 

You might be right about Phillips.  I thought he had a good game last week, so I still found it a little surprising.  But it does seem that McD is taking his defensive line rotation to the next level this season.

they’re not one of the best “teams” in the league though. Their defense is one of the worst in history. They have an mvp qb dragging them forward and a freak WR to help him out. A complete “team” they are not and never were this season. You smoked the espn bs. The bills always had a very lively chance to take this game, especially at home

[Ya Digg?]

I thought both roughing the passer penalties were definitely bogus-I’m not sure what else Oliver or Hughes could do! I actually thought both Oliver and Edmunds had good games today. Oliver won’t show up in the stats but he seemed to be all over that pocket all game long. Edmunds was finally making plays in the backfield...it was nice to see what he can do again when the defensive line does what they are supposed to do

[Orlando Tim]

20 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said:

Good write up. In regards to number 2, it seems like Klein is much more comfortable attacking the line of scrimmage than dropping back into coverage. 

This was known when we brought him in, surprised they kept trying to force his square peg into a round hole style.

[Fixxxer]

Josh was in the zone in the first half, if I'm not mistaken, he had already hit 6 different receivers in the 1st QTR alone. 

 

Glad Klein had the game he had, probably someone forwarded him the trade him for a pretzel thread we had here last week.

 

Taron Johnson thought Wilson was stopped and lost David Moore for a TD. The Seahawks and Wilson are relentless, you can't sleep on them. 

 

Yappin' Adams is a great blitzer and very good against the run, but he's clueless in coverage. He kept one drive alive for us when he tripped Beasley and was badly turned by Stefon Diggs. He reminds me of Roy Williams, former Dallas safety, good hitter but very overrated. 

 

Did Josh audibled on that Brown quick screen pass? A shame Smoke didn't score on that play. 

[klos63]

16 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

The Davis play wasn't reviewed because it wasn't ruled a TD on the field...McD would have had to challenge it...

 

Also I don't know if they really benched Phillips, I think they just made a decision to go with guys who gave them a better chance rushing the passer because Seattle was down to their 3rd string RB

Semantics, if Phillips was good enough, he'd be playing. He was a starter at the beginning of the season, he's not earning his roster spot.

[JoPoy88]

11 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

I never said we couldn't win, I'm saying I didn't think we would.   Again, the Seahawks are on of the best teams in the league and can score a crapton of points.  Our offense has not clicked in 3 weeks.  If you can't understand how that might pose a problem, I got nothing for you.  If we played how we did the past 3 weeks, we don't win this game.

 

No, you really don’t. You’re horrible at this compared to Bill and Shaw. 

[Kwai San]

Good writeup Virgil....The refs were in homer mode for sure.

 

For once the Bills beat both teams on the field.  Kudos to them.

 

Arizona gotta be shaking in their cleats right now!

 

Go BILLS!!!

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, klos63 said:

Semantics, if Phillips was good enough, he'd be playing. He was a starter at the beginning of the season, he's not earning his roster spot.

 

Not really. He is a run defender. Bills wanted to get after Wilson not make sure they could defend the run better. 

[Kwai San]

10 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

No, you really don’t. You’re horrible at this compared to Bill and Shaw. 

Wow dude....lighten up. You think you can do better have at it.....otherwise move along and I doubt I'm the only one thinking that.....

Edited November 9, 2020 by Kwai San

[Virgil]

10 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

No, you really don’t. You’re horrible at this compared to Bill and Shaw. 

 

To each their own.  One less Christmas card to write.  Interesting where the negativity and need to attack comes from.  Maybe call the old man, get some hugs?  Good luck to you.

7 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

Not really. He is a run defender. Bills wanted to get after Wilson not make sure they could defend the run better. 

 

That's a good point.  With the Seahawks not showing any form of rushing attack and their top 2 guys down, Bills most likely made the decision to go with pure speed guys

Edited November 9, 2020 by Virgil

[Tenhigh]

7 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

No, you really don’t. You’re horrible at this compared to Bill and Shaw. 

Stop being an @$$. Bills won against a very good team, just enjoy it

[thewookie1]

7 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

No, you really don’t. You’re horrible at this compared to Bill and Shaw. 

 

You really need to step off Mr. Gnome. Last I checked Virgil isn't holding a gun to your head and demanding you read his opinions. He isn't perfect but he gives us a great overall summary of the game each and every week and that should be appreciated and not thrown to the wolves.

[JoPoy88]

2 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

 

You really need to step off Mr. Gnome. Last I checked Virgil isn't holding a gun to your head and demanding you read his opinions. He isn't perfect but he gives us a great overall summary of the game each and every week and that should be appreciated and not thrown to the wolves.

That’s your opinion. I shant step off. Virg puts this out there every week and it’s not an automatic love fest just because he puts more than 2 paragraphs together. 

Edited November 9, 2020 by JoPoy88

[klos63]

8 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

Not really. He is a run defender. Bills wanted to get after Wilson not make sure they could defend the run better. 

and how well has our run defense played with him in the game? This isn't the first game he's been benched. He has limited skill, that's why he doesn't play much. He's been terrible against the run.

[HappyDays]

This was the first game plan I've ever seen from McDermott where he conceded a shootout. I think he learned from the mistakes of the Chiefs game. When you go against an offensive juggernaut you can't play soft zone and let them bleed time. One way or another the Seahawks are going to put points on the scoreboard. That means your offense needs to play with a touchdown or bust mindset on every drive and your defense needs to be aggressive. I've never seen McDermott call so many all out blitzes. Basically just letting every play be a big pass gain or a sack/turnover. The Klein strip sack was just a perfect defensive play call, Klein didn't have to be exceptional on that play. I can't tell if this is a whole change in our philosophy or if it was just a thing we did for the Seahawks specifically. Time will tell.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

I'm not saying this in any way as a knock on Allen.

 

I thought the Bills receivers were more wide open all game than Seattle's WR were, meaning it took more perfect throws from Wilson to get the completions.  Not too many QB's in the league can make that many perfect throws repeatedly throughout a game.  Without all those perfect throws, it may have been a blow out.  The Bills WR seemed to always be open as was the case on the first four weeks of the season too.   Maybe much of that is a credit to Daboll.

[klos63]

3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

I'm not saying this in any way as a knock on Allen.

 

I thought the Bills receivers were more wide open all game than Seattle's WR were, meaning it took more perfect throws from Wilson to get the completions.  Not too many QB's in the league can make that many perfect throws repeatedly throughout a game.  Without all those perfect throws, it may have been a blow out.  The Bills WR seemed to always be open as was the case on the first four weeks of the season too.   Maybe much of that is a credit to Daboll.

A lot of credit should go to our Oline, played very well pass blocking with the defense knowing we passed on almost every down til the 4th. Get Feliciano, Morse and Ford all playing healthy and we'll have an excellent line. Feliciano adds so much to the line.

[Virgil]

9 minutes ago, klos63 said:

and how well has our run defense played with him in the game? This isn't the first game he's been benched. He has limited skill, that's why he doesn't play much. He's been terrible against the run.

 

Didn't he grade out well against the Pats vs the run last week?  I'm too tired to check.

7 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

I'm not saying this in any way as a knock on Allen.

 

I thought the Bills receivers were more wide open all game than Seattle's WR were, meaning it took more perfect throws from Wilson to get the completions.  Not too many QB's in the league can make that many perfect throws repeatedly throughout a game.  Without all those perfect throws, it may have been a blow out.  The Bills WR seemed to always be open as was the case on the first four weeks of the season too.   Maybe much of that is a credit to Daboll.

 

Agreed 100%.  I'm curious how much of that was Daboll and gameplan and how much was crap Seattle D?

[Jerome007]

Klein was the surprise of the day ha ha. I could just picture some you guys badmouthing him and Edmunds anytime you can and then seeing them both perform like that 😝

 

Oh, I have been very disappointed with them, and voiced it in a few posts myself, but some of you pile it on and on.

 

Bass felt "safe" on the shorter kicks. I didn't have that "every kick of his is an adventure" feelings ha ha. And I'm glad they tried the 61 yards just for... kicks. He has one strong leg! Just not precise like we'd like but he's getting there, which is reassuring.

 

Best coached game of the year! From gameplan to execution. Just the missed challenge opportunity. Pay me and I'll watch the game and communicate when needed

[Orlando Tim]

My one complaint is that Daboll did not adjust well in the 3rd quarter when they changed their D. I could see the way they were lining up we needed to run some quick hitters and it took him too long to realize. The reason it bugs me so much is that I think Josh was getting sacked and no recievers had even turned around.

[JoPoy88]

36 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

To each their own.  One less Christmas card to write.  Interesting where the negativity and need to attack comes from.  Maybe call the old man, get some hugs?  Good luck to you.

 

My old man is dead and I don't come at you every week - the fact that you’re consistent and think you’re above criticism is funny. Honestly you’re a casual fan at best and barely know what you’re looking at. 🍻 

[GETTOTHE50]

McD channeled his inner Jim Johnson with the blitzes. It was awesome and I hope him and Frazier keep at it with the pressure packages.

[Big Turk]

41 minutes ago, klos63 said:

and how well has our run defense played with him in the game? This isn't the first game he's been benched. He has limited skill, that's why he doesn't play much. He's been terrible against the run.

 

His play probably has more to do with coming off an ACL injury but if that is the narrative you want to go with so be it...

[Virgil]

20 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

My old man is dead and I don't come at you every week - the fact that you’re consistent and think you’re above criticism is funny. Honestly you’re a casual fan at best and barely know what you’re looking at. 🍻 

Criticism and disagreeing is different from being derogatory or insulting.  I’m one of the first to say when I don’t know something or concede a point.  
 

Clearly, you have a lot of animosity or this is just how you are as a person.  Either way, feel free to ignore my posts or write your own recaps since mine are trash.  It should be easy for you. 
 

Either way, I’ll just ignore you as a user and never think about you again. 

Edited November 9, 2020 by Virgil

[Beach]

I look forward to your write ups each week.  i usually dont post my appreciation but after seeing some negativity i wanted you to know i enjoy your perspective.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Southern Bills Fan said:

Good write up. In regards to number 2, it seems like Klein is much more comfortable attacking the line of scrimmage than dropping back into coverage. 

 

I think you nailed it.  Klein is not comfortable doing the stuff Milano did.  Given a game plan more within his skill set he did OK with some flashes of "YEAH!"

[Da webster guy]

1 hour ago, Fixxxer said:

Josh was in the zone in the first half, if I'm not mistaken, he had already hit 6 different receivers in the 1st QTR alone. 

 

Glad Klein had the game he had, probably someone forwarded him the trade him for a pretzel thread we had here last week.

 

Taron Johnson thought Wilson was stopped and lost David Moore for a TD. The Seahawks and Wilson are relentless, you can't sleep on them. 

 

Yappin' Adams is a great blitzer and very good against the run, but he's clueless in coverage. He kept one drive alive for us when he tripped Beasley and was badly turned by Stefon Diggs. He reminds me of Roy Williams, former Dallas safety, good hitter but very overrated. 

 

Did Josh audibled on that Brown quick screen pass? A shame Smoke didn't score on that play. 

 

Yeah that penalty on Adams interfering with Bease was the most important flag of the game.   Momentum was swinging and we had 3rd and long, one score game.

 

Overall the Oline did a really good job today considering how many in and outs they had with injuries.

 

Both our running backs are doing well in pass protection too.   They oughta give Knox a lesson or two.

[Virgil]

Just now, Da webster guy said:

 

Yeah that penalty on Adams interfering with Bease was the most important flag of the game.   Momentum was swinging and we had 3rd and long, one score game.

 

Overall the Oline did a really good job today considering how many in and outs they had with injuries.

 

Both our running backs are doing well in pass protection too.   They oughta give Knox a lesson or two.

Agreed.  But I also think the refs owed us one 

[Inigo Montoya]

The defense tackled better than they have all season.  We didn't have any missed tackles that ended up going for big yardage.  Lockett and Metcalf live off of YAC.  The defense held the line on that today.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said:

Anyone that “didn’t see a possible win today” hasn’t been paying much attention sorry @Virgil the defense for the hawks is historically bad. If you as a ***expert*** didn’t highlight this game six weeks ago as a steal you’re obviously not paying attention. Where’s bill?

 

FWIW Virgil has good company.  The company of a lot of "anyones" who earn money covering football for various media.  Chris Simms and his sidekick both picked Seattle.  Chris would say he knows football.  Kurt Warner was polite, but had kind of a sarcastic laugh picking against us.  You could tell he doesn't think much of us or of Josh.  HOF says Warner knows football.  I respect both those guys, so I disagreed but they had me questioning myself.

 

The Buffalo Bills twitter posted this "expert picks" 100% for Seattle:

 

One reason I believe these folks had that view is because of our offensive fall-off after the first 4 weeks.  Having been unable to score a TD against the Jets and having chosen a very run heavy game plan against NE led to the believe that we wouldn't be able to take enough advantage of that historically bad defense to keep pace with the SeaSnakes offense,  which has been racking up points on almost everyone.

 

And C'mon Man - six weeks ago the season had just started, and anyone who pronounces a team "historically anything" after 2 games is just silly.

 

I don't think Virgil pretends to be an expert.  He's just a guy, like a lot of us around here.