Sharky7337 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) Milano has better instincts and is more of a impact player for this defense than Edmunds. If we have to resign any of the linebackers, I would argue he is a higher priority then Edmunds and if you couldn't keep both you would let Edmunds walk. Edited October 26, 2020 by Sharky7337 10 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post teef Posted October 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2020 i'll pass the information along. thank you for everything you do. 3 44 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, teef said: i'll pass the information along. thank you for everything you do. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Wins internet for the day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Baffles me that people think we should pay for a very often injured player. Sure he's a good player but unless he comes cheaper than we all expect, he wont be worth it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gambit said: Baffles me that people think we should pay for a very often injured player. Sure he's a good player but unless he comes cheaper than we all expect, he wont be worth it. Buffalo used Milano against the jets on mostly third downs. When Milano was on the field the jets gained a total of 16 yards on those plays. Change my mind. Edited October 26, 2020 by Sharky7337 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 *than* Edmunds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Nextmanup said: *than* Edmunds. On a cell Merriam Webster. Auto correct. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Edmunds is clearly injured, off season surgery would not surprise 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, HOUSE said: Edmunds is clearly injured, off season surgery would not surprise Maybe. He definitely is very tentative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, teef said: i'll pass the information along. thank you for everything you do. You're spicy today.........love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, teef said: i'll pass the information along. thank you for everything you do. .....and thanks to you Teef for being that conduit between Two and One Bills Drive. I'm sure all this info helps Sean and Brandon a lot. They couldn't do well without us! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: .....and thanks to you Teef for being that conduit between Two and One Bills Drive. I'm sure all this info helps Sean and Brandon a lot. They couldn't do well without us! Someone needs to pass ideas from here so they will know the ideas are bad and Teef is perfect representative. The only thing worse than hiring a member of media to front office is hiring a self-labeled expert fan. Now a RICH fan buying team is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, Gambit said: Baffles me that people think we should pay for a very often injured player. Sure he's a good player but unless he comes cheaper than we all expect, he wont be worth it. People here don’t think he’s injured that often. In fact they get a little upset if you mention it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Someone needs to pass ideas from here so they will know the ideas are bad and Teef is perfect representative. The only thing worse than hiring a member of media to front office is hiring a self-labeled expert fan. Now a RICH fan buying team is a different story. There seems to be a cryptic message in there somewhere. Am I right or am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Milano is a much more replaceable player. He is an above average player, but should not be overvalued because the Bills failed to find a decent back up. It should not be such a big drop off. Milano is 26; Edmunds is 22. Milano has peaked. He is an overachiever given his physical abilities. Edmunds has a long way to go. He has size and speed that cannot be taught. In 3 years from now Edmunds will be the much better player in my opinion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, Gambit said: Baffles me that people think we should pay for a very often injured player. Sure he's a good player but unless he comes cheaper than we all expect, he wont be worth it. Question for you: Football is a very physical game. What constitutes a "very often injured player"? especially at hard-hitting positions such as LB or DB? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I would like to keep Milano and Edmunds, Milano is the type of LB that you are looking for in todays pass happy NFL. Edmunds is still so young and he makes some amazing plays and some bad ones, I think in time Edmunds will start to minimize the mistakes and get stronger. I would pay Milano a 4 year 50 mil contract right now, he is that valuable to this defense. I would also ask Tre White to take a pay cut to what I wanted to pay him 4 years 60 mil. I think White needs to be given a sugar pill but is told it is the cure to Covid just for the placebo effect. I don't know why but whenever we pay a player top 3 money they turn into garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: People here don’t think he’s injured that often. In fact they get a little upset if you mention it More reading for comprehension and less opining on other poster's hypothetical emotional state would not come amiss. What is your answer to what constitutes an often injured player at Milano's position? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, teef said: i'll pass the information along. thank you for everything you do. This actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, ngbills said: Milano is a much more replaceable player. He is an above average player, but should not be overvalued because the Bills failed to find a decent back up. It should not be such a big drop off. Milano is 26; Edmunds is 22. Milano has peaked. He is an overachiever given his physical abilities. Edmunds has a long way to go. He has size and speed that cannot be taught. In 3 years from now Edmunds will be the much better player in my opinion. I'm kind of a bit puzzled. This is Milano's 4th season. This is Edmund's 3rd season. What does calendar age have to do with "football smarts" and being able to diagnose, read and react correctly and decisively? How will an extra 4 years of calendar age improve Edmunds abilities in this regard? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Question for you: Football is a very physical game. What constitutes a "very often injured player"? especially at hard-hitting positions such as LB or DB? Someone that has missed games in multiple years. Someone who has had two different injuries already this year. He's undersized for the position which is most likely why he's hurt more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 25 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: On a cell Merriam Webster. Auto correct. Do you have it set to auto incorrect? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm kind of a bit puzzled. This is Milano's 4th season. This is Edmund's 3rd season. What does calendar age have to do with "football smarts" and being able to diagnose, read and react correctly and decisively? How will an extra 4 years of calendar age improve Edmunds abilities in this regard? The calendar age aspect is more from a physical standpoint than mental standpoint. If your talking who you keep that plays into it in that you could expect a longer lifespan out of Edmunds. No guarantees. I would no give Edmunds the 2nd contract if come contract time he still makes the mistakes he is making, those need to be righted. I just see Milano as a solid good LB. You keep him if you can but dont over pay. Edmunds has the potential to be a superstar. Clearly not there yet though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, ngbills said: Milano is a much more replaceable player. He is an above average player, but should not be overvalued because the Bills failed to find a decent back up. It should not be such a big drop off. Milano is 26; Edmunds is 22. Milano has peaked. He is an overachiever given his physical abilities. Edmunds has a long way to go. He has size and speed that cannot be taught. In 3 years from now Edmunds will be the much better player in my opinion. Your judging by draft status? So far the size and speed have not replaced the heart that Milano has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: More reading for comprehension and less opining on other poster's hypothetical emotional state would not come amiss. What is your answer to what constitutes an often injured player at Milano's position? ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 46 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: Milano has better instincts and is more of a impact player for this defense than Edmunds. If we have to resign any of the linebackers, I would argue he is a higher priority then Edmunds and if you couldn't keep both you would let Edmunds walk. No doubt! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codycolo12 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Milano might be dinged up from time to time but hes played 48 out of 55 games in his career. Compare that to most linebackers in the league,newsflash they all miss games. The bills need quality backups. Last year milano and edmunds didnt miss snaps backups need to play and bills need depth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: Maybe. He definitely is very tentative. He’s been his entire time here so far 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: ok OK is not an answer to the question "What is your answer to what constitutes an often injured player at LB in a 4-3?" Who are some examples, to you, of guys playing a similar role to Milano who are less injured? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Sharky7337 said: Milano has better instincts and is more of a impact player for this defense than Edmunds. If we have to resign any of the linebackers, I would argue he is a higher priority then Edmunds and if you couldn't keep both you would let Edmunds walk. I'll pass the memo along to Beane .... thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 41 minutes ago, ngbills said: The calendar age aspect is more from a physical standpoint than mental standpoint. If your talking who you keep that plays into it in that you could expect a longer lifespan out of Edmunds. No guarantees. I would no give Edmunds the 2nd contract if come contract time he still makes the mistakes he is making, those need to be righted. Concur. He has all the physical potential in the world, but so far, he's not shown that he's growing into it. Quote I just see Milano as a solid good LB. You keep him if you can but dont over pay. Edmunds has the potential to be a superstar. Clearly not there yet though. I sort of see them as a Marcel Dareus (though for different reasons) vs. Kyle Williams situation. Dareus had all the physical potential in the world and his 1st round draft status reflected that. He could have had a HOF career and his name on the Wall of Fame. He had some good games and contributed, but somehow, he never quite contributed up to his physical potential. Kyle Williams was a 5th round draft pick who was perennially considered "undersized" for his position, but who was "oversized" with focus, dedication, and heart and became a lynchpin of the Bills defense for years. One of them had a 13 year career with 6 pro-bowl selections and a 2nd team all-pro, in many years off a bad team. One of them had a 1st team all-pro and a couple of pro-bowl years at the end of his rookie contract, then the want-to faded and he transitioned from "Mr Big Stuff" to "Mr Big Puff" Note: I'm not in any way intending to impugn Edmunds character or imply that he'll become unmotivated if we pay him, but somehow so far, he just doesn't seem to be living up to all that physical potential. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 34 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: Your judging by draft status? So far the size and speed have not replaced the heart that Milano has. Your opinion, my opinion. I would bet money that if there was an NFL draft held right now that Edmunds would still get picked higher than Milano. I just think people see him as having a much higher ceiling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: OK is not an answer to the question "What is your answer to what constitutes an often injured player at LB in a 4-3?" Who are some examples, to you, of guys playing a similar role to Milano who are less injured? We could potentially replace him in next years draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 52 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm kind of a bit puzzled. This is Milano's 4th season. This is Edmund's 3rd season. What does calendar age have to do with "football smarts" and being able to diagnose, read and react correctly and decisively? How will an extra 4 years of calendar age improve Edmunds abilities in this regard? Because Doug Whaley and Tom Modrak talked about how more reps and more OTAs and more Training Camps and you just keep getting better and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Concur. He has all the physical potential in the world, but so far, he's not shown that he's growing into it. I sort of see them as a Marcel Dareus (though for different reasons) vs. Kyle Williams situation. Dareus had all the physical potential in the world and his 1st round draft status reflected that. He could have had a HOF career and his name on the Wall of Fame. He had some good games and contributed, but somehow, he never quite contributed up to his physical potential. Kyle Williams was a 5th round draft pick who was perennially considered "undersized" for his position, but who was "oversized" with focus, dedication, and heart and became a lynchpin of the Bills defense for years. One of them had a 13 year career with 6 pro-bowl selections and a 2nd team all-pro, in many years off a bad team. One of them had a 1st team all-pro and a couple of pro-bowl years at the end of his rookie contract, then the want-to faded and he transitioned from "Mr Big Stuff" to "Mr Big Puff" Note: I'm not in any way intending to impugn Edmunds character or imply that he'll become unmotivated if we pay him, but somehow so far, he just doesn't seem to be living up to all that physical potential. I agree. And look at the contract that Dareus signed vs Williams. Not always fair, but potential is sometimes valued much more than heart. I could see the same thing happening here - Milano either walks or gets paid much less than Edmunds. But Edmunds never lives up to pay, while Milano earns it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, teef said: i'll pass the information along. thank you for everything you do. And this from the vet who insisted on drafting Tom Cousineau...😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 As of right now I don't think Beane, McDermott, Milano or his agent know at all where he will be playing next year. I like Milano and hope he stays but there is a lot that goes into that. I guessing we won't know until next March. In the meantime get healthy Matt and help this defense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Milano is a player and Edmunds has potential. Every time people talk up Edmunds it’s his potential and not his game. Gimme the guy with game! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Gambit said: Someone that has missed games in multiple years. Someone who has had two different injuries already this year. He's undersized for the position which is most likely why he's hurt more often. OK, lots of LBs miss games in multiple years. How many games, that's what I'm asking. 1 game? 3 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 When the QB is not on a rookie deal, a lot less money will be spent on other position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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