BarleyNY Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Dude! Apples and Oranges. What "some" coaches and players have done in the past only jeopardized their organization and integrity. They only cheated one team at a time, the one they were playing. What the Titans have done could very well have a negative ripple effect through out the entire NFL putting every teams season in jeopardy. Even if the season is salvaged it will be at a great inconvenience to other franchises like ours that have done nothing wrong. How does that compare to taping practices and deflating footballs? Yes, because that’s all those coaches ever did. Lol. Come on, man. There is so much crap that goes on. And thinking one coach who pulls something like Vrabel did isn’t a good coach because he put his team above the league is pretty laughable. That’s how these guys roll when money like this is on the line. 5 hours ago, MJS said: Vrabel is overrated, in my opinion. The Titans are a tough team, but they are pretty basic and predictable as far as schemes go. And Vrabel makes questionable in-game decisions. I see the NFL passing him by in a few years. The Titans are not some juggernaut. They've gone 9-7 for years and play in a weak division. They had a nice run in the playoffs last year and good for them. But they play a dangerous style of football, barely beating opponents. They do not have an explosive offense. They are a good, physical team that you have to be ready for, but that's it. Nobody should fear the Titans. You don’t think he got the most out of his team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I highly doubt White plays. He already almost opted out and now we are playing Team Covid? Hes not playing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterian Bills Fan Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, DJB said: I highly doubt White plays. He already almost opted out and now we are playing Team Covid? Hes not playing I seriously doubt that would happen. He made his choice at the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ForMacAdoo Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, DJB said: I highly doubt White plays. He already almost opted out and now we are playing Team Covid? Hes not playing I don't want TreDay playing the Covid Titans. I want him 100% for the Chiefs game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 5 hours ago, MJS said: Vrabel is overrated, in my opinion. The Titans are a tough team, but they are pretty basic and predictable as far as schemes go. And Vrabel makes questionable in-game decisions. I see the NFL passing him by in a few years. The Titans are not some juggernaut. They've gone 9-7 for years and play in a weak division. They had a nice run in the playoffs last year and good for them. But they play a dangerous style of football, barely beating opponents. They do not have an explosive offense. They are a good, physical team that you have to be ready for, but that's it. Nobody should fear the Titans. I'm not disagreeing with much that you are saying. But I would point out the the Bills don't do well with physical teams. Philadelphia, Cleveland, and Patriots pushed them around last year and outside of the Jets with the worst O-line in the league and the second half of the Raiders game, the Bills have been run on fairly easily. This year obviously the Bills offense is playing at two or three levels above last years. I honestly don't know what to make of the Bills running game. They are having so much success through the air I don't think Daboll has felt the need to consistently run the ball. Will that change if they have big leads or as the weather worsens? Will they be able to grind out first downs and wins? Will Allen start running more again? The big difference as is usually the case is the QB. Tannyhill is a game manger and Allen is a game breaker. If Allen takes care of the football, and the Bills continue the bend but don't break defense they should win a close one. If the Bills can force an early turnover or two they may be able to break it wide open. My biggest worry is a few long time consuming drives by the Titans that is not immediately matched by the Bills. That could tire the defense and make stopping Henry that much more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That said, if it's a game time decision I'd rather see Tre more healthy for the Chiefs. We'll hurt without him We really really need him for KC I'd argue the opposite. The problem with KC is they have too many weapons so they'll have success attacking wherever White isn't. Whereas the Titans only real receiving threats are AJ Brown and Jonnu Smith. If Tre can shadow AJ Brown they can shift their focus to Smith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) The problem on D will not be if Tre doesn't play. The Titans are down 2 WRs and Brown is not 100% The problem is Henry might run for 150 and we do a poor job on Jonnu.. The Cowboys lose LVE and their D completely falls apart. If we lose Milano and Tre that's going to sting....but Milano moreso in this game. Edited October 11, 2020 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: The problem on D will not be if Tre doesn't play. The Titans are down 2 WRs and Brown is not 100% The problem is Henry might run for 150 and we do a poor job on Jonnu.. The Cowboys lose LVE and their D completely falls apart. If we lose Milano and Tre that's going to sting....but Milano moreso in this game. Yeah i agree. AJ brown apparently got a practice in yesterday, but he’s nowhere near 100%. A one-legged levi wallace could probably cover him. Milano is already ruled out though, so I share some of your concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: I'm not disagreeing with much that you are saying. But I would point out the the Bills don't do well with physical teams. Philadelphia, Cleveland, and Patriots pushed them around last year and outside of the Jets with the worst O-line in the league and the second half of the Raiders game, the Bills have been run on fairly easily. This year obviously the Bills offense is playing at two or three levels above last years. I honestly don't know what to make of the Bills running game. They are having so much success through the air I don't think Daboll has felt the need to consistently run the ball. Will that change if they have big leads or as the weather worsens? Will they be able to grind out first downs and wins? Will Allen start running more again? The big difference as is usually the case is the QB. Tannyhill is a game manger and Allen is a game breaker. If Allen takes care of the football, and the Bills continue the bend but don't break defense they should win a close one. If the Bills can force an early turnover or two they may be able to break it wide open. My biggest worry is a few long time consuming drives by the Titans that is not immediately matched by the Bills. That could tire the defense and make stopping Henry that much more difficult. They did OK against the Titans last year. And the year before. Did you forget we played them the last 2 years and won both times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aross3415 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Any word on status for tomorrow?? Seems I havnt really seen any update on how bad his back injury is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Aross3415 said: Any word on status for tomorrow?? Seems I havnt really seen any update on how bad his back injury is... It’s not a back injury, he’s afraid of covid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: It’s not a back injury, he’s afraid of covid Then he would have opted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Then he would have opted out. He was threatening to then decided not to. But now that a situation is in front of him he’s having seconds thoughts I’m sure. Cause let’s be serious this whole “back injury” thing seems a bit skeptical 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: He was threatening to then decided not to. But now that a situation is in front of him he’s having seconds thoughts I’m sure. Cause let’s be serious this whole “back injury” thing seems a bit skeptical How is it skeptical? Back injuries don't happen in the NFL? He's not going to commit and then back out and fake an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: He was threatening to then decided not to. But now that a situation is in front of him he’s having seconds thoughts I’m sure. Cause let’s be serious this whole “back injury” thing seems a bit skeptical Please stop with the Tre White covid-19 conspiracy stuff. 2 hours ago, Aross3415 said: Any word on status for tomorrow?? Seems I havnt really seen any update on how bad his back injury is... I think I read somewhere that Friday's injury report would be the last one prior to the Tuesday game. Believe me, if the league doesn't force the Bills to report on injuries, they ain't gonna say a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: How is it skeptical? Back injuries don't happen in the NFL? He's not going to commit and then back out and fake an injury. Well then tell me when did he exactly injure his back? Was it in the game? Couldn’t be practice cause he didnt practice all week. Sure he can, he had someone from his family pass away or was very sick I don’t recall which one. And now he’s getting wet feet. I hope he’s not but I just don’t feel good about it with what has been said thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: It’s not a back injury, he’s afraid of covid 15 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: He was threatening to then decided not to. But now that a situation is in front of him he’s having seconds thoughts I’m sure. Cause let’s be serious this whole “back injury” thing seems a bit skeptical What a bunch of balogna. You think the Bills would risk investigation from the league for falsifying an injury report? Edited October 12, 2020 by MJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: Well then tell me when did he exactly injure his back? Was it in the game? Couldn’t be practice cause he didnt practice all week. Sure he can, he had someone from his family pass away or was very sick I don’t recall which one. And now he’s getting wet feet. I hope he’s not but I just don’t feel good about it with what has been said thus far. I don't know when he got injured. I'm not sure if it was at the game or after the game...I don't know. Just because I don't know doesn't mean it didn't happen. Contrary to popular belief, I don't know everything. Edited October 12, 2020 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Please stop with the Tre White covid-19 conspiracy stuff. I think I read somewhere that Friday's injury report would be the last one prior to the Tuesday game. Believe me, if the league doesn't force the Bills to report on injuries, they ain't gonna say a word. It’s being talked about cause tre was gonna opt out. So we have a valid point to talk about it on a message board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: He was threatening to then decided not to. But now that a situation is in front of him he’s having seconds thoughts I’m sure. Cause let’s be serious this whole “back injury” thing seems a bit skeptical “Threatening”. No, he stated how he was feeling about the situation. you seem skeptical Edited October 12, 2020 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 2:14 AM, Big Blitz said: The problem on D will not be if Tre doesn't play. The Titans are down 2 WRs and Brown is not 100% The problem is Henry might run for 150 and we do a poor job on Jonnu.. The Cowboys lose LVE and their D completely falls apart. If we lose Milano and Tre that's going to sting....but Milano moreso in this game. Last year we 'contained' Henry to 78 yds. His average last year was 102 ypg. First 3 games, his average per game is 106 yds, with a high of 119 and a low of 84. Why does everyone keep bringing up this 150 yds figure? Henry can produce that - he did so 4 times last season - 3 were against bottom-of-the-league run Ds I'd just like to read a bit of assessment as to why one thinks that'll go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: Well then tell me when did he exactly injure his back? Was it in the game? Couldn’t be practice cause he didnt practice all week. Sure he can, he had someone from his family pass away or was very sick I don’t recall which one. And now he’s getting wet feet. I hope he’s not but I just don’t feel good about it with what has been said thus far. Then keep your conspiracy theories to yourself. Unless you have some kind of evidence, you are just stating nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: I don't know when he got injured. I'm not sure if it was at the game or after the game...I don't know. Just because I don't know doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Contrary to popular belief, I don't know everything. Lol. I hear ya. I just want the guy in the game. It gives us the best opportunity to win that’s all. Just nervous playing without him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: It’s being talked about cause tre was gonna opt out. So we have a valid point to talk about it on a message board It's not even remotely valid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: It’s not a back injury, he’s afraid of covid BS. The slander of Tre White this week has been ridiculous. He’s been nothing but a model teammate and model citizen the entire time he’s been in Buffalo. He chose to play this year. He’s clearly a smart and thoughtful man. You think he didn’t know that he might have to play a COVID-impacted team at some point? You think the Bills are playing along and just lying to cover for him? This whole “Tre isn’t injured, he’s scared” conspiracy is dumb, insulting, and poorly thought out. Shame on the people peddling this nonsense. Edited October 12, 2020 by Logic 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: Lol. I hear ya. I just want the guy in the game. It gives us the best opportunity to win that’s all. Just nervous playing without him It does suck if he's done just because Levi Wallace is also on IR. Meaning we have Norman who just came off an injury and has one game player and now Ryan Lewis. We will be vulnerable back there without Tre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, MJS said: What a bunch of balogna. You think the Bills would risk investigation from the league for falsifying an injury report? If I remember correctly Jerry Hughes was injured last season but the bills never put him in their report. And he said like a big dummy that he wasn’t 100percent most of the season. So the answer is yes it does happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, MJS said: What a bunch of balogna. You think the Bills would risk investigation from the league for falsifying an injury report? 100% this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Logic said: BS. The slander of Tre White this week has been ridiculous. He’s been nothing but a model teammate and model citizen the entire time he’s been in Buffalo. He chose to play this year. He’s clearly a smart and thoughtful man. You think he didn’t know that he might have to play a COVID-impacted team at some point? You think the Bills are playing along and just lying to cover for him? This whole “Tre isn’t injured, he’s scared” conspiracy is dumb, insulting, and poorly thought out. Shame on the people peddling this nonsense. Sorry for talking about your little buddy, didn’t mean to insult your boy there. Just breath everything’s gonna be fine 6 minutes ago, MJS said: It's not even remotely valid. Im sure if a close member of your family dies from covid then it will become valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, BrainwashedBillsFan said: It’s being talked about cause tre was gonna opt out. So we have a valid point to talk about it on a message board Tre did not opt out. Nor "was he gonna opt out", which implies he said he would opt out then changed his mind. He stated publicly he had not made up his mind yet. Injury reports are required by the league and a team who faked them would face significant penalties. Thinking about opting out prior to the deadline in August (as was his right) in no reasonable way constitutes evidence he is "faking" an injury in week 5, much less your definitive statements "It’s not a back injury, he’s afraid of covid" It's BS Back injuries are problematic. Someone can injure their back and keep going and then the injury swells next day and the pain can be immobilizing. Been there, felt that. Their course of healing can be problematic too, and they can linger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: How is it skeptical? Back injuries don't happen in the NFL? He's not going to commit and then back out and fake an injury. all kinds of pun stuff happening here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: Sorry for talking about your little buddy, didn’t mean to insult your boy there. Just breath everything’s gonna be fine Horse *****. Own your words. You are saying the man opted in, knowing the score with Covid-19, now he's letting his teammates down and faking an injury (with the team's collusion) because he's scared of covid. That's insulting of Tre' and anyone with more than one functioning neuron has to know it's insulting of Tre' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: If I remember correctly Jerry Hughes was injured last season but the bills never put him in their report. And he said like a big dummy that he wasn’t 100percent most of the season. So the answer is yes it does happen And the Bills were investigated for that. And that's why they've been putting every little thing on the report this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: If I remember correctly Jerry Hughes was injured last season but the bills never put him in their report. And he said like a big dummy that he wasn’t 100percent most of the season. So the answer is yes it does happen his hand was a taped up club... it was hard to miss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Horse *****. Own your words. You are saying the man opted in, knowing the score with Covid-19, now he's letting his teammates down and faking an injury (with the team's collusion) because he's scared of covid. That's insulting of Tre' and anyone with more than one functioning neuron has to know it's insulting of Tre' It’s called sarcasm bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: all kinds of pun stuff happening here Was it punny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Last year we 'contained' Henry to 78 yds. His average last year was 102 ypg. First 3 games, his average per game is 106 yds, with a high of 119 and a low of 84. Why does everyone keep bringing up this 150 yds figure? Henry can produce that - he did so 4 times last season - 3 were against bottom-of-the-league run Ds I'd just like to read a bit of assessment as to why one thinks that'll go down. Because I just saw what the Rams did to us not too long ago and I am not convinced containing Jacobs and the Raiders who I believe were down 2 starters on the oline means we figured it out. Plus we had Milano and Tre back. I hope the D line figured things out like some think they did based on positional adjustments of guys they thought were better in the 1 vs 3 technique and it showed in the 4th quarter. But being down Milano we've seen what that means to this Defense. I think we all have to forget last year. The defense didn't get the Titans from December with Tannehill. Goff and Carr might have been the 2 best QBs its seen going back to last year vs Dak Wentz and Lamar. We did not see much great let alone elite QB play or offenses last year. Our Ds best performance was probably the first half vs the Texans. But it doesn't have to be a top 3 defense for us to win and that we thought it was coming into the season. I think we have plenty of evidence with our Front 7 that it won't be. But again that's fine. Just be a top 10 defense. I think it's at least that---when healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 So does anyone know his status? Still TBD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 There is zero chance that Tre would make up an injury to miss this game. No way he would do that to his teammates. No way would his teammates or coach put up with it if he tried. This team is like family to each other and would "run through walls" for each other. A player of that character does not do that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: his hand was a taped up club... it was hard to miss A lot of players have this and that taped up, so I dunno if that means anything. If that were a criteria, half of every team would be on injury report every week. If I recall correctly, the NFL issue with Jerry Hughes was that he was regularly given "veteran rest days" that were listed as such on the Injury Report. The league investigated whether he was being falsely listed as "veteran rest day" when he should have been listed as having an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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