whatdrought Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I mean, has “we’re gonna cut this dude and his huge contract unless someone trades for him” ever ended in the dude with the huge contract getting traded?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Yeah...on to the Pats. In all seriousness though, if he is released, is he subject to waivers? No. They’ll either trade him to the NFC or release him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: No. They’ll either trade him to the NFC or release him. He was already released 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Dablitzkrieg said: He was already released Thanks. Wow. $22M for one season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: The details would have to border on criminal I would think. He is who they signed. They can’t pretend now that he’s so awful they won’t pay him We’re about to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 On 8/22/2020 at 2:20 PM, whatdrought said: Title of the thread seems somewhat misleading... Guess I was wrong.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 How long before he’s a Dallas Cowboy or New York Jet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Thanks. Wow. $22M for one season. Almost as bad a contract as when the Jets gave an interior LB like 30 million for 2 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Almost as bad a contract as when the Jets gave an interior LB like 30 million for 2 games. I was so happy when I saw the Jets give mega bucks to an off-ball linebacker and a running back. I mean...if there are two positions in the 2020 NFL NOT to give big money to. Bad teams seem to find a way to stay bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Logic said: I was so happy when I saw the Jets give mega bucks to an off-ball linebacker and a running back. I mean...if there are two positions in the 2020 NFL NOT to give big money to. Bad teams seem to find a way to stay bad. Yep. Especially that LB and that RB. Mosely isn't bad, but paying anyone from the Ravens defensive scheme is a bad idea. Paying bell was so obviously a bad idea. I love it. Also, as an aside, what is with bills fans wishing division rivals well? the "i hope darnold/tua is okay, but not as good as Allen" mentality drives me crazy. Every time the Jets/Phins/Pats sign someone or draft someone I hope they're terrible. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Well, if he can kick, bring him in... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Yep. Especially that LB and that RB. Mosely isn't bad, but paying anyone from the Ravens defensive scheme is a bad idea. Paying bell was so obviously a bad idea. I love it. Also, as an aside, what is with bills fans wishing division rivals well? the "i hope darnold/tua is okay, but not as good as Allen" mentality drives me crazy. Every time the Jets/Phins/Pats sign someone or draft someone I hope they're terrible. Agreed. I actively root for our division rivals to make dumb decisions. Lately, the Jets have been playing along rather nicely. The Dolphins, less so. I like Flores and Tua, unfortunately. I get that some people want to see healthy rivalries and a strong AFC East. All I care about is the Bills winning. Whatever makes it most likely for them to win the next 10 division titles, that's what I want. No one discounted the Patriots' success the past two decades just because their division stunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Yep. Especially that LB and that RB. Mosely isn't bad, but paying anyone from the Ravens defensive scheme is a bad idea. Paying bell was so obviously a bad idea. I love it. Also, as an aside, what is with bills fans wishing division rivals well? the "i hope darnold/tua is okay, but not as good as Allen" mentality drives me crazy. Every time the Jets/Phins/Pats sign someone or draft someone I hope they're terrible. Mosely is better than not bad. Sadly for the Jets in two years they have got 3/4s of 1 game from him. I always hope our rivals players are terrible but I am also objective so when they sign someone I think is good I say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Logic said: Agreed. I actively root for our division rivals to make dumb decisions. Lately, the Jets have been playing along rather nicely. The Dolphins, less so. I like Flores and Tua, unfortunately. I get that some people want to see healthy rivalries and a strong AFC East. All I care about is the Bills winning. Whatever makes it most likely for them to win the next 10 division titles, that's what I want. No one discounted the Patriots' success the past two decades just because their division stunk. Let me introduce you to a little place called twobillsdrive.com. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, purple haze said: We’re about to find out. Yup. I would think there would be very specific language crafted between his agent and the team. delineating exactly what they could cut him for without the bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Mosely is better than not bad. Sadly for the Jets in two years they have got 3/4s of 1 game from him. I always hope our rivals players are terrible but I am also objective so when they sign someone I think is good I say so. He is. I still think the contract was questionable for where they were as a team, and what he brings to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, Logic said: Agreed. I actively root for our division rivals to make dumb decisions. Lately, the Jets have been playing along rather nicely. The Dolphins, less so. I like Flores and Tua, unfortunately. I get that some people want to see healthy rivalries and a strong AFC East. All I care about is the Bills winning. Whatever makes it most likely for them to win the next 10 division titles, that's what I want. No one discounted the Patriots' success the past two decades just because their division stunk. Yeah- I was really hoping the dolphins would get Herbert. I saw him as a lesser player and it is easier to root against him, whereas I really like Tua as a guy. Either way, I can root for him to be a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 31 minutes ago, whatdrought said: He is. I still think the contract was questionable for where they were as a team, and what he brings to the table. It was a big contract but it is also a critical position for their scheme and he is more 3 dimensional than people give him credit for. The pass break up that got him hurt against the Bills in week 1 is the exact play that the narrative on him says he can't make. Whether it was a sensible deal for the Jets at that time is a fair question, but it gets lumped in with the Bell deal and I think that is a little unfair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) Did we sign him yet ? Edited August 23, 2020 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Seeing SF as a mentioned destination. Would make sense due to Sherman and the getting to play SEA twice a year. Going to Dallas is good cause it gives me one more reason to hate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) And the hits just keep coming for the Ravens. ESPN.com: Ravens QB Lamar Jackson dealing with groin injury, sources say.https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29726871/ravens-qb-lamar-jackson-dealing-groin-injury-sources-say Edited August 24, 2020 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: And the hits just keep coming for the Ravens. ESPN.com: Ravens QB Lamar Jackson dealing with groin injury, sources say.https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29726871/ravens-qb-lamar-jackson-dealing-groin-injury-sources-say Not good. That’s the kind of thing that can stick and keep your speed and agility down which is 98% of Lamar’s game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: And the hits just keep coming for the Ravens. ESPN.com: Ravens QB Lamar Jackson dealing with groin injury, sources say.https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29726871/ravens-qb-lamar-jackson-dealing-groin-injury-sources-say 4 hours ago, whatdrought said: Not good. That’s the kind of thing that can stick and keep your speed and agility down which is 98% of Lamar’s game. I’m gonna go ahead and assume he’s on madden cover this year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Well, the top team discussed is Dallas, but they have only $12.6 mil. space which ranks them 19th. The top teams are the Browns, Broncos, Pats, and the Jets. I know the Pats lost Chung this year, so they might have an interest. I’m not letting my own feelings about my vitriol for the Pats and Jets Get involved, just thinking who needs safety help, and who has $. The other factor is who is willing to take in a malcontent who thinks they can control him. We don’t need him, but even more so, McD doesn’t want that kind of guy. I know I don’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 8 hours ago, whatdrought said: Not good. That’s the kind of thing that can stick and keep your speed and agility down which is 98% of Lamar’s game. Yeah, my buddy drafted him in our keeper round (10th round, goes in reverse order from the previous season's finish - get to keep the player for the next season), and i just sent him that and went oh mannnn gonna linger all year bruhhh 3 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Well, the top team discussed is Dallas, but they have only $12.6 mil. space which ranks them 19th. The top teams are the Browns, Broncos, Pats, and the Jets. I know the Pats lost Chung this year, so they might have an interest. I’m not letting my own feelings about my vitriol for the Pats and Jets Get involved, just thinking who needs safety help, and who has $. The other factor is who is willing to take in a malcontent who thinks they can control him. We don’t need him, but even more so, McD doesn’t want that kind of guy. I know I don’t. He's a free safety though. Dallas makes sense - since clinton-dix would likely be playing SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’m gonna go ahead and assume he’s on madden cover this year? Good guess 8 hours ago, whatdrought said: Not good. That’s the kind of thing that can stick and keep your speed and agility down which is 98% of Lamar’s game. It’d be such a shame to see that. Ahem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Title needs help. Thomas is gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I would have cut him for running trains with his brother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 8/22/2020 at 12:48 PM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Isn't this the guy who was caught in bed (by his gun-wielding wife) with another woman due to his Snapchat location and then said "This stuff happens"? Yep, that's him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Getting back to the OP, this article explains it https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/inside-the-earl-thomas-ravens-divorce-and-what-e2-80-99s-next-for-both-sides/ar-BB18jSlF Apparently it wasn't the typical training camp scuffle, but a prolonged thing stemming from Thomas getting called out for a busted coverage, which was one of many assignment errors. A few things to know about the Thomas release: • He was not well-liked by his teammates. He had a pattern of being late, and in a recent practice, he made multiple assignment errors, causing defensive teammates to confront him about his preparedness. He missed at least one walk-through with no valid excuse. When the incident at Friday’s practice happened, very few if any teammates came to his defense. Teammates backed Clark, the significantly lesser name. • The money will hurt Baltimore—a $15-million cap charge this year and $10 million next year for Thomas to not play for them, unless they win a grievance to get some of the money back. • The grievance process will be fascinating. The union represents Thomas, but also Chuck Clark—and also the rest of the Ravens who are not on Thomas’ side. What if more comes out about this dispute that shows Clark to clearly be the aggrieved victim, for instance? Can the NFLPA stand up for both Thomas and his apparent sworn enemy? This will be a fascinating case to follow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 22 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: And the hits just keep coming for the Ravens. ESPN.com: Ravens QB Lamar Jackson dealing with groin injury, sources say.https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29726871/ravens-qb-lamar-jackson-dealing-groin-injury-sources-say He is a QB. He can stand in pocket and throw, right? 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: • The grievance process will be fascinating. The union represents Thomas, but also Chuck Clark—and also the rest of the Ravens who are not on Thomas’ side. What if more comes out about this dispute that shows Clark to clearly be the aggrieved victim, for instance? Can the NFLPA stand up for both Thomas and his apparent sworn enemy? This will be a fascinating case to follow. As long as each player keeps his money that is all really what union cares about. They have defended multiple players taking cheap shots at other players multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 8:14 AM, C.Biscuit97 said: I would have cut him for running trains with his brother. ? ? ? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 7:49 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Getting back to the OP, this article explains it https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/inside-the-earl-thomas-ravens-divorce-and-what-e2-80-99s-next-for-both-sides/ar-BB18jSlF Apparently it wasn't the typical training camp scuffle, but a prolonged thing stemming from Thomas getting called out for a busted coverage, which was one of many assignment errors. A few things to know about the Thomas release: • He was not well-liked by his teammates. He had a pattern of being late, and in a recent practice, he made multiple assignment errors, causing defensive teammates to confront him about his preparedness. He missed at least one walk-through with no valid excuse. When the incident at Friday’s practice happened, very few if any teammates came to his defense. Teammates backed Clark, the significantly lesser name. • The money will hurt Baltimore—a $15-million cap charge this year and $10 million next year for Thomas to not play for them, unless they win a grievance to get some of the money back. • The grievance process will be fascinating. The union represents Thomas, but also Chuck Clark—and also the rest of the Ravens who are not on Thomas’ side. What if more comes out about this dispute that shows Clark to clearly be the aggrieved victim, for instance? Can the NFLPA stand up for both Thomas and his apparent sworn enemy? This will be a fascinating case to follow. I had made mention before that the guy seemed like an ***hole and that was the reason I didn't like him. I believe it was in a thread someone created about the players they disliked the most. Thomas was on my list. This just kind of validates my point and tells me my intuition was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/25/2020 at 2:40 AM, Limeaid said: As long as each player keeps his money that is all really what union cares about. They have defended multiple players taking cheap shots at other players multiple times. And it is pretty normal for unions to end up representing two sides of the same employment dispute. Happens all the time. They will have different NFLPA reps but it is perfectly possible for a union to represent both parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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