NoSaint Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Mr Wild said: Speculation from elsewhere in the internet Managed to both quote the entire story and not link it. Maybe the redskins will hire you. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Saint Doug said: I have a feeling this is going to be great. May have to pick of movie theatre popcorn. Trump is taking over the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: Managed to both quote the entire story and not link it. Maybe the redskins will hire you. haha it wasn't a story, it was a literal copy/paste of a reddit user posting his theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 All of this is very interesting in a wait and see kind of manner but I find myself wondering this: Say this bombshell leads to NFL forcing a sale (I think most in league circles would be happy to be rid of Snyder) - what’s the value of a team with a bad PR situation (potentially toxic depending on what goes down with the story), no history of success, no real future on the football side, in a non-sports town, with a very successful team next door, in the middle of a worldwide pandemic and all the uncertainty that comes with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, whatdrought said: All of this is very interesting in a wait and see kind of manner but I find myself wondering this: Say this bombshell leads to NFL forcing a sale (I think most in league circles would be happy to be rid of Snyder) - what’s the value of a team with a bad PR situation (potentially toxic depending on what goes down with the story), no history of success, no real future on the football side, in a non-sports town, with a very successful team next door, in the middle of a worldwide pandemic and all the uncertainty that comes with? Define "no history of success" The Redskins have 3 more Superbowl victories than we do.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Define "no history of success" The Redskins have 3 more Superbowl victories than we do.... *Recent. Sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, whatdrought said: All of this is very interesting in a wait and see kind of manner but I find myself wondering this: Say this bombshell leads to NFL forcing a sale (I think most in league circles would be happy to be rid of Snyder) - what’s the value of a team with a bad PR situation (potentially toxic depending on what goes down with the story), no history of success, no real future on the football side, in a non-sports town, with a very successful team next door, in the middle of a worldwide pandemic and all the uncertainty that comes with? DC fans might not be the most diehard out there but it’s still a large market in general and the football team itself has a ton of fans around the country. As of this past year, Forbes ranked them as the 14th most valuable sports franchise in the world (5th highest NFL team). Certainly the current environment wouldn’t be selling at the peak of its value but it’s still a team a lot of people would love to own and whoever replaces Snyder would instantly be the most popular person in the DC area. Edited July 16, 2020 by DCOrange 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 51 minutes ago, whatdrought said: All of this is very interesting in a wait and see kind of manner but I find myself wondering this: Say this bombshell leads to NFL forcing a sale (I think most in league circles would be happy to be rid of Snyder) - what’s the value of a team with a bad PR situation (potentially toxic depending on what goes down with the story), no history of success, no real future on the football side, in a non-sports town, with a very successful team next door, in the middle of a worldwide pandemic and all the uncertainty that comes with? I think that "no history of success" team may have been to 5 SB and won 3 or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 42 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Define "no history of success" The Redskins have 3 more Superbowl victories than we do.... Under Snyder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 58 minutes ago, whatdrought said: All of this is very interesting in a wait and see kind of manner but I find myself wondering this: Say this bombshell leads to NFL forcing a sale (I think most in league circles would be happy to be rid of Snyder) - what’s the value of a team with a bad PR situation (potentially toxic depending on what goes down with the story), no history of success, no real future on the football side, in a non-sports town, with a very successful team next door, in the middle of a worldwide pandemic and all the uncertainty that comes with? it would have to be a scandal involving Snyder himself or just reckless, criminal non-oversight that would lead to a Sterling-type situation. And from what I’ve read, Snyder has, for years, ingratiated himself with people like Jerry Jones by falling in line lock-step with Jerry’s opinions. So I don’t think he’s burned as many bridges within the owners’ circle as you would assume. don’t get me wrong - i despise the guy just based on his manipulations of the local media alone. I would love to see him thrown out of the league on his ***. I just don’t think it’s going to be that easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) This string of tweets seems to explain what its about Edited July 16, 2020 by Starr Almighty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: This string of tweets seems to explain what its about hoo boy. Wonder if Snyder’s going to try to pin it all on Bruce Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: hoo boy. Wonder if Snyder’s going to try to pin it all on Bruce Allen. he alludes to Allen perhaps being the whistle blower in his many tweets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: he alludes to Allen perhaps being the whistle blower in his many tweets Wouldn’t blame him (Allen) if even some of the stuff I am reading right now on twitter is true. Holy heck. Way worse than I thought earlier yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 This guy is letting it all out poor Jason ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: All of this is very interesting in a wait and see kind of manner but I find myself wondering this: Say this bombshell leads to NFL forcing a sale (I think most in league circles would be happy to be rid of Snyder) - what’s the value of a team with a bad PR situation (potentially toxic depending on what goes down with the story), no history of success, no real future on the football side, in a non-sports town, with a very successful team next door, in the middle of a worldwide pandemic and all the uncertainty that comes with? Oh man, maybe Trump can get a great deal? Edited July 16, 2020 by Motorin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: All of this is very interesting in a wait and see kind of manner but I find myself wondering this: Say this bombshell leads to NFL forcing a sale (I think most in league circles would be happy to be rid of Snyder) - what’s the value of a team with a bad PR situation (potentially toxic depending on what goes down with the story), no history of success, no real future on the football side, in a non-sports town, with a very successful team next door, in the middle of a worldwide pandemic and all the uncertainty that comes with? Sounds like Carolina Panthers. 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: DC fans might not be the most diehard out there but it’s still a large market in general and the football team itself has a ton of fans around the country. DC fans used to be die-hard before Snyder. There were not happy in general with move to Maryland (no one appeared to be except contractors who got paid to build it) but it nose dived after Snyder and stunts he pulled. 59 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: it would have to be a scandal involving Snyder himself or just reckless, criminal non-oversight that would lead to a Sterling-type situation. And from what I’ve read, Snyder has, for years, ingratiated himself with people like Jerry Jones by falling in line lock-step with Jerry’s opinions. So I don’t think he’s burned as many bridges within the owners’ circle as you would assume. don’t get me wrong - i despise the guy just based on his manipulations of the local media alone. I would love to see him thrown out of the league on his ***. I just don’t think it’s going to be that easy. Pressure on Jerry Richardson of Panthers made him sell. https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article209886574.html I have heard rumors of lawsuits from cheerleaders (boyfriends of them) hushed up with payout money. It makes sense of rename being a distraction because he clearly did not look into trademarks properly before announcement and as a local business man would know he would need to that ahead of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Sounds like Carolina Panthers. DC fans used to be die-hard before Snyder. There were not happy in general with move to Maryland (no one appeared to be except contractors who got paid to build it) but it nose dived after Snyder and stunts he pulled. Pressure on Jerry Richardson of Panthers made him sell. https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article209886574.html I have heard rumors of lawsuits from cheerleaders (boyfriends of them) hushed up with payout money. It makes sense of rename being a distraction because he clearly did not look into trademarks properly before announcement and as a local business man would know he would need to that ahead of time. it appears to sound (from rumors) very much in line with the Richardson stuff, only way worse and involving many more people (Gruden included.) based on rumor I reiterate. EDIT: yeah i get what you’re saying - when i posted that reply you responded to I did not yet read these latest rumors. Snyder gone if even 50% of them are true. I will celebrate. Edited July 16, 2020 by JoPoy88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 LaContorta dick pics...lol... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 https://meaww.com/washington-redskins-owner-dan-snyder-to-step-down-owing-to-sex-trafficking-allegations-fan-reactions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 8 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Define "no history of success" The Redskins have 3 more Superbowl victories than we do.... You b@stard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Seeing a lot of chatter about RG3 and why Shanahan didnt want him around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 9 hours ago, whatdrought said: All of this is very interesting in a wait and see kind of manner but I find myself wondering this: Say this bombshell leads to NFL forcing a sale (I think most in league circles would be happy to be rid of Snyder) - what’s the value of a team with a bad PR situation (potentially toxic depending on what goes down with the story), no history of success, no real future on the football side, in a non-sports town, with a very successful team next door, in the middle of a worldwide pandemic and all the uncertainty that comes with? It’s still an nfl franchise. What were the bills worth? and short term the pandemic is a worry but as indicated by these recent signings - everyone expects to muscle through and still see huge revenue jumps with the next tv deal 12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Seeing a lot of chatter about RG3 and why Shanahan didnt want him around. Do tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 9 hours ago, whatdrought said: All of this is very interesting in a wait and see kind of manner but I find myself wondering this: Say this bombshell leads to NFL forcing a sale (I think most in league circles would be happy to be rid of Snyder) - what’s the value of a team with a bad PR situation (potentially toxic depending on what goes down with the story), no history of success, no real future on the football side, in a non-sports town, with a very successful team next door, in the middle of a worldwide pandemic and all the uncertainty that comes with? team is a storied franchise with titles and a big fanbase. Likely a 3 billion dollar tag give or take a few bucks. Hell, Bezos says he wants to buy a team though i'd think he goes for the seahawks right? NFL could force a sale but they're not forcing a guy to sell it for anything less than market value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: If a fraction of what he claims ends up being true, this story is going to be absolutely wild. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Do tell Go through his follow up comments on here too Basically, everyone in the Org besides Mike Shanahan fell for the honeypot. Edited July 16, 2020 by DrDawkinstein 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Did Russ Brandon apply to work there yet? ? (Too soon?) ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Rooney Rule violations too! If even a small percentage of what this guy is tweeting is true, Snyder is effed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 52 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Seeing a lot of chatter about RG3 and why Shanahan didnt want him around. Thanks for the scoops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I'm extremely skeptical as there is literally no reason for any mainstream news publication to sit on this story. Not in today's era. Sexual harassment scandals are big news and there's literally no downside to running with it. This dude saying that deadspin, of all places, wouldn't run the story is the clincher for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, LeviF91 said: I'm extremely skeptical as there is literally no reason for any mainstream news publication to sit on this story. Not in today's era. Sexual harassment scandals are big news and there's literally no downside to running with it. This dude saying that deadspin, of all places, wouldn't run the story is the clincher for me. Its about access. Most of the media members that had the story knew they would lose access if they ran it. So, sure, they get one big story, but their career is ostensibly over b/c they don't have access to the Redskins and are blackballed from the rest of the league for not playing by the rules. This is pretty common in sports media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: I'm extremely skeptical as there is literally no reason for any mainstream news publication to sit on this story. Not in today's era. Sexual harassment scandals are big news and there's literally no downside to running with it. This dude saying that deadspin, of all places, wouldn't run the story is the clincher for me. Well, either this story is an absolute WHALE, or it’s shaping up to be one of the bigger disappointments in recent memory sports-story-wise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: I'm extremely skeptical as there is literally no reason for any mainstream news publication to sit on this story. Not in today's era. Sexual harassment scandals are big news and there's literally no downside to running with it. This dude saying that deadspin, of all places, wouldn't run the story is the clincher for me. I think one of those NFL aggregator accounts on Twitter had said that Josina Anderson said nobody wanted to say anything before WaPo publishes it because lawyers are already involved and nobody wants to get in that mess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: I'm extremely skeptical as there is literally no reason for any mainstream news publication to sit on this story. Not in today's era. Sexual harassment scandals are big news and there's literally no downside to running with it. This dude saying that deadspin, of all places, wouldn't run the story is the clincher for me. There are so many different stories, Im sure not all of them are true (or maybe?). But even if 1 of them is, theyre effed. That guy is also saying Redskins security was threatening outlets who had the stories previously. So maybe that was enough to make them sit. Didnt want to lose further access and didnt have enough concrete evidence yet. The ties to the Bruce Allen NDA expiring recently are pretty interesting. Theyre saying he's the only one who would have some of this info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Its about access. Most of the media members that had the story knew they would lose access if they ran it. So, sure, they get one big story, but their career is ostensibly over b/c they don't have access to the Redskins and are blackballed from the rest of the league for not playing by the rules. This is pretty common in sports media. So we're clear: we're saying that these journalists have no professional integrity? And here I've been told for three years that journalism is a high and lofty career that is above crude things like money or power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: So we're clear: we're saying that these journalists have no professional integrity? And here I've been told for three years that journalism is a high and lofty career that is above crude things like money or power. Big difference between sports media and journalism. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: So we're clear: we're saying that these journalists have no professional integrity? And here I've been told for three years that journalism is a high and lofty career that is above crude things like money or power. Is there a more self-congratulatory field than journalism? Maybe film making, but thats about it. 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Big difference between sports media and journalism. Sports journalists definitely hype themselves up to think they are real journalists. Plus, real journalists are not nearly as noble as they claim to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Sports journalists definitely hype themselves up to think they are real journalists. Plus, real journalists are not nearly as noble as they claim to be. Right. That was just my 2 second blurb because I'm way more interested in seeing what comes out than engaging @LeviF91 who wants to be "skepitcal" that anything bad could have gone down in the Redskins org, and somehow turn it around on "the media". ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Right. That was just my 2 second blurb because I'm way more interested in seeing what comes out than engaging @LeviF91 who wants to be "skepitcal" that anything bad could have gone down in the Redskins org, and somehow turn it around on "the media". ? I have no doubt that bad ***** goes down in that organization. I'm skeptical of the no-name twitterer who is now throwing every bad thing you can think of against the wall to see what sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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