DJB Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 6'0 205 Wingspan of 81”, which is the equivalent of someone 6’9”. 40 yard - 4.5 Vertical - 40 inches Broad - 128 (For those that want to watch a highlight video and not read entire post) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bills-gm-brandon-beane-falcons-gm-thomas-dimitroff-join-stf/id1227006689?i=1000463331888 BRANDON BEANE: "Receivers, tight ends, I like to call them touchdown makers, guys that can get the ball in their hands, to take the pressure off Josh, so he doesn't feel like he has to make every play himself, let me dump this little 6 yard hitch route, have the WR make the guy miss and take it 50" Aiyuk is a YAC monster. His tape is full of examples where he takes the ball to the house. Short throws and long throws. Hes also one of the best on tape to me at creating seperation at the beginning and top of the route. That's a big plus for any QB . Bills speak often of versatility and that it's a plus. Maybe not a sexy stat but one nonetheless: While he may not be the big name like Jefferson, Ruggs Higgins, Lamb and Jeudy, to me Aiyuk is a terrific WR prospect and no doubt a possible target by the Bills in round 1 / early round 2. 14 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 If they are targeting Aiyuk, I hope they get him in the second 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) I have no problem with this as I think Aiyuk is a terrific prospect and would be very happy if the Bills draft him. But he isn't 6'8" and a lot of Bills fans will have problems with that. ? Edited March 8, 2020 by njbuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) I like him a lot but the Bills will need to trade up into the top of the 2nd round to have a shot imo. He may even go late 1st. Edited March 8, 2020 by TheBeaneBandit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I like him a lot but the Bills will need to trade up into the top of the 2nd round to have a shot imo. He may even go late 1st. I like him a lot but the Bills will need to trade up into the top of the 2nd round to have a shot imo. He may even go late 1st. You can say that again lol Yes to me Aiyuk is a late first talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 minute ago, DJB said: You can say that again lol Yes to me Aiyuk is a late first talent. I'm gonna get the papers get the papers lol 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, DJB said: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bills-gm-brandon-beane-falcons-gm-thomas-dimitroff-join-stf/id1227006689?i=1000463331888 BRANDON BEANE: "Receivers, tight ends, I like to call them touchdown makers, guys that can get the ball in their hands, to take the pressure off Josh, so he doesn't feel like he has to make every play himself, let me dump this little 6 yard hitch route, have the WR make the guy miss and take it 50" 50"? What's that, like...a yard and a half? I mean, we basically already have a bunch of guys that can do that. Especially on 3rd and 8. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 So I say to you: welcome to the party. Aiyuk is a legit man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: So I say to you: welcome to the party. Aiyuk is a legit man. For sure. His route running will only improve. You can’t teach what he does with the ball in his hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 minute ago, NewEra said: For sure. His route running will only improve. You can’t teach what he does with the ball in his hand And his route running is already pretty solid. He can really break ‘em off. But my favorite thing about the way he runs routes is that his burst off the LOS is not only explosive, but also consistent. He just blazes off the snap, and does so regardless of whether it’s a run or pass play, which is huge. It doesn’t allow DBs to easily key their coverage, leverage, or run fit. You’re right that he’s got what you can’t teach, and is already good (but can get better) at what you can. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) @DJB Is it your contention that Aiyuk is the best RAC receiver available in the draft? Edited March 8, 2020 by Logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: And his route running is already pretty solid. He can really break ‘em off. But my favorite thing about the way he runs routes is that his burst off the LOS is not only explosive, but also consistent. He just blazes off the snap, and does so regardless of whether it’s a run or pass play, which is huge. It doesn’t allow DBs to easily key their coverage, leverage, or run fit. You’re right that he’s got what you can’t teach, and is already good (but can get better) at what you can. How’s his ability to snag the back shoulder throw? I’ve been watching Denzel Mims a bunch lately and that catch radius/back shoulder greatness is really tempting. what does allen need more? A wr that can compliment what he’s already pretty good at, the short route that always the wr to do his thing? Or, a WR that can help him improve on his poor deep ball %. A guy that doesn’t have to be open to make a play. A guy that allows allen to throw it up and let him get it and also some leeway on the mid range/deep accuracy because he can can snag them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Logic said: @DJB Is it your contention that Aiyuk is the best RAC receiver available in the draft? Without question. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phxbacker Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Maybe a good target after a trade down into later 1st round maybe? pick up an extra pick or two in the process of getting a good WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Did Beane or Schoen watch any of his games? I don’t think they are taking him if neither saw him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Htt2821 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Bias ASU alum here, would love to see Brandon in Buffalo...since he was a JC, he’s only had two years of decent coaching, he’s just scratching his potential. I’ve mentioned it here before, but his wingspan is massive for his frame. For reference, it is 1-2 inches shorter than Calvin Johnson’s despite being 5 inches shorter in height. Has also shown explosion in Special Teams with punt and kickoff td’s this past season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Yes but 2 questions. 1) how big are his hands 2) What in the tensile strength of his spleen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, DJB said: Without question. Fair enough. All things being equal, would you rather see Aiyuk or Ruggs in a Bills jersey come September? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 So, I have seen stan posts for Jefferson, Aiyuk, Reagor, Pittman Jr, Mims, Claypool, etc... Yet, there are still so steadfast that unless we get one of the top three, we arent getting a legit spec. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: So, I have seen stan posts for Jefferson, Aiyuk, Reagor, Pittman Jr, Mims, Claypool, etc... Yet, there are still so steadfast that unless we get one of the top three, we arent getting a legit spec. Interesting. You know you don’t have to click the thread, right? WR discussion seems to bother you in an oddly specific way. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) I’m fine with that, what’s his catch percentage? Found it, 86.6 percent Edited March 8, 2020 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, NewEra said: How’s his ability to snag the back shoulder throw? I’ve been watching Denzel Mims a bunch lately and that catch radius/back shoulder greatness is really tempting. what does allen need more? A wr that can compliment what he’s already pretty good at, the short route that always the wr to do his thing? Or, a WR that can help him improve on his poor deep ball %. A guy that doesn’t have to be open to make a play. A guy that allows allen to throw it up and let him get it and also some leeway on the mid range/deep accuracy because he can can snag them? No WR is going to help Josh improve much on the long ball. He's not missing the receivers by a yard or so but by 5 yard overthrows. Josh needs to find a way to get better on those throws himself. When he gets close, then the WR can help him. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I'm gonna get the papers get the papers lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: You know you don’t have to click the thread, right? WR discussion seems to bother you in an oddly specific way. You know you dont have to comment on my posts, right? Seems to attract you an oddly specific way. If nothing else these threads are fantastic for me. I absolutely love the depth of this class. I enjoy seeing everyone have different favorite prospects. Further probes my point of the depth of this class. So, you couldn't be any more wrong. Move along. Edited March 8, 2020 by BillsFan17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 I’d be fine with this. May be able to trade back and nab Aiyuk too. Bonus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, JoPoy88 said: I’d be fine with this. May be able to trade back and nab Aiyuk too. Bonus. Truth be told, the case could be made for Aiyuk at 22. Same for a lot of these guys, surely it would be better in the second round, but it's entirely possible they are gone by then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 I’m not trading back at 22 if my guy is there. Whoever that is, just take him at 22 unless you’re looking at guys who will be around on day 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: No WR is going to help Josh improve much on the long ball. He's not missing the receivers by a yard or so but by 5 yard overthrows. Josh needs to find a way to get better on those throws himself. When he gets close, then the WR can help him. josh can certainly improve some....and then the WR can help even more. While your comment has some truth to it, it’s false for sure. Josh is a work in progress. He’s just getting better. His deep ball will too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: Truth be told, the case could be made for Aiyuk at 22. Same for a lot of these guys, surely it would be better in the second round, but it's entirely possible they are gone by then. Highly likely that GB and SF each take a WR which starts a run that goes through the early 2nd. Particularly since those teams will be looking to give young QBs weapons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: Highly likely that GB and SF each take a WR which starts a run that goes through the early 2nd. Particularly since those teams will be looking to give young QBs weapons. Agreed, and you can maybe make the case that teams like the Saints may look to grab a WR as well right behind us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Logic said: Fair enough. All things being equal, would you rather see Aiyuk or Ruggs in a Bills jersey come September? I do think Ruggs is the superior talent. But the question becomes; Trade up for Ruggs and give additional assets? Or maybe move back a couple spots and still get Aiyuk? I'd be very happy with either guy for sure. Edited March 8, 2020 by DJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: josh can certainly improve some....and then the WR can help even more. While your comment has some truth to it, it’s false for sure. Josh is a work in progress. He’s just getting better. His deep ball will too Why agree with me by being disagreeable? I simply said that Josh has to get a lot closer on his deep throws for the WR to even help. I have faith that he will get better because of his work effort. I'm not so sure how my statement might have some truth to it but be "false for sure" like you implicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Why agree with me by being disagreeable? I simply said that Josh has to get a lot closer on his deep throws for the WR to even help. I have faith that he will get better because of his work effort. I'm not so sure how my statement might have some truth to it but be "false for sure" like you implicated. Honestly, I saw a number of deep throws last year where the receiver should have caught the ball, but came up 5 yards short due to slowing down in what appeared to be the receiver making an assumption the ball wasn’t coming his way or making a horrendous adjustment to the ball in flight. Behind Brown and Beasley, Buffalo’s receivers are awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 34 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: You know you dont have to comment on my posts, right? Seems to attract you an oddly specific way. If nothing else these threads are fantastic for me. I absolutely love the depth of this class. I enjoy seeing everyone have different favorite prospects. Further probes my point of the depth of this class. So, you couldn't be any more wrong. Move along. Not in your top 100 posts I’ll say that much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Ideally we get a DE or CB in the 1st and Aiyuk in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Why agree with me by being disagreeable? I simply said that Josh has to get a lot closer on his deep throws for the WR to even help. I have faith that he will get better because of his work effort. I'm not so sure how my statement might have some truth to it but be "false for sure" like you implicated. He does and I’m fairly confidant that he will be better this season, hence adding a wr with deep ball ability will help him succeed throwing the deep ball. It has some truth because if he doesn’t get better throwing the deep ball, the WR won’t help. The odd of him not getting any better are slim imo, which means a good deep ball wr would help him Just now, wppete said: Ideally we get a DE or CB in the 1st and Aiyuk in the 2nd. That would be amazing. Or one of the top 4 tackles imo (while unlikely). Just can’t see falling that far. Maybe trade up for him in the 2nd. He may be a 1st rd pick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 If we are going to do this....trade down Personally I want to see how Tee Higgans does at his pro day before going in on Jefferson or Ayuk.....but one thing is for certan....there WILL be a opportunity to take a quality WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: He does and I’m fairly confidant that he will be better this season, hence adding a wr with deep ball ability will help him succeed throwing the deep ball. It has some truth because if he doesn’t get better throwing the deep ball, the WR won’t help. The odd of him not getting any better are slim imo, which means a good deep ball wr would help him That would be amazing. Or one of the top 4 tackles imo (while unlikely). Just can’t see falling that far. Maybe trade up for him in the 2nd. He may be a 1st rd pick I agree I don’t se him falling to us in the 2nd. I also wouldn’t be upset if we get in the 1st a DE, CB or OT and then WR Michael Pittman Jr. in the 2nd. Whatever happens I do trust Beane and Co. to do the right thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 minute ago, wppete said: I agree I don’t se him falling to us in the 2nd. I also wouldn’t be upset if we get in the 1st a DE, CB or OT and then WR Michael Pittman Jr. in the 2nd. Whatever happens I do trust Beane and Co. to do the right thing. Beane and Co have been brutal when it comes to WR's so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 hour ago, YattaOkasan said: Did Beane or Schoen watch any of his games? I don’t think they are taking him if neither saw him. According to Astro they saw one game and met at Sr Bowl. Not as many views as the other WRs. OBD visits will also be a tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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