Jaguars to decline DT Marcell Dareus' option

[Purplebulldog]

Now I can see him and his homies in Birmingham all over the place. He will be living under a bridge in less 5 YEARS , MARK IT DOWN.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

A new Dareus contract, would have 'locker room cancer' stamped all over it.

 

 

[BuffaloSol]

19 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Yes he played fine but he’s like 52 now and still thinks he works for the FBI

I remember him giving his personal number out on twitter last year......... and I was drunk and left him a voicemail. Haha

[3rdand12]

12 hours ago, Sundancer said:

 

Phillips played well for two years off the Miami scrap heap. He didn't complain and he's earned his payday. Why crap on him?

 

 

I was speaking about Dareus. sorry.

11 minutes ago, BuffaloSol said:

I remember him giving his personal number out on twitter last year......... and I was drunk and left him a voicemail. Haha

that's seriously awesome : )

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

On 2/24/2020 at 4:33 PM, Buffalo716 said:

I would totally do it for league minimum.

 

Rex took a generational 3 tech and made him a plug and that was stupid

 

He could replace Phillips easily and at the 3 tech would probably be juiced up to play again

I have always thought Dareus has the best physical tools that I have ever seen from a DT. I think Dareus could out perform Phillips and I would be happy to see Dareus back. The guy has been through a lot in life and it would be amazing to see him play at the level I know he can play at.

[Wsam4031]

best trade Beane did. no thanks

[4_kidd_4]

With all the $ that goes around every pro sports league, I honestly don’t blame any of these guys for cashing out while they can.

 

You will always have your “mercenary” in it for themselves types and you will have your “rah rah team first” company men types.  It’s up to the individual franchises to do their homework and determine who a person in before hiring them.

 

That said, I was happy with the Dareus pick when they made it, and even happier to get rid of him when it became abundantly apparent the type of person he is.

[C.Biscuit97]

This thread is embarrassing.  “Fans” calling a guy a loser and saying he will end up homeless?  Best fans in the world huh?  For all the winners calling him a loser: how many of you got a scholarship to college?  How many of your was the Dpoy as your home state team won a national championship?  How many were top 5 picks?  How winners made the top 5% of their career field?  And then made millions of dollars?

 

now how many have had their mother, father, grandmother, mentor, and brother murdered before 27?  Dareus has done a bunch of stupid stuff and is far from a saint.  But it seems like there is a lot of stone throwing at a man none of you know personally.  You’re doing God’s work.  
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theundefeated.com/features/buffalo-bills-marcell-dareus-haiti/amp/

[Malazan]

44 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

This thread is embarrassing.  “Fans” calling a guy a loser and saying he will end up homeless?  Best fans in the world huh?  For all the winners calling him a loser: how many of you got a scholarship to college?  How many of your was the Dpoy as your home state team won a national championship?  How many were top 5 picks?  How winners made the top 5% of their career field?  And then made millions of dollars?

 

now how many have had their mother, father, grandmother, mentor, and brother murdered before 27?  Dareus has done a bunch of stupid stuff and is far from a saint.  But it seems like there is a lot of stone throwing at a man none of you know personally.  You’re doing God’s work.  
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theundefeated.com/features/buffalo-bills-marcell-dareus-haiti/amp/

 

I get what you're going for, but it's a fan forum. This is like going to a strip club and complaining about the patrons not acting like good Christians. Things are going to embellished and people are going to say things in a more extreme manner than they likely really feel. 

 

Also, the idea that people can't criticize someone if they don't have the equivalent of success in their field that the person they are criticizing has in theirs is sort of a strange one. 

[C.Biscuit97]

3 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

 

I get what you're going for, but it's a fan forum. This is like going to a strip club and complaining about the patrons not acting like good Christians. Things are going to embellished and people are going to say things in a more extreme manner than they likely really feel. 

 

Also, the idea that people can't criticize someone if they don't have the equivalent of success in their field that the person they are criticizing has in theirs is sort of a strange one. 

But calling someone a “loser” and saying they will be homeless isn’t going overboard?  The funny thing is the fans that do this are the ones who cry when Sammy Watkins says something back to them.  
 

Good rule in life is to not say things to people you won’t say face to face.  And if you are, you probably should be more successful in your life than the loser you are criticizing. 

[Logic]

Now's the time for all the people who complained that the Jaguars fleeced the Bills in the Dareus trade to show their faces.

[C.Biscuit97]

5 minutes ago, Logic said:

Now's the time for all the people who complained that the Jaguars fleeced the Bills in the Dareus trade to show their faces.

Eh.  We traded him for Wyatt Teller. He significantly improved the Jags run defense.  They beat us in the playoffs and made a SB run.  Ultimately, he wasn’t worth the money but I think there are much better trades to put your chest about.  See McCoy for Kiko or Hughes for Shepard.  

[K-9]

34 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Eh.  We traded him for Wyatt Teller. He significantly improved the Jags run defense.  They beat us in the playoffs and made a SB run.  Ultimately, he wasn’t worth the money but I think there are much better trades to put your chest about.  See McCoy for Kiko or Hughes for Shepard.  

Let’s see what the 5th and 6th round picks we got from Cleveland for Teller turn out to be before calling it a done deal. Right now they represent the 138th and 169th picks in the upcoming draft. Never know, Beane might find a gem or use them to trade up to find one.

Edited February 26, 2020 by K-9

[Malazan]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

But calling someone a “loser” and saying they will be homeless isn’t going overboard?  The funny thing is the fans that do this are the ones who cry when Sammy Watkins says something back to them.  
 

Good rule in life is to not say things to people you won’t say face to face.  And if you are, you probably should be more successful in your life than the loser you are criticizing. 

 

So like only Bill Gates can criticize Jess Bezos...well, that's a bold position. Also, before we can continue criticizing each other's argument here, we better determine which one of us is more successful in their field of work. 

Edited February 26, 2020 by jeremy2020

[C.Biscuit97]

27 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Let’s see what the 5th and 6th round picks we got from Cleveland for Teller turn out to be before calling it a done deal. Right now they represent the 138th and 169th picks in the upcoming draft. Never know, Beane might find a gem or use them to trade up to find one.

That’s fair.  If we get Tom Brady with the pick, I will gladly say it was an amazing trade. 

8 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

 

So like only Bill Gates can criticize Jess Bezos...well, that's a bold position. Also, before we can continue criticizing each other's argument here, we better determine which one of us is more successful in their field of work. 

Successful people aren’t on message board calling people they don’t know losers. 
 

and I do well.  But I never boo’d another man or person I dont know.  It’s weird. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 2/24/2020 at 9:05 PM, BuffaloBills1998 said:

He actually didn’t play bad last year and was one of the bright spots on their offense. They probably had to re sign him as well cause they don’t have anyone to replace him with lol

 

He played very well last year, true. 

 

He played well for the Bills in 2015-2016.  By 2017 he admitted he was out of shape and showed up to meetings drugged and stoned and his effectiveness fell off (the reason the Bills gave him a paycut).  Nothing there says to me "give this guy 2 yr $12.7M contract with $5M guaranteed" 

 

I'd want a bit of leverage in case he falls off the wagon or goes off his meds this off-season, myself.

 

36 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Let’s see what the 5th and 6th round picks we got from Cleveland for Teller turn out to be before calling it a done deal. Right now they represent the 138th and 169th picks in the upcoming draft. Never know, Beane might find a gem or use them to trade up to find one.

 

So I've asked this elsewhere, I'll ask it here: hypothetically, what kind of worth would extra 5th and 6th round picks really have in a trade-up?

[K-9]

6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

That’s fair.  If we get Tom Brady with the pick, I will gladly say it was an amazing trade. 

Tom Brady? Hell, I’ll settle for a player who’s just motivated to play for these coaches, teammates, and GM. Because he wasn’t his last season here. Not by a long shot.

4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He played very well last year, true. 

 

He played well for the Bills in 2015-2016.  By 2017 he admitted he was out of shape and showed up to meetings drugged and stoned and his effectiveness fell off (the reason the Bills gave him a paycut).  Nothing there says to me "give this guy 2 yr $12.7M contract with $5M guaranteed" 

 

I'd want a bit of leverage in case he falls off the wagon or goes off his meds this off-season, myself.

 

 

So I've asked this elsewhere, I'll ask it here: hypothetically, what kind of worth would extra 5th and 6th round picks really have in a trade-up?

If there’s a player they really like early in the fourth or late in the third, they can become valuable chips to make a move. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

6 minutes ago, K-9 said:

If there’s a player they really like early in the fourth or late in the third, they can become valuable chips to make a move. 

 

K tnks

 

So you think someone would swap our late-round 4th for an earlier 4th if we toss in what? 

Move up from late round 4th back into late 3rd for what?

 

Just trying to get a feel for what the value of these extra 5th and 6th round picks would really be.

Edit: the picks in question

[K-9]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So you think someone would swap our late-round 4th for an earlier 4th if we toss in what? 

Move up from late round 4th back into late 3rd for what?

 

Just trying to get a feel for what the value of these extra 5th and 6th round picks would really be.

For what? For whatever player they may value enough to make that deal to move to that spot, whatever it is. I could consult the draft value chart for a more definitive formulaic breakdown, but that’s not necessary. The point is, those picks can be used to maneuver if the Bills feel it worth while to do so. I’m not saying it’s enough to go up very high, but if they really like a player still on the board at some point, they can be used as capital. 

[Malazan]

4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

That’s fair.  If we get Tom Brady with the pick, I will gladly say it was an amazing trade. 

Successful people aren’t on message board calling people they don’t know losers. 
 

and I do well.  But I never boo’d another man or person I dont know.  It’s weird. 

 

I'm sure any and all success stems from your inability to criticize others more successful than you. 

[CoudyBills]

On 2/24/2020 at 5:27 PM, HOUSE said:

 

 

• By Jelani Scott NFL.com
• Published: Feb. 24, 2020 at 12:06 p.m.
• Updated: Feb. 24, 2020 at 02:50 p.m.

 

Marcell Dareus' time with the Jacksonville Jaguars has presumably come to an end.

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Monday that the Jags intend to decline the defensive tackle's $19.5 million option. Jacksonville had until Feb. 25 to make the decision.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001102813/article/roundup-jaguars-to-decline-dt-marcell-dareus-option

 

Can't be.  He was solely responsible for like the greatest run defense Jacksonville has ever known.  I'm sure I read that here.  

[cba fan]

On 2/24/2020 at 5:34 PM, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Also his play has regressed the last two years in Jacksonville, he’s not playing at a high level anymore. That defense had a shot to go to the super bowl in 17 and they got killed by bad QB play from Bortles 

They had a Super Bowl bound team in 2017. It was derailed by an officials whistle that took away what would have been a game sealing fumble return for TD vs Pats.

[Matt_In_NH]

Shocking

[YoloinOhio]

On 2/25/2020 at 5:26 PM, BUFFALOBART said:

Daeus lost his motivation the minute that he signed the Bills deal W/60 million guaranteed dollars.

He looked high as a kite in the video of him signing it!

[Logic]

13 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

I think more people complained that it was a strange trade to make in the middle of the season when the team was playing well. They went in a tail spin after that trade and their run defense got exposed in the process. 
 

I wouldn’t say it’s a win or loss. 

Meh. Bills made the playoffs that season. They still have two draft picks to use that ultimately resulted from that trade.

Dareus, meanwhile, made about a half a season of impact for the Jaguars, did nothing the next two seasons, and is now being cut. 

I still say the people that freaked out about it when it happened were -- predictably -- overreacting and have been proven wrong. Just my opinion.

[teef]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

Meh. Bills made the playoffs that season. They still have two draft picks to use that ultimately resulted from that trade.

Dareus, meanwhile, made about a half a season of impact for the Jaguars, did nothing the next two seasons, and is now being cut. 

I still say the people that freaked out about it when it happened were -- predictably -- overreacting and have been proven wrong. Just my opinion.

you realize who you're quoting...right?

[eball]

17 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

I think more people complained that it was a strange trade to make in the middle of the season when the team was playing well. They went in a tail spin after that trade and their run defense got exposed in the process. 
 

I wouldn’t say it’s a win or loss. 

 

It is most certainly not a "loss."  If you really think the Bills -- both then and now -- would have been better off keeping Dareus, I don't know what to tell you.

[Phil The Thrill]

18 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

I think more people complained that it was a strange trade to make in the middle of the season when the team was playing well. They went in a tail spin after that trade and their run defense got exposed in the process. 
 

I wouldn’t say it’s a win or loss. 

I would say it’s a win only because it allowed them to get out from under a terrible contract.  Trading Marcel was more about getting a horrible (Thanks Whaley) contract off the books and getting a player who didn’t seem to be buying into the system.  
 

They were realistic with what the 2017 team was and were looking toward the future and getting the team in a better cap situation.  
 

Would he have been better at DT than Adolphus Washington (Thanks Whaley).  Yeah probably but I don’t think Marcel makes much of a difference in the W-L column.  
 

They bit the bullet and got rid of an underperforming, overpaid player who didn’t want to be in Buffalo.  

[BringBackOrton]

7 hours ago, Logic said:

Meh. Bills made the playoffs that season. They still have two draft picks to use that ultimately resulted from that trade.

Dareus, meanwhile, made about a half a season of impact for the Jaguars, did nothing the next two seasons, and is now being cut. 

I still say the people that freaked out about it when it happened were -- predictably -- overreacting and have been proven wrong. Just my opinion.

Somehow, the Jags have still won more playoff games than the Bills have since the Dareus trade.

[Logic]

5 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

Somehow, the Jags have still won more playoff games than the Bills have since the Dareus trade.

 

Definitely because of Dareus.

[BringBackOrton]

Just now, Logic said:

 

Definitely because of Dareus.

Well, he was on their roster for those two wins....

3 hours ago, eball said:

 

It is most certainly not a "loss."  If you really think the Bills -- both then and now -- would have been better off keeping Dareus, I don't know what to tell you.

I don’t know if the only two options were trading Dareus mid season for a maximum cap penalty or keeping him for 3 years.

[thebandit27]

6 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

Somehow, the Jags have still won more playoff games than the Bills have since the Dareus trade.

Are you really trying to make the argument that Jax has been trending up since that trade and Buffalo hs been trending down?

[BringBackOrton]

4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

Are you really trying to make the argument that Jax has been trending up since that trade and Buffalo hs been trending down?

I suppose if I was, I’d have mentioned something about trends since that trade.

[thebandit27]

8 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

I suppose if I was, I’d have mentioned something about trends since that trade.

You did.

[BringBackOrton]

14 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

You did.

I don't remember that. I do remember saying the Jags have won more playoff games than the Bills have since that trade. It's a nice little fact the "LOL Jags" crowd needed reminding. Especially when they were trying to paint the Jags trading for Dareus as a bad move, when they got a talented D-lineman for a sixth rounder to add to a team only a few minutes away from playing in the Super Bowl, which is much closer than the Bills have sniffed since 1993.

 

Perspective is nice sometimes.

Edited February 27, 2020 by BringBackOrton

[Billy Zabka]

Whaley, Brandon, Overdorf gave Dareus a huge deal with no boilerplate voided guaranteed money clauses despite constant drug, weight, and maturity issues.  Good riddance to those clowns...except Overdorf.

Edited February 28, 2020 by Billy Zabka

[GG]

Meanwhile back to today's news, he wasn't cut

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1100738615863332864?s=20

Edited February 28, 2020 by GG

[Logic]

2 hours ago, BringBackOrton said:

Well, he was on their roster for those two wins....

So was Tyler Shatley.

[thebandit27]

1 hour ago, GG said:

Meanwhile back to today's news, he wasn't cut

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1100738615863332864?s=20

That’s from a year ago 

[GG]

20 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

That’s from a year ago 

Oops