eball Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) ...on his time in Buffalo and the circumstances of his trade to KC in this article. Anyone else find it amusing that he bemoans not being given a chance to show he can play in Buffalo and now he is a backup for for Chefs? Edited January 29, 2020 by eball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Eball, right. He has the skill set of a back up. I have nothing against the guy, but he is pulling the sour grapes after the fact. Jus move forward Reggie. You’re in the SB. Focus on that if you’re number is called Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, eball said: Anyone else find it amusing that he bemoans not being given a chance to show he can play in Buffalo and now he is a backup for for Chefs? I’m very meh on this. Assume that he will be in the field plenty on Sunday though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Ragland will be playing a lot in this game, he is good vs the run but will be targeted in the passing game. I think KC will be making a huge mistake if they sell out to stop the run thinking Jimmy G can't hurt them. Jimmy G broke most of Romos college records, he may not have the best WR's but I think he can easily put up 300+ and 3 TD's vs KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 It's almost comical that at the biggest stage of their lives, player after player chooses to use the opportunity to blast former teams. It's never a "Just didn't work out there. Made a few friends though, had some good times but I'm where I need to be now". There's always a saga. A backstory. Even funnier is the 2 players trying to stick it to Buffalo this week a bit had very very little impact on why the Chiefs are where they are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) Meh. I always thought he would be as good or better than the last LB to make the roster or the pick received. Didn’t save money. id have been fine with him as depth and in “and short” packages. that said, not losing sleep over that one Edited January 29, 2020 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 R R is a d-tackle in a linebacker body. He needed a golf cart to go sideline to sideline. I wish him well and a ring this weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey13 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said: It's almost comical that at the biggest stage of their lives, player after player chooses to use the opportunity to blast former teams. It's never a "Just didn't work out there. Made a few friends though, had some good times but I'm where I need to be now". There's always a saga. A backstory. Even funnier is the 2 players trying to stick it to Buffalo this week a bit had very very little impact on why the Chiefs are where they are. To Sammy's credit he has mentioned a few times in LA and KC that he knows he was too much of a diva in Buffalo and part of his learning experience was that stats don't always matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, eball said: ...on his time in Buffalo and the circumstances of his trade to KC in this article. Anyone else find it amusing that he bemoans not being given a chance to show he can play in Buffalo and now he is a backup for for Chefs? Bear in mind, he's a backup who has averaged 34% of the defensive snaps since mid-season. In the modern NFL defense, whether or not a guy "starts" is a function of which defense takes the field for the first defensive snap. Ragland is playing a significant role on the Chiefs D - which is still not that good. 1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said: It's almost comical that at the biggest stage of their lives, player after player chooses to use the opportunity to blast former teams. It's never a "Just didn't work out there. Made a few friends though, had some good times but I'm where I need to be now". There's always a saga. A backstory. Even funnier is the 2 players trying to stick it to Buffalo this week a bit had very very little impact on why the Chiefs are where they are. To be fair to the players, what doesn't always get included in the story are the specific questions they are asked about those teams and how they feel about being a high draft pick then traded and so forth. Sometimes reporters drill on it and then put together the scraps they get to make it seem like the guy put the team on blast when really, he answered about 5 specific leading questions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 The longer the days leading up to this game roll on the more I want the 49ers to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 We gotta stop being so sensitive. I don’t have a problem with anything he said. He was a 2nd round pick by a previous regime and never saw the field for the current regime. Any competitor would feel the same way. Not his fault the Bills drafted him so high for Rex’s defense. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBennett Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 He was ok but not great..thing is IF he was around now he may fit in well with the McD "rotational" football plan. But he simply was never the guy you PAID bigger $$ to bother keeping around he isnt that guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: We gotta stop being so sensitive. I don’t have a problem with anything he said. He was a 2nd round pick by a previous regime and never saw the field for the current regime. Any competitor would feel the same way. Not his fault the Bills drafted him so high for Rex’s defense. Who's sensitive? I find it interesting to hear what players say when they leave an organization. It gives insight into the athlete's mind. Very often it doesn't truly match reality. 21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Topic titles must reflect the content of the topic (and it must contain more than just a name). This helps to reduce the number of duplicate topics and makes the community much more user friendly. Please edit the title so that it properly reflects the discussion that you started. Thank you. I think this is a little bit of over-moderation, to be frank. It's Super Bowl week, Ragland is on the Chiefs, and it's not as if people are confused as to what the topic is. But whatever. Edited January 29, 2020 by eball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) I can picture him, Sammie, and McCoy discussing each of their departures from Buffalo and rewriting history. None of them probably listening to the other, just using the time to make themselves feel better. Haha Edited January 30, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 31 minutes ago, eball said: I think this is a little bit of over-moderation, to be frank. It's Super Bowl week, Ragland is on the Chiefs, and it's not as if people are confused as to what the topic is. But whatever. You are welcome to take this up with the board owner, who asks that topic titles be complete and reflect the content of the thread so others can see and avoid - and asks that moderators enforce this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, eball said: ...on his time in Buffalo and the circumstances of his trade to KC in this article. Anyone else find it amusing that he bemoans not being given a chance to show he can play in Buffalo and now he is a backup for for Chefs? No, I was totally fine with what he said. To me, he wasn't talking down the city or the organization, he made clear he understood why he was cut just that he wished they would have given him more of a chance. I couldn't find anything bad he said about Beane or McD and I respect the fact he was willing to talk with some candor. Backup or not, the man's a competitive professional, and he felt like he never had a chance here and wishes he had. I can respect that. The only sour grapes I see here are from the posters, none of these former players "blasted" the franchise and trying to belittle his words because he's only a "backup" on a talented superbowl contending team is the closest thing I see to sour grapes here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 He is who we thought he was. What else is there to say? Nothing to see here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: No, I was totally fine with what he said. To me, he wasn't talking down the city or the organization, he made clear he understood why he was cut just that he wished they would have given him more of a chance. I couldn't find anything bad he said about Beane or McD and I respect the fact he was willing to talk with some candor. Backup or not, the man's a competitive professional, and he felt like he never had a chance here and wishes he had. I can respect that. The only sour grapes I see here are from the posters, none of these former players "blasted" the franchise and trying to belittle his words because he's only a "backup" on a talented superbowl contending team is the closest thing I see to sour grapes here. You sound a bit sensitive. Reggie Ragland, on a good day, plays roughly 1/3 of the snaps for a mediocre defense. He's not what he was purported to be yet talked about how Buffalo didn't "give him a chance" to play. He didn't bash the organization but his perspective on who he is doesn't seem to match reality. That's the amusing part to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: It's almost comical that at the biggest stage of their lives, player after player chooses to use the opportunity to blast former teams. It's never a "Just didn't work out there. Made a few friends though, had some good times but I'm where I need to be now". There's always a saga. A backstory. Even funnier is the 2 players trying to stick it to Buffalo this week a bit had very very little impact on why the Chiefs are where they are. Not comical everyone wants vindication for their talents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, eball said: ...on his time in Buffalo and the circumstances of his trade to KC in this article. Anyone else find it amusing that he bemoans not being given a chance to show he can play in Buffalo and now he is a backup for for Chefs? You're reading way too much into what is a truthful, non-controversial statement of fact: "But I wish they would have given me a chance to show that I really can play and I really could have helped their defense if they gave me time. But they didn't give me the time and they traded me here. I know, my first five weeks here, they gave me the time to rehab and get back even stronger on my knee. Actually, I've been trying to make due on everything that (Chiefs GM) Brett Veach and Coach (Andy) Reid have done for me and I'm very thankful for those two to come get me out of Buffalo and I'm here playing for the Chiefs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 He was here for one season, spending the entire year on IR. Was there really all that much opportunity to give him more and meaningful time in that following training camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Is he a backup? I see him out on the field a lot every time I watch the Chiefs. And his quotes dont read like sour grapes. The Bills were a mess with Rex, that isnt a secret. He was scheme-specific and we didnt really give him a chance. Why does everyone want to hate on former players on the Chiefs? This is a lot like when that jabroni made the thread bagging on Sammy Watkins for getting down when they fell behind to the Texans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 He simply lacks the athleticism to be effective in pass coverage in a league where two down thumpers are passé. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I mean, he was brought into camp and given the opportunity to compete for the job. Lost the job to Preston Brown, who is terrible, and then got traded for a 4th round pick which helped us get a good TE who has the makings of a star... Not sure he was done dirty at all. He wasn't a scheme fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 @Lurker and @DrDawkinstein you guys clearly didn't understand the context of my post (or follow up). It would be nice if folks could actually read. I didn't "hate" on Ragland and I didn't say he trashed the Bills -- I simply find it interesting how pro athletes' perception of what happened often doesn't match reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, eball said: @Lurker and @DrDawkinstein you guys clearly didn't understand the context of my post (or follow up). It would be nice if folks could actually read. I didn't "hate" on Ragland and I didn't say he trashed the Bills -- I simply find it interesting how pro athletes' perception of what happened often doesn't match reality. If it makes you feel better, I was said jabroni that started the Watkins thread. I was just kidding with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, eball said: @Lurker and @DrDawkinstein you guys clearly didn't understand the context of my post (or follow up). It would be nice if folks could actually read. I didn't "hate" on Ragland and I didn't say he trashed the Bills -- I simply find it interesting how pro athletes' perception of what happened often doesn't match reality. I can read fine. Nothing Ragland had to say in the article was incorrect. It matched reality perfectly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, Lurker said: I can read fine. Nothing Ragland had to say in the article was incorrect. It matched reality perfectly... He stated his opinion. The "facts" are that he is a part-time player on an "ok" defense, yet he said the Bills didn't give him a chance to play (inferring he would have justified his draft selection). I will politely disagree with your assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, eball said: He stated his opinion. The "facts" are that he is a part-time player on an "ok" defense, yet he said the Bills didn't give him a chance to play (inferring he would have justified his draft selection). I will politely disagree with your assessment. The fact is that McD didn't give him a chance, as he wasn't a good fit in his scheme. Nothing I read in his quote says he was trying to justify his draft position. All he wanted to do was get on the field and compete for a spot--which he did't get to do in Buffalo. What happened after he got to KC--whether as a part-time player or not (although taking 34% of the snaps for a LB with his speed issues is pretty good, actually)--is irrelevant, except for you reading something into it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 His skill set is a horrendous fit for Sean McDermott's defense. If he is a fit for what KC does on defense and he's still a backup, there is simply no way he could have been a contributor in what the Bills do now on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, eball said: You sound a bit sensitive. Reggie Ragland, on a good day, plays roughly 1/3 of the snaps for a mediocre defense. He's not what he was purported to be yet talked about how Buffalo didn't "give him a chance" to play. He didn't bash the organization but his perspective on who he is doesn't seem to match reality. That's the amusing part to me. A guy who simply wanted more of an opportunity here? He can't help where we drafted him or others' perceptions, and I didn't feel like he was holding himself up as some great player. Maybe you did? I don't know, maybe to you I am too sensitive but I just don't get why you have to look down on the guy? He's not a super star but there's little demand for one dimensional run thumpers like him so kudos that he's managed to stick around the league and on one of the top teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I can’t believe we got a 4th for him 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Ragland will be playing a lot in this game, he is good vs the run but will be targeted in the passing game. I think KC will be making a huge mistake if they sell out to stop the run thinking Jimmy G can't hurt them. Jimmy G broke most of Romos college records, he may not have the best WR's but I think he can easily put up 300+ and 3 TD's vs KC. Personally I’d love all those pass catchers in Buffalo. Very underrated group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, TigerJ said: His skill set is a horrendous fit for Sean McDermott's defense. If he is a fit for what KC does on defense and he's still a backup, there is simply no way he could have been a contributor in what the Bills do now on defense. This should be his take away. Appreciate finding a scheme that got him snaps. He wouldn’t have made the 53 in Buffalo and Now he might get on the stat sheet in a super bowl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Cripple Creek said: I’m very meh on this. Assume that he will be in the field plenty on Sunday though. Not so sure. San Fran attacks the edges with speed. They might get smoked for 200 rushing yards if Ragland has to play sideline to sideline. he is 100% an inside thumper Edited January 29, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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