Warren Zevon Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: I'm aware of what a tracer does! Geez. The point is that you don't need a 'tracer' if it turns out you ALREADY KNOW the common denominator of this limited group of ten people! For example, if in the entire massive state of Wyoming, they know every single one of the ten people are in a single nursing home, then you know to isolate that nursing home. You don't need to do a lot 'tracing'. Remember, we're trying to figure how the disease spreads....not just who has it! If you are forever playing whack-a-mole with an army of tracers, you're never going to get in front of this problem...you're always going to be playing catch up. Again - who are the "they" you're referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just a daily reminder. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: Again - who are the "they" you're referring to? I already told you....but let me try this again. I'm going to assume that if the State has a case count, that number didn't come out of the sky! It came from the organizations that conducted the tests...no? They report the positive tests to the State Health Officials, who then report them to the CDC. So it stands to reason that in the State of Wyoming Health Officials could very quickly look at set of data points from TEN PEOPLE, to see where (if) there's a common denominator. Wyoming is a HUGE place! There must be some connection between these ten people. If there isn't, you are never going to get in front of this issue....never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I already told you....but let me try this again. I'm going to assume that if the State has a case count, that number didn't come out of the sky! It came from the organizations that conducted the tests...no? They report the positive tests to the State Health Officials, who then report them to the CDC. So it stands to reason that in the State of Wyoming Health Officials could very quickly look at set of data points from TEN PEOPLE, to see where (if) there's a common denominator. Wyoming is a HUGE place! There must be some connection between these ten people. If there isn't, you are never going to get in front of this issue....never. Okay - let's take it a step further in this magical scenario where Wyoming has only 10 cases - and even another step further and assume state health officials found all 10 have a common denominator. Then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-28/swiss-say-sex-work-is-ok-but-not-judo-in-virus-reopening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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plenzmd1 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 43 minutes ago, westside2 said: Those numbers are as crooked as the politicians who compose them. If you want to believe them, then go right ahead. I know how badly the left wants to keep this shutdown going. It's there only hope to beat Trump in the election. Do you read what others post? Cause it sure seems you are not comprehending 1) the actual numbers that were postes 2) what @shoshin wrote, and what he has been saying in this thread for at least a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Warren Zevon said: Okay - let's take it a step further in this magical scenario where Wyoming has only 10 cases - and even another step further and assume state health officials found all 10 have a common denominator. Then what? Warren.....they don’t have ten cases. They had ten NEW cases yesterday. So with that small of a number they have to know who those ten people are....right? You use the data you get from those ten people to devise a mitigation strategy. Having not seen the data, there’s no way for me to say what comes next. But, if the data reveals a pattern, you can then make SCIENTIFIC findings about spread, etc Didn’t anyone take science in junior high? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 For added perspective 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jon in Pasadena Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Mel Brooks already invented that............ 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Magox said: For added perspective I'm just worried (deaths are awful sad) the missing link might be for those might have mid-long term health issues. Wish we had more data of that. Trump signs social media executive order that calls for removal of liability protections over 'censoring'President Trump makes remarks before signing social media executive order. Flanked by Attorney General Bill Barr, President Trump signed an executive order in the Oval Office on Thursday that interprets Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996 (CDA) as not providing statutory liability protections for tech companies that engage in censorship and political conduct. The president's order, which also cuts federal funding for social media platforms that censor users' political views, came just two days after Twitter took the unprecedented step of slapping a "misleading" warning label on two of Trump's tweets concerning the fraud risks of nationwide mail-in balloting. The move immediately backfired: Experts disputed that Trump's tweet was actually misleading, in part because mail-in balloting has been linked to ongoing fraud; Twitter's fact-check itself contained false statements; and Twitter failed to apply the standard of review to other users. At Thursday's signing ceremony, Trump called the fact-check "egregious," and held up a photo of Twitter executive Yoel Roth, who heads up the site's fact-checking and rules-making operation. Fox News reported on Wednesday that Roth has mocked Trump supporters, called Trump's team "ACTUAL NAZIS," slammed "scary trannies" in New York City, and called GOP Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell a "bag of farts." (In a statement, Twitter did not dispute Fox News' reporting, but called it "unfortunate.") "My executive order calls for new regulations under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act to make it so that social media companies that engage in censoring any political conduct will not be able to keep their liability shield," the president said. Agree with President Trump. About time. They are censorship videos on youtube hope he goes that far with them as well. About time took action on this. (Might be related hydroxychloroquine (coronavirus) gets censored on youtube) https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-signs-executive-order-on-social-media-companies Edited May 28, 2020 by Buffalo Bills Fan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Better across the board 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 WHAT THE EXPERTS WERE SAYING THREE MONTHS AGO: Top disease official: Risk of coronavirus in USA is ‘minuscule’; skip mask and wash hands. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Can see the democrats changing there tune for no masks with the masks Trump 2020. So sad how they do things.. For me going to wear masks understandable for my health and family health. Biggest concern to be honest. No matter the politics. (going out to places but not at home) Edited May 28, 2020 by Buffalo Bills Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: “How dare you...you are a peeg Pierre!! I never want to see you again!!!” ”Non mon cheri!! Pierre is not a peeg! I said “TUBES! Zeez TUBES are beauteeful!” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: How friggin' ironic. THIS is how people try to "Get Smart." People really are nucking futz. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: New sex procedures in France 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Out of curiosity. How many people here fall under one of the following: A. Full on quarantine. Wears masks in confined public places like Home Depot or a grocery store and the such. Doesn’t go anywhere else or see anyone. B. Partial quarantine. Goes to work but wears a mask the entire day and practices SD (6 feet distance) C. Gets our regularly and sees friends and family, but wears a mask and practices SD. D. Going to the restaurants and barbershops and every where else. No mask. No SD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 hours ago, B-Man said: Mel Brooks already invented that............ WHAT??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci on Wednesday became the first Trump administration official to say definitively that hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment for the coronavirus, based on the available data. "The scientific data is really quite evident now about the lack of efficacy," Fauci — the U.S. government's top infectious disease expert — said on CNN. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/27/fauci-hydroxychloroquine-not-effective-against-coronavirus-283980 Face palm Trust President Trump lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci on Wednesday became the first Trump administration official to say definitively that hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment for the coronavirus, based on the available data. "The scientific data is really quite evident now about the lack of efficacy," Fauci — the U.S. government's top infectious disease expert — said on CNN. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/27/fauci-hydroxychloroquine-not-effective-against-coronavirus-283980 Face palm Trust President Trump lots. He's basing a lot of that on The Lancet study and it appears that study's data collection had lots of issues...It's in the HCQ thread. In any case, more on the potential of previous bird flu/SARS and other flu related immunity that could be helpful against fighting COVID 19 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Justice said: Out of curiosity. How many people here fall under one of the following: A. Full on quarantine. Wears masks in confined public places like Home Depot or a grocery store and the such. Doesn’t go anywhere else or see anyone. B. Partial quarantine. Goes to work but wears a mask the entire day and practices SD (6 feet distance) C. Gets our regularly and sees friends and family, but wears a mask and practices SD. D. Going to the restaurants and barbershops and every where else. No mask. No SD. A. I live in the people's republic of new Jersey Been this way for three months now. I'm over it, get rid of all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 32 minutes ago, Magox said: He's basing a lot of that on The Lancet study and it appears that study's data collection had lots of issues...It's in the HCQ thread. In any case, more on the potential of previous bird flu/SARS and other flu related immunity that could be helpful against fighting COVID 19 This is a prime example of the difference between quoting the results of a study, and actually reading and analyzing the study to judge the quality of its processes used in drawing its conclusions. Sadly, criticizing the quality of certain studies and who financed them gets you labeled anti-science and anti-business. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Justice said: Out of curiosity. How many people here fall under one of the following: A. Full on quarantine. Wears masks in confined public places like Home Depot or a grocery store and the such. Doesn’t go anywhere else or see anyone. B. Partial quarantine. Goes to work but wears a mask the entire day and practices SD (6 feet distance) C. Gets our regularly and sees friends and family, but wears a mask and practices SD. D. Going to the restaurants and barbershops and every where else. No mask. No SD. E. Go out regularly, pull up my bandana just before entering a public building. I am willing to conform that much, but I wouldn't go visit people with a mask and maintain 6 feet of distance. I just act normally. I don't know any older, or high risk people. If I did, I would wear a mask around them. Basically, I only conform when in a closed space with the general public. I think it's a suitable level of precaution. Edited May 29, 2020 by Prickly Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 8 hours ago, Justice said: Out of curiosity. How many people here fall under one of the following: A. Full on quarantine. Wears masks in confined public places like Home Depot or a grocery store and the such. Doesn’t go anywhere else or see anyone. B. Partial quarantine. Goes to work but wears a mask the entire day and practices SD (6 feet distance) C. Gets our regularly and sees friends and family, but wears a mask and practices SD. D. Going to the restaurants and barbershops and every where else. No mask. No SD. The rules where I am are "A" but I am living my life at C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 To error on the side of caution in case of a second wave in the fall , stockpile convalescent plasma and remdesivir . I would pay recovered patients at least $200 for convalescent plasma , it might be well worth it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 How one model simulated 2.2million American deaths due to Wuhan virus. Almost like yelling “FIRE” in a crowded theatre. Practice good hygiene people... common sense and good hygiene. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 21 hours ago, Warren Zevon said: I'm not sure you understand what a tracer does. Here's a very scientific explanation of what a tracer does. NSFW - Language 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 What is Trump’s national policy for testing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What is Trump’s national policy for testing? I’ve heard he prefers the SAT over the ACT. Does that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 If you like your testing, you can keep your testing Period. Stop living in fear. Living in fear is unhealthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’ve heard he prefers the SAT over the ACT. Does that help? Helps kill people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Helps kill people. Sometimes I’m impressed by your ability to jab and debate.....and then you do this. Lighten up Francis! It’s Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Sometimes I’m impressed by your ability to jab and debate.....and then you do this. Lighten up Francis! It’s Friday. Not having a national testing plan is killing people. You disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nanker said: If you like your testing, you can keep your testing Period. Stop living in fear. Living in fear is unhealthy. Tiberius doesn't get periods anymore. He leaves every sentence unfinished and complains about hot flashes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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