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6 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

So that makes passing on the best young QB of the modern era OK?

 

No.  But you know what's worse, much worse, obsessing over something that can't be changed.  How long are some Bills fans going to cry into their beers over not drafting Mahomes?  It's been freaking THREE YEARS.  And the Bills weren't the only team to pass on Mahomes. 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Agree with building up the OL.  My fear is that Ford was a big whiff.

Gotta give him time.  I think we’re all afraid he won’t pan out - especially since we could have snagged Metcalf with that pick.  

 

Look what happened with Lawson.  Took a few years, but now we’re all hoping they find a way to keep him here.

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1 minute ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Wow! didn’t realize there were a million teams ahead of KC in that draft .... must really strike a nerve to be so butthurt when the topic is raised

 

Repeatedly. Thousands of times a year. For three years.

 

Yeah, wonder why anyone would be annoyed by that.

 

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Just now, Julio Hopkins said:

 

Beane proceeds to draft Allen over Jackson

 

Give me a break dude. Harbaugh did a brilliant job building the team around Jackson, but even his own GM passed on Jackson to trade down and draft Hayden Hurst. 

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8 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

So that makes passing on the best young QB of the modern era OK?

so much 20-20 hindsiht here as well as with the Cody Ford criticism it may be true now but if you werent hammering the table THEN then I think it qualifies as whining and its tired

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4 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Wow! didn’t realize there were a million teams ahead of KC in that draft .... must really strike a nerve to be so butthurt when the topic is raised

You really think that Mahomes would be playing like this in Buffalo?

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Just now, Mark Vader said:

Packers D is very underrated, don't brush them off so quickly.

 

Interestingly enough, their strength is in the pass game and weaker agaisnt the run, which matches the Chiefs pretty well. But I think the Niners are more well-rounded and will win that game.

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3 minutes ago, Julio Hopkins said:

 

Beane proceeds to draft Allen over Jackson

 

Allen was a better pick for the Bills then Jackson would have been.  And IMO 5 years from now the this will be considered conventional knowledge.  The Bills were not going to hire Roman at OC and were not going to build an offense to fit Jackson's strengths. 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

No.  But you know what's worse, much worse, obsessing over something that can't be changed.  How long are some Bills fans going to cry into their beers over not drafting Mahomes?  It's been freaking THREE YEARS.  And the Bills weren't the only team to pass on Mahomes. 

 

 

No, but we were the one's who gave up the pick for them to get him.  The conversation went something like this.

 

Reid:  Hey, I want to give up future assets to trade up for this raw QB prospect even though we already have an established quarterback and are expected to compete for the Superbowl.

Bills:  Sounds great.

 

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2 minutes ago, Elite Poster said:

 

The same people that bitched about TJ Graham over Wilson, Troupe over Gronk, Watkins over Mack etc, won't let ANYONE mention a blunder made by THIS organization. 

 

McBeane have done well, but let's cut the oversensitive crap. 

And what about the 26 teams that passed on an all pro CB before the Bills had the smarts to take him? Sure, CB isn't as sexy as QB but the point is every year great players are passed on by multiple teams.

 

Sometimes we get them, sometimes we pass on them too. If you constantly spend your time bitching about the ones we missed that's all you'll ever think about.

 

And anyway, so much more goes into the success of a player than his talent, like his situation, supporting cast, coach, the way he's handled early on. There are busts out there who would be great if they had landed in other places, and greats who would have been average in a different set of circumstances.

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1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

No, but we were the one's who gave up the pick for them to get him.  The conversation went something like this.

 

Reid:  Hey, I want to give up future assets to trade up for this raw QB prospect even though we already have an established quarterback and are expected to compete for the Superbowl.

Bills:  Sounds great.

 


What's worse? Taking that deal or trading up to draft Trubisky?

 

The obsession and repetitive nature of it is what's most annoying.

 

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2 minutes ago, PastaJoe said:

But it was a clear need for the Bills.

With a new coach, on the job for a handful of months, a lame duck GM in place, and not knowing what you had as a team, the Bills were in no position to draft a QB early in that draft.  Once Beane was in place and they saw the team they had, they knew what they needed in a QB.  The timing was just not right for Mahomes. 

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1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

No, but we were the one's who gave up the pick for them to get him.  The conversation went something like this.

 

Reid:  Hey, I want to give up future assets to trade up for this raw QB prospect even though we already have an established quarterback and are expected to compete for the Superbowl.

Bills:  Sounds great.

 


your right.

mahomes, Chiefs and Bills will always be linked in the narrative.

 

you won’t be able to tell Mahomes story (if it becomes all time great) without mentioning the Buffalo Bills trading pick.

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Just now, Mark Vader said:

You really think that Mahomes would be playing like this in Buffalo?

 

People seem to forget that Allen was drafted one later than Mahomes and the Bills had to replace NINE of the offensive starters on this team during the timeframe.

 

While Mahomes was grandfathered into Kelce, Hill, Hunt (before his crap) and Reid calling plays.

 

While Allen was grandfathered into an aging McCoy.

 

How these people seem to forget these FACTS are mind boggling to me.

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2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

Allen was a better pick for the Bills then Jackson would have been.  And IMO 5 years from now the this will be considered conventional knowledge.  The Bills were not going to hire Roman at OC and were not going to build an offense to fit Jackson's strengths. 

 

 

 

 

This isn't putting the Bills' coaching staff in a positive light.  If McDermott can't hire an OC who can build around Mahomes or Jackson, then he isn't a good head coach.  

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