Reed83HOF Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I watched him play as well. He fills three skills sets The Bills are currently filling with 3 individual players. their current Mock has us with Tee Higgins. https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/reid-s-2020-nfl-mock-draft-4.0 Look at how Beane drafts in RD 1 - athletic talent is off the charts and super high ceilings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 got raekwon davis, kenny willekes, and chubb hubbard. people would be pissed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 22 K'Lavon Chaisson, EDGE LSU 54 Justin Jefferson, WR LSU 86 Najee Harris, RB Alabama 118 Jordan Elliott, IDL Missouri 137 Jake Hanson, IOL Oregon 149 Joe Bachie Jr., LB Michigan State 168 Jacob Breeland, TE Oregon 181 Eric Stokes, CB Georgia 191 Saahdiq Charles, OT LSU Edited January 6, 2020 by ngbills 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: Miss out on the first batch of wr’s and beef up the defense again ? 22. Buffalo Bills (10-6) K’Lavon Chaisson, EDGE/OLB, LSU Chaisson (6-4, 250 pounds) has a great name for an elite, active defender who chases after quarterbacks and running backs alike. He has 6.5 sacks during LSU’s run to the CFP national championship game, and like several teammates, his draft stock has shot up throughout the season. He is a bit of a hybrid player who can work well in the Bills' 4-3 to replace retiring Lorenzo Alexander on the weak side. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nfl/news/nfl-mock-draft-2020-tua-tagovailoa-dolphins-eagles-saints-patriots/bn5x1suc7s971o7qk15lcnl4q Oh please no more linemen, offense or defense. SKILL PLAYERS PLZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Right in Shenault Jr’s range and the good thing about him he has the skill set that we are currently carrying 3 WRs to do. he is Physical (Duke Williams) He has speed projected 4.38 40 (Foster) And Versatile with the Jet sweeps, out of backfield etc (McKenzie) on Draft Pick gives you the skill set we currently have 3 WRs doing. https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/laviska-shenault-jr/NLQE1jFVo5 Great assessment and that's why I want us to draft him at 22.....a 3 in 1 player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: Miss out on the first batch of wr’s and beef up the defense again ? 22. Buffalo Bills (10-6) K’Lavon Chaisson, EDGE/OLB, LSU Chaisson (6-4, 250 pounds) has a great name for an elite, active defender who chases after quarterbacks and running backs alike. He has 6.5 sacks during LSU’s run to the CFP national championship game, and like several teammates, his draft stock has shot up throughout the season. He is a bit of a hybrid player who can work well in the Bills' 4-3 to replace retiring Lorenzo Alexander on the weak side. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nfl/news/nfl-mock-draft-2020-tua-tagovailoa-dolphins-eagles-saints-patriots/bn5x1suc7s971o7qk15lcnl4q Get this guy and go after Amari Cooper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: Great assessment and that's why I want us to draft him at 22.....a 3 in 1 player. Yep he is my current want in the draft. I don't s it changing much and we are right in his value range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, H2o said: I've seen him play, and he may very well turn out to be a decent NFL WR, but I don't get the 1st round hype with him. Well... Here we go again I guess... I told everyone with DK last year and I'm telling everyone now...Don't get me wrong...Different kind of player...But Laviska is an absolute beast...To me he's like a faster version of JuJu...He ran Colorado's wildcat when they called it...He has that kind of versatility...He is quick twitch explosive but he can play with power too...He's the opposite of a primadonna on the football field...He's an aggressive player...He's a willing blocker, and he's going to be real good at it in time...And he's a good kid... The only reason he may...may be available at #22 is the turf toe, labrum, and the fact that he's going to need route refining...Looks to me like he's going to be at least a 4.4 40 guy...But he could run faster when a track coach gets a hold of him...As an athlete and a projected NFL football player that kid is a top 10 pick because the Draft is at least half about projection...And I'm gonna end it right there...? Well...One more thing...I really like Tee Higgins too so...I'm fine with either...I just think Laviska brings more versatility... Edited January 6, 2020 by KOKBILLS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Right in Shenault Jr’s range and the good thing about him he has the skill set that we are currently carrying 3 WRs to do. he is Physical (Duke Williams) He has speed projected 4.38 40 (Foster) And Versatile with the Jet sweeps, out of backfield etc (McKenzie) on Draft Pick gives you the skill set we currently have 3 WRs doing. https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/laviska-shenault-jr/NLQE1jFVo5 I like Shenault, but there's no chance he's a 4.38 guy. I would expect him to come in a little slower than a 4.50. If he beats a 4.50, he's done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yep he is my current want in the draft. I don't s it changing much and we are right in his value range Mine as well. RAC is off-the-charts good. Daboll seems to want chain-movers, not deep threats or giants. He's perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Look at how Beane drafts in RD 1 - athletic talent is off the charts and super high ceilings I thought that too when I watched him - a Beane prototype Edited January 6, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, DCOrange said: I like Shenault, but there's no chance he's a 4.38 guy. I would expect him to come in a little slower than a 4.50. If he beats a 4.50, he's done well. He projects at a 4.38. He is going to be sub 4.5 at the combine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: He projects at a 4.38. He is going to be sub 4.5 at the combine The Athletic has him at a 4.55. ESPN has him at a 4.59. WalterFootball has him at a 4.52. He's not an elite speed guy at all. Nobody views him that way. Feel free to tag me if he actually is in the 4.3's. I think people tend to think WRs are faster than they really are and he's no different. Edited January 6, 2020 by DCOrange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I thought that too when I watched him - a Beane protege He should be able to run under any long ball Josh could (over) throw Off the top of my head traits we should be looking for are 1.) large catch radius 2.) strong ability to adjust to the ball 3.) soft hands 4.) RAC/YAC 5.) Separation bonus contested catches 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 My Only one I will do today.. 22 Laviska Shenault Jr. , WR Colorado 54 A.J. Terrell , CB Clemson 86 Travis Etienne , RB Clemson 118 Khalid Kareem , EDGE Notre Dame 137 Albert Okwuegbunam , TE Missouri 149 Raequan Williams , IDL Michigan State 168 Jordyn Brooks , LB Texas Tech 181 Ezra Cleveland , OT Boise State 191 Chase Claypool , WR Notre Dame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yep he is my current want in the draft. I don't s it changing much and we are right in his value range Look at how we've argued incessantly over players like Foster, Duke, McKenzie & Robert's. What is their role? What are they best at? Shenault will probably have a very good combine and could move up. He's a 3 in 1 player who hopefully falls to us. If he's not there then get the best edge rusher on the board and maybe Jefferson is there at 54? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DCOrange said: The Athletic has him at a 4.55. ESPN has him at a 4.59. WalterFootball has him at a 4.52. He's not an elite speed guy at all. Nobody views him that way. If that doesn't do it for you, maybe this will: One NFL scout tells Bleacher Report that Shenault—at 6'2", 225 pounds with a sub-4.4 40—will go in the first five picks of next year's draft. Again he will b sub 4.5 com combine https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2852683-meet-the-colorado-wr-who-has-the-nfl-drooling-hes-julio-jones-only-bigger Just now, LABILLBACKER said: Look at how we've argued incessantly over players like Foster, Duke, McKenzie & Robert's. What is their role? What are they best at? Shenault will probably have a very good combine and could move up. He's a 3 in 1 player who hopefully falls to us. If he's not there then get the best edge rusher on the board and maybe Jefferson is there at 54? I am fin with an edge if Jerry Jeudy CeeDee Lamb Henry Ruggs III Laviska Shenault Jr. Tee Higgins Are all off the board Edited January 6, 2020 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: I wouldn't hate this...BUT: Did anyone come away this year thinking JuJu is a true #1 WR? Lets not forget he looked great when AB was drawing double coverage every game, but as a #1 he didn't prove he could hang. I know there were challenges between the injury and QB situation, but at this point he is still unproven as a legit #1 because of that and when he wasn't hurt he didnt really have a lot of success. And if Pitt was willing to trade him after losing AB, wouldn't that further raise question marks about their belief in him as a #1 WR? Why would they trade him? Theyre like at the cap and he's cheap. Makes no sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, DCOrange said: The Athletic has him at a 4.55. ESPN has him at a 4.59. WalterFootball has him at a 4.52. He's not an elite speed guy at all. Nobody views him that way. Feel free to tag me if he actually is in the 4.3's. I think people tend to think WRs are faster than they really are and he's no different. You do know all those times are what he ran coming out of HS right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I am fin with an edge if Jerry Jeudy CeeDee Lamb Henry Ruggs III Laviska Shenault Jr. Tee Higgins Are all off the board I think we will move up before we let all 5 get off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: If that doesn't do it for you, maybe this will: One NFL scout tells Bleacher Report that Shenault—at 6'2", 225 pounds with a sub-4.4 40—will go in the first five picks of next year's draft. Again he will b sub 4.5 com combine https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2852683-meet-the-colorado-wr-who-has-the-nfl-drooling-hes-julio-jones-only-bigger I am fin with an edge if Jerry Jeudy CeeDee Lamb Henry Ruggs III Laviska Shenault Jr. Tee Higgins Are all off the board I like Jefferson a lot - even before he dismantled Oklahoma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, dneveu said: Why would they trade him? Theyre like at the cap and he's cheap. Makes no sense. Yeah, I would be shocked if they did. Only reason would be to go into rebuild mode and try and get more assets to rebuild. But there is no reason for that team to do that. They are a pretty good roster outside the QB issues. Big Ben probably coming back for another run too, so I dont see him being traded. I was just responding to someones tweet they shared suggesting they trade JuJu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, dneveu said: I like Jefferson a lot - even before he dismantled Oklahoma. Jefferson Reagor Aiyuk Hamler Are the next teir of WRs IMO all early 2nd rounders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Draft Tristan Wirfs and move Ford inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Yeah, I would be shocked if they did. Only reason would be to go into rebuild mode and try and get more assets to rebuild. But there is no reason for that team to do that. They are a pretty good roster outside the QB issues. Big Ben probably coming back for another run too, so I dont see him being traded. I was just responding to someones tweet they shared suggesting they trade JuJu. Yeah - the 1 year of contract control, the nature of it being a WR heavy draft, etc. Means its harder to confidently offer a 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Jefferson Reagor Aiyuk Hamler Are the next teir of WRs IMO all early 2nd rounders how far is the dropoff in talent between the first group and this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, schoolhouserock said: Draft Tristan Wirfs and move Ford inside. I would rather Sign a RT. I don't really want more rookies learning on the fly on the OL. Pay Conklin and Kick Ford Inside 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL-Bills Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 My most recent TDN Mock turned out to be the best one I've done yet, IMO. Got exactly who I wanted with each pick. Let me know what you think! 22 Yetur Gross-Matos , EDGE Penn State 54 Justin Jefferson , WR LSU 86 Cameron Dantzler , CB Mississippi State 118 Najee Harris , RB Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) Just now, Reed83HOF said: how far is the dropoff in talent between the first group and this? I would say a bit, but I don't think it is a huge drop. I think there is a good shot that all 9 and maybe even a 10th go in the First Round I do also think the Edge Rushers are getting bumped up by the lack of depth past AJ Epenesa Edited January 6, 2020 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Could see a move u for an elite talent at WR. The draft will be difficult to project without knowing what transpires in free agency. The Bills have the cap set up to make some bold moves. Offense needs to be the focal point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, MAJBobby said: Jefferson Reagor Aiyuk Hamler Are the next teir of WRs IMO all early 2nd rounders Yeah i feel ya there. I liked that he lines up all over the place, has insanely good hands, good size, makes contested catches, and some twitch to his route running that i think will translate to the NFL. Question will be how he runs at the combine. If he's in the 4.5 range i think he'll get a 1st round grade. Tremendous production, mixed with a lot of highlights in a lot of big games. 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I would say a bit, but I don't think it is a huge drop. I think there is a good shot that all 9 and maybe even a 10th go in the First Round I do also think the Edge Rushers are getting bumped up by the lack of depth past AJ Epenesa As much as teams say they go BPA - there will be holes that need filling in Olines, D-lines, and cornerback. Talent will slip into the 2nd round, always happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: If that doesn't do it for you, maybe this will: One NFL scout tells Bleacher Report that Shenault—at 6'2", 225 pounds with a sub-4.4 40—will go in the first five picks of next year's draft. Again he will b sub 4.5 com combine https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2852683-meet-the-colorado-wr-who-has-the-nfl-drooling-hes-julio-jones-only-bigger I am fin with an edge if Jerry Jeudy CeeDee Lamb Henry Ruggs III Laviska Shenault Jr. Tee Higgins Are all off the board I can't see us trading up in the 1st for any of these 5 + Reagor. If they fall, Shenault would be the pick or consider Tee Higgins. Or get your edge rusher at 22 and move up in the 2nd for Justin Jefferson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Mine as well. RAC is off-the-charts good. Daboll seems to want chain-movers, not deep threats or giants. He's perfect. Another reason why he is my Favorite guy. With him on the roster you would not have to worry about what you are losing with Deactivating Foster, McKenzie or Williams. He is all three wrapped into one. The only issue because of how he was used in Colorado his Route Tree is sloppy and limited, but that can be taught. Just now, LABILLBACKER said: I can't see us trading up in the 1st for any of these 5 + Reagor. If they fall, Shenault would be the pick or consider Tee Higgins. Or get your edge rusher at 22 and move up in the 2nd for Justin Jefferson. I think the edges at that point will be overvalued. If on of the top 5 WRs are gone slide back about 6 spots get another pick and move into the correct range for the DEs and next group of WRs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I really hate honing in on one player....but Shenault is my guy or bust right now....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I would say a bit, but I don't think it is a huge drop. I think there is a good shot that all 9 and maybe even a 10th go in the First Round I do also think the Edge Rushers are getting bumped up by the lack of depth past AJ Epenesa I don't know if I see that many WRs go in round 1, other positions will get pushed up by teams looking to plug holes they either didn't have funds for or whiffed on in FA. What you mention about Edge is why I am even more high on Yannick now - it just makes sense and he is 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, Reed83HOF said: I don't know if I see that many WRs go in round 1, other positions will get pushed up by teams looking to plug holes they either didn't have funds for or whiffed on in FA. What you mention about Edge is why I am even more high on Yannick now - it just makes sense and he is 24. I do hate this edge class really except for Chase Young and Epenesa The others would not be in the first round in the recent better classes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I can't see us trading up in the 1st for any of these 5 + Reagor. If they fall, Shenault would be the pick or consider Tee Higgins. Or get your edge rusher at 22 and move up in the 2nd for Justin Jefferson. I can see us moving up for a WR, I just don't see us moving for an Edge. With Shaq leaving in FA and Murphy not playing well - I think that gets solved in FA or at least we take a strong shot at it. Beane just can't leave that spot open until the draft. To move up for WR, would you give up this years #22, our 3rd and next year's 1? KC gave up #27, #91 and the following year's first for #10 I would that would leave us #10, 1-2nd, 1- 4th, 2-5ths and 3-6ths and I bet we can move back into the 3rd and draft in rounds 1 - 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: Oh please no more linemen, offense or defense. SKILL PLAYERS PLZ I kind of like the Practice of adding free agency interior linemen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 BPA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Bangarang said: I’ll take one Laviska Shenault please Him or Higgins. Those are my 2 and I'm sticking with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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