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1 minute ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Let’s be honest though. The Ravens don’t utilize the position effectively. This whole debate existed when Roman was calling plays with Watkins and Woods. 


I don’t think that getting the ball to recievers on the outside of the field is what Lamar does well.  I noticed this last week too.  
 

He throws passes to the middle of the field really well and has since college.  That’s why the TE’s are so important in this offense as PSE catchers

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Just now, jrober38 said:

 

Agreed.

 

Brown and Snead do next to nothing for me. Past that they have absolutely nothing. 

 

They're loaded at tight end, but I think they could use a major upgrade at WR. 

The Ravens have been trying to rehab their WR group for as long as I can remember. Drafted Breshaud perriman in the 1st (bust), marquise brown in the 1st, signed Crabtree in FA (gone), Jeremy Maclin (FA bust), mike Wallace etc etc 

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Just now, SCBills said:

Lamar Jackson is a beast right now but why would any top WR ever want to go there?

 

They run a lot.  
 

They don’t go over the top.  
 

They rarely throw to the sideline.  
 

All your routes are hard hitting slot routes/crossers in the middle of the field. 

 

Well, Marquise Brown just took some punishment for those catches.

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2 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Let’s be honest though. The Ravens don’t utilize the position effectively. This whole debate existed when Roman was calling plays with Watkins and Woods. 

 

I think that was an EJ Manuel/Tyrod Taylor problem.

 

With Kyle Orton under centre, Watkins was actually super productive under Greg Roman. 

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1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Lamar Jackson is a beast right now but why would any top WR ever want to go there?

 

They run a lot.  
 

They don’t go over the top.  
 

They rarely throw to the sideline.  
 

All your routes are hard hitting slot routes/crossers in the middle of the field. 

Depends on the receiver. Someone like AJ Green would probably be happy to go there and have a shot at playoffs or more. Mentor the young guys. 

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Just now, Phil The Thrill said:


I don’t think that getting the ball to recievers on the outside of the field is what Lamar does well.  I noticed this last week too.  
 

He throws passes to the middle of the field really well and has since college.  That’s why the TE’s are so important in this offense as PSE catchers

 

IIRC I think you were the one who looked at the passing chart I posted for Lamar last week and pointed out how effectively the Bills D took the middle of the field away from him?

 

I can’t find a passing chart that’s cumulative but I think you’re right.  

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

The Ravens have been trying to rehab their WR group for as long as I can remember. Drafted Breshaud perriman in the 1st (bust), marquise brown in the 1st, signed Crabtree in FA (gone), Jeremy Maclin (FA bust), mike Wallace etc etc 

 

 

Signed and let Smoke go.  

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1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Lamar Jackson is a beast right now but why would any top WR ever want to go there?

 

They run a lot.  
 

They don’t go over the top.  
 

They rarely throw to the sideline.  
 

All your routes are hard hitting slot routes/crossers in the middle of the field. 


That was a knock on him coming out of college.  They don’t have throw to the sideline because he doesn’t hit those passes very well.  

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4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

By their scheme, Lamar is asked to make only 1 read from the pocket.  That's what it looks like to me.  

 

Count the number of times a game its more than 1.

 

Doesn't this matter in your QBs development?

To be fair I haven't watched every single Ravens game but judging by the ones I have and what I know about Roman I would guess that this is generally the case.

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4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Lamar Jackson is a beast right now but why would any top WR ever want to go there?

 

They run a lot.  
 

They don’t go over the top.  
 

They rarely throw to the sideline.  
 

All your routes are hard hitting slot routes/crossers in the middle of the field. 
 

You have to compete with tight ends for targets.
 

You are asked to block alllll the time.
 

 

 

I agree, a veteran receiver probably wouldn't want to go there, but I think we'll all underestimate how much NFL players would want to go play with the reigning MVP in an offense that scores as many points as they do.

 

The guys they'd attract would be the type of high character guys that you'd want your team to go after. 

 

High maintenance divas wouldn't want anything to do with it, but I don't think those are the type of guys who help you win games anyways. 

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Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

IIRC I think you were the one who looked at the passing chart I posted for Lamar last week and pointed out how effectively the Bills D took the middle of the field away from him?

 

I can’t find a passing chart that’s cumulative but I think you’re right.  


That’s why I was impressed with the Bills defense to take out the running game.  And yes, despite what some analysts said - the Bills did limit Lamar all around.
 

If you take away the blown coverage on the 61 yard touchdown and the shorted field where they started at the 21 yard line.  They held the Ravens to only one sustained TD drive which was helped out by a bad punt at the 49 yard line.  
 

If you can somehow bottle up the Baltimore ground game (big “if) , I don’t think he’s able to win the game with his arm.  We might see this play out in a few weeks

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19 minutes ago, Dopey said:

Then they would play 3 days later. Unless they get another bye. If the nfl went to a longer season with 2 bye weeks, maybe.

 

You have a mistake in your logic

 

example below:

 

11-3 - play Sunday Game

 

11-10 - Bye week

 

11-14 - play Thursday night game (10 day rest)

 

11-17 - off due to playing Thursday

 

11-24 - play on next Sunday (9 days rest)

 

It extends the bye week, and catches no team on a short week.

 

Teams playing on Thursday should be coming off of a bye week.

 

4 teams are off on any bye week, shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

Make it 2 AFC teams and 2 NFC teams in the divisions playing against each other.

 

Lets say the AFC East plays NFC East

Then 2 teams from AFC East and 2 teams from NFC East share the bye week.

one pairing plays on Thursday, the other play oon the 11-17 weekend above having a full bye week

both share the same time off, and can ramp back up vs the league with extra rest

 

win-win

 

This is simple analytics that catches no team short handed

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Roman wasn’t here with Orton. That was marrone/Lil Nate

 

Whoops.

 

For some reason I thought they were both here in 2015. 

 

Sammy still had a great season. 60 catches for over 1,000 yards in 13 games.

 

Somehow we were 12th in offensive scoring.

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3 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:


I don’t think that getting the ball to recievers on the outside of the field is what Lamar does well.  I noticed this last week too.  
 

He throws passes to the middle of the field really well and has since college.  That’s why the TE’s are so important in this offense as PSE catchers

It might be, but I don’t recall the outside WRs doing much with Roman here until Watkins called out Tyrod and he started throwing up 50/50 balls. ICBW though. 

3 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

I think that was an EJ Manuel/Tyrod Taylor problem.

 

With Kyle Orton under centre, Watkins was actually super productive under Greg Roman. 

That was The MORON with Hackett. Orton retired before the Rex/Roman offense. 

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2 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:


That’s why I was impressed with the Bills defense to take out the running game.  And yes, despite what some analysts said - the Bills did limit Lamar all around.
 

If you take away the blown coverage on the 61 yard touchdown and the shorted field where they started at the 21 yard line.  They held the Ravens to only one sustained TD drive which was helped out by a bad punt at the 49 yard line.  
 

If you can somehow bottle up the Baltimore ground game (big “if) , I don’t think he’s able to win the game with his arm.  We might see this play out in a few weeks


That blown coverage long TD took away all the respect they could’ve earned with that defensive effort.  
 

It gave Lamar stats, a third TD and a highlight. 

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1 minute ago, SCBills said:


That blown coverage long TD took away all the respect they could’ve earned with that defensive effort.  
 

It gave Lamar stats, a third TD and a highlight. 

 

Only to boxscore scouts. People who know football know that blown coverages happen. They also know that the bills took care of business against the Ravens better than any other team has. 

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2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Harbaugh is brilliant.  He knows he has this game in the bank (he has the FG to go up 17) so he has Jackson throw back to back deep passes down the middle.  It's all about putting these plays on tape.  The Ravens don't want folks putting their safeties in the box. 

There aren’t many teams that can pull it off for most of the game. We did. Pats did. Pit did. SF did. That really it. Gonna be fun to see them duplicate this against teams a second time 

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Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Well, he doesn’t look as sharp or accurate with pressure in his face, now does he?

As for physically, he has taken several shots now

 

But I had it on good authority that he was just taking apart the Ravens defense and they were doing exactly what they did to Allen but Darnold just said: "NO I will beat you because I am far far superior to Josh Allen!" And he took control, played a game that goes right to his hall of fame montage, and rode off into the sunset with his mono laden harem. 

 

 

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